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post #2041 of 11199
10/17/08 at 12:15pm
Does the title of this thread mean these two units (Denon AVR 1909/789 ) are the same)
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post #2042 of 11199
10/17/08 at 12:29pm
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Originally Posted by wallstreet123456 View Post

Does the title of this thread mean these two units (Denon AVR 1909/789 ) are the same)

Again, please read the start of the thread!
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post #2043 of 11199
10/17/08 at 1:29pm
Hey SoundofMind it is easy to say yes. But wallstreet123456 really should read the first post Just trying to be funny
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post #2044 of 11199
10/17/08 at 4:15pm
Hi,

Does anyone know how or if it is possible to keep the sound on when you turn off the TV? I have a Tivo connected to the receiver via HDMI and the receiver output is connected to my TV via HDMI. The speakers are connected to the receiver.

I like to listen to cable music channels with the TV turned off. However, if I turn the power on the TV off, the receiver stays on but doesn't send any sound to the speakers.

Thanks in advance for any help,

Brett
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post #2045 of 11199
10/17/08 at 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by bchangus View Post

Hi,

Does anyone know how or if it is possible to keep the sound on when you turn off the TV? I have a Tivo connected to the receiver via HDMI and the receiver output is connected to my TV via HDMI. The speakers are connected to the receiver.

I like to listen to cable music channels with the TV turned off. However, if I turn the power on the TV off, the receiver stays on but doesn't send any sound to the speakers.

Thanks in advance for any help,

Brett

Are you sure it's not the Tivo that's at fault? I also like to listen to XM Radio music channels on DirecTV with the TV turned off. When I do so, my H21 HD receiver continues to supply audio over HDMI to the receiver which in turn distributes it to my 7.1 speaker setup. So, it's not the 789 that is looking to maintain a handshake with the TV.

Dana
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post #2046 of 11199
10/17/08 at 4:34pm
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Originally Posted by drbonbi View Post

Are you sure it's not the Tivo that's at fault? I also like to listen to XM Radio music channels on DirecTV with the TV turned off. When I do so, my H21 HD receiver continues to supply audio over HDMI to the receiver which in turn distributes it to my 7.1 speaker setup. So, it's not the 789 that is looking to maintain a handshake with the TV.

Dana

Hi Dana,

The same thing (no sound) happens with my PS3, also connected via HDMI, so I don't think that it's the Tivo... Also, it used to work fine with my old receiver, although that wasn't HDMI based.

Thanks,
Brett
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post #2047 of 11199
10/17/08 at 5:08pm
My system:
Fast computer with blue ray burner and HDMI out connected to Dennon 1909 HDMI in. The HDMI out connects to my HDCP compliant BENQ projector.
In this configuration, I can not play Blue Ray Movies on my computer's player and watch on the BENQ. Message: Problem with HDCP
If I take the Dennon out of the HDMI loop, meaning connecting my computer HDMI direct to the BENQ HDMI in, then all works great.

I also tried without the Dennon turned on to no success.

This means, that the Dennon 1909 is not HDCP compatible?????????!!!!!!!!!

OR?? Any other users have same problems??

Thanks, Harold
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post #2048 of 11199
10/17/08 at 5:58pm
Probably an easy question for many of you to answer, when my Denon 1909 is displaying the blue HD Audio icon, does that mean it is receiving a decoded HD signal from my BR player or it is decoding a bitstreamed signal into HD audio? Or could it be either? Just want to clarify in my own mind...
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post #2049 of 11199
10/17/08 at 6:23pm
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Originally Posted by HBRAND View Post

My system:
Fast computer with blue ray burner and HDMI out connected to Dennon 1909 HDMI in. The HDMI out connects to my HDCP compliant BENQ projector.
In this configuration, I can not play Blue Ray Movies on my computer's player and watch on the BENQ. Message: Problem with HDCP
If I take the Dennon out of the HDMI loop, meaning connecting my computer HDMI direct to the BENQ HDMI in, then all works great.

I also tried without the Dennon turned on to no success.

This means, that the Dennon 1909 is not HDCP compatible?????????!!!!!!!!!

OR?? Any other users have same problems??

Thanks, Harold

Sometimes this HDCP issues can be avoided by simply changing the order in which your components are powered on.
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post #2050 of 11199
10/17/08 at 6:26pm
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Originally Posted by slogun View Post

Probably an easy question for many of you to answer, when my Denon 1909 is displaying the blue HD Audio icon, does that mean it is receiving a decoded HD signal from my BR player or it is decoding a bitstreamed signal into HD audio? Or could it be either? Just want to clarify in my own mind...

In my setup this would mean my BR player is sending raw HD audio stream to my 789. My 789 I assume then identifes the audio stream coming to it as HD audio does its thing for my speakers.
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post #2051 of 11199
10/17/08 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by drbonbi View Post

Are you sure it's not the Tivo that's at fault? I also like to listen to XM Radio music channels on DirecTV with the TV turned off. When I do so, my H21 HD receiver continues to supply audio over HDMI to the receiver which in turn distributes it to my 7.1 speaker setup. So, it's not the 789 that is looking to maintain a handshake with the TV.

Dana

I remember from last year that you have a Panasonic AVR, what happened to it ?
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post #2052 of 11199
10/17/08 at 7:02pm
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Hi Dana,

The same thing (no sound) happens with my PS3, also connected via HDMI, so I don't think that it's the Tivo... Also, it used to work fine with my old receiver, although that wasn't HDMI based.

Thanks,
Brett

Do you by chance have HDMI control set to "on"? I wonder if that could cause the issue...I'm kind of grasping at straws here, but it seems like that could cause erratic behavior.
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post #2053 of 11199
10/17/08 at 10:22pm
I want the receiver to default to HDP when I turn it on. Unfortunately it is always set to TV/CBL and I have to manually change it to HDP after power up.

How can I change this to be HDP automagically every time I press the power button?
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post #2054 of 11199
10/17/08 at 10:56pm
When I play the same source in Zone 2 that's playing in Zone 1, the sound in Zone 2 is delayed by a few seconds.

In this example I have my directv satellite tuned to XM radio (channel 852) and I turned Zone 2 on and set it to tv/cbl.

When I first set the system up I'm just about positive I listened to the same source in both Zone 1 and 2 and there was no delay.

I checked the audio delay settings option and it was set to Input source TV/CBL, 0ms, OSD ON/OFF.

What do I need to correct to stop the delay?
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post #2055 of 11199
10/18/08 at 3:27am
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Originally Posted by bagakay View Post

I remember from last year that you have a Panasonic AVR, what happened to it ?

WOW! What a memory! I gave my Panny XR700 to my son.

Dana
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post #2056 of 11199
10/18/08 at 3:56am
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Originally Posted by bchangus View Post

Hi Dana,

The same thing (no sound) happens with my PS3, also connected via HDMI, so I don't think that it's the Tivo... Also, it used to work fine with my old receiver, although that wasn't HDMI based.

Thanks,
Brett

My suspicion is that both of them are looking to maintain the HDMI video connection with the TV because of HDCP.
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HDCP's stated purpose is to protect high definition content during transmission from a source device to a display device. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP

Since that behavior (no audio without TV being on) does not exist with the D* H21 HD receiver, we have eliminated the 789 as the culprit. It's just passing through whatever HDMI signal the source provides, picking up the audio in the process.

Dana
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post #2057 of 11199
10/18/08 at 5:34am
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Originally Posted by Youngster View Post

I want the receiver to default to HDP when I turn it on. Unfortunately it is always set to TV/CBL and I have to manually change it to HDP after power up.

How can I change this to be HDP automagically every time I press the power button?

Hey, I like that "automagically" typo-how about using one of your 3 quick select buttons?
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post #2058 of 11199
10/18/08 at 5:43am
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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

Hey, I like that "automagically" typo-how about using one of your 3 quick select buttons?

Yea, set it up the way you like it and then just hold down one of those quick select buttons for like 5 seconds or so, that sets it.
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post #2059 of 11199
10/18/08 at 7:08am
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Originally Posted by Youngster View Post

I want the receiver to default to HDP when I turn it on. Unfortunately it is always set to TV/CBL and I have to manually change it to HDP after power up.

How can I change this to be HDP automagically every time I press the power button?

In my setup, it always defaults to the last input used. And yes as some here pointed out, quick select is your friend.
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post #2060 of 11199
10/18/08 at 7:20am
Hey,
Any 1909 owners have experience with "Dynamic Volume", and does it work as they say it does, tv, as well as movies? I believe the 1909 will be my next receiver, was in contest with the Pio 1018, but the dynamic volume pretty much has me sold.
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post #2061 of 11199
10/18/08 at 7:25am
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Originally Posted by bklyn1028 View Post

Hey,
Any 1909 owners have experience with "Dynamic Volume", and does it work as they say it does, tv, as well as movies? I believe the 1909 will be my next receiver, was in contest with the Pio 1018, but the dynamic volume pretty much has me sold.

Yes, and that's pretty much what sold me on it.
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post #2062 of 11199
10/18/08 at 7:26am
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Originally Posted by bklyn1028 View Post

Hey,
Any 1909 owners have experience with "Dynamic Volume", and does it work as they say it does, tv, as well as movies? I believe the 1909 will be my next receiver, was in contest with the Pio 1018, but the dynamic volume pretty much has me sold.

It helps YES (my experience with 789-the same as 1909 internally) !
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post #2063 of 11199
10/18/08 at 7:33am
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Originally Posted by slogun View Post

Yes, and that's pretty much what sold me on it.

One more question if you don't mind, the 1909 doesn't have "burr-brown" which might as well tell me it doesn't have "a what's it, attached to a thing-a-ma-bob" now, if that is the same as taking a computer chip from a 2.4 GHZ, and going to a 3.0 GHZ, meaning your speed will be about 10th of a second faster, then it's probably not necessary. I won't be listening with a meter attached to it.....
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post #2064 of 11199
10/18/08 at 7:40am
Here is what they have on the 789/1909.

http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datashe.../ADAU1328.html
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post #2065 of 11199
10/18/08 at 7:54am
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Originally Posted by bklyn1028 View Post

One more question if you don't mind, the 1909 doesn't have "burr-brown" which might as well tell me it doesn't have "a what's it, attached to a thing-a-ma-bob" now, if that is the same as taking a computer chip from a 2.4 GHZ, and going to a 3.0 GHZ, meaning your speed will be about 10th of a second faster, then it's probably not necessary. I won't be listening with a meter attached to it.....

uhh, not sure what the question is, I don't even see a question mark?

It seems like you are asking whether the 1909 is a worthwhile upgrade for you?
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post #2066 of 11199
10/18/08 at 8:07am
Just want to double check does the 1909 still have the second remote?
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post #2067 of 11199
10/18/08 at 8:09am
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Originally Posted by bagakay View Post

In my setup, it always defaults to the last input used. And yes as some here pointed out, quick select is your friend.

So if there is no way to change the default input from TV/CBL to HDP, how can I atleast set the receiver to default to the last input used?
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post #2068 of 11199
10/18/08 at 8:09am
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Originally Posted by slogun View Post

uhh, not sure what the question is, I don't even see a question mark?

It seems like you are asking whether the 1909 is a worthwhile upgrade for you?

He is trying to compare the performance of the DACS in 789/1909 against brown-burr. Saying if brown-burr is better by that much only, then it does not matter (to him).
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post #2069 of 11199
10/18/08 at 8:11am
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Originally Posted by Youngster View Post

So if there is no way to change the default input from TV/CBL to HDP, how can I atleast set the receiver to default to the last input used?

I am not sure how because it is the default in my 789. I will check though.
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post #2070 of 11199
10/18/08 at 8:14am
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Originally Posted by BRAISKI View Post

Just want to double check does the 1909 still have the second remote?

Still? I would expect so, why would it not? It's a feature of this receiver, which is still quite new, btw.
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