*Official* Denon AVR 1909/789 Thread - Page 102

Probably but I have had problems with this provider. Why not patronize a AVS Forum sponsor such as monoprice.com? See their link above. I know their banana plugs work; I've used them. And their price is competitive.

See http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Dana

No way man, any blue cable loses signal from the blue end of the spectrum. That's why they look blue.

wolv, a quick AVS search on HDMI gets me to this thread where you can find much discussion-sounds like monoprice is the fav!
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1089846

Thanks!

Did you pull the trigger already? 6ave coupon code "Friday" I believe was a 6% off. You should use coupon code AFLAUD25 and get 25% off instead.

Umm, the FRIDAY code gave me 25% off.

great then, because I try that yesterday and it gave me about 6%

Do you know how long this coupon code will be good for?

Friday expires 12/01
AFLAUD25 expires 12/08

As long as you are under 5m (15ft) any old HDMI cable will be perfectly fine. At longer distances you have to make sure you get a quality (note that it doesn't have to be expensive) cable.

For banana plugs, these are a great bet:
http://www.speakerrepair.com/Merchan...e=safe_connect

they are a knock-off of the Monster ones, and they work great. I find the twist-on locking thing easier than the compression type, and they have the nice insulation built in. incredibly easy to assemble, and the wire stays tight in there. I swap gear all the time and I used to use some cheaper bananas from radioshack and the speaker wire would pull out and get loose if I was plugging/unplugging a lot.

To be clear, the 1909 does have three-way binding posts, correct? I actually prefer using bare wire and I rarely swap or move gear.

After months of looking and reading on here, I picked up the 1909 on Friday. The only other receiver I was really interested in was the Yamaha RX-V663 and was close to buying it, but I finally got a good deal on the 1909, which is hard to do here in Canada. Over the weekend I have been very pleased with it, but this being my first AVR I can't say I have figured out much yet. So I guess I still got alot more reading to do on here and in the manual because I haven't read much of the manual yet, then again most people seem to say it's pretty terrible.

I'll probably be back with questions soon if I can't find the answers through the search.

I'm not sure exactly what 3 way binding posts are, but I HIGHLY suggest using banana plugs with the 1909. The extra few minutes spent making banana plugs far outweighs the risk of stray wires touching and shorting things out. The cost is practically nothing if you buy from monoprice.

thanks. lousy at quizzes!
as I was reading your post...things are starting to click. that manual, i dunno. just doesn't sink in. just takes someone to explain it a tad different sometimes and it sinks in. thanks so much for your help.

Can others with a PS3 check to see if there's hiss? Go to the silent menu, set volume to around -10 dB or so, then enable and disable MultiEQ. Only when it's enabled do I get a very noticable hiss, and only on multi-channel PCM. I contacted Denon 2.5 weeks ago and they still don't have an answer, and I have to be on hold for 20-30 minutes every time I check in. Very frustrating.

I agree! If you look at the rear config of the AVR http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDeta...ater+Receiver# there isn't much room for anything other than banana plugs pushed straight in.

But, technically the terminals do provide for insertion of bare wire. It's probably no coincidence that immediately following mention of using bare speaker wires in the Owner's Manual , there is discussion of what happens when a bare wire touches the rear panel, screws, etc. The Protection Circuit kicks in, a red light flashes and the AVR goes to standby.

It seems to me we had a poster on this thread with this problem. The AVR shut down and he couldn't figure out why. A stray strand of wire was the culprit.

Dana

Okay. I have never had any issue with my Onkyo and bare wire, but perhaps I will get some bananas. Anyone know the difference between the open and closed ones on monoprice?

SETTINGS HELP?

so....people....are we in (semi-) agreement to these settings?! was having way too much bass using the Audyssey settings on my 789. Was using the Eq and Dynamic volume and thought my sub was gonna blow during a movie.

I'm a complete newbie. thanks for your help and patience. there's so much to learn! LFE or LFE Main...large/small....etc etc


Currently I use only Audyssey Dynaminc Eq and set to Flat. not using Audyssey EQ Volume.

SUB: LFE

FL: +3
C: +2
FR: +2
SR: +2
SBR: +3
SBL: +3
SL: +2
SW: +2

XOVER FREQ:
FRONT - Small 60hz (Boston Acoustic VR-1's)
CENTER - SMALL 80hz
SURROUND - SMALL 80hz
SBACK - SMALL 80hz
LFE - '120hz' (Boston Acoustic XB6)


I want to maintain a good balance between movie watching (with less explosive bass!) and music listening when I would just have the Mains on and the sub off......

these look right to you? did the auto set up and just did NOT seem right. Now through a few suggestions came up with the above settings.

LOOK CORRECT?

A quesion re. 1909 use. I have connected 1909 to a digital cable box using HDMI. At times I use the music channels on the cable box to listen to music, for which I would prefer that 1909 output in Stereo rather than Surround mode. When I tune to these channels, 1909 shows that the input is 2 channel stereo. Is there a setting that I can use so that 1909 switches the output to two channel stereo whenever the input to it is 2 channel stereo?
Basically I want the 1909 to automatically follow the input mode (Surround or Stereo) for audio output as I change channels for the same source (TV/CBL).
Thanks for your help.

honestly, Denon binding posts are crammed in so tightly that you should do the bananas as others recommend. it would be a giant PITA to try and get bare wire in there...

don't know about the monoprice bananas, but definitely consider the GLS plugs I linked to above, extremely easy to install.

If you left AUTO SURROUND on "on" in the setup menus (MANUAL SETUP > AUDIO SETUP) it should remember what your preference is for 2-channel listening.

I believe the problem for you is that, if the music channel is DD 2.0 and you put it on STEREO mode, it will "remember" that when you go to a cable channel with DD 2.0 as well and not go into Pro Logic mode for matrixed surround. You want it to do Pro Logic on cable channels that are 2.0, but then be in Stereo mode on 2.0 music channels, right?

All it knows is what type of input signal you're getting (DD 2.0, PCM 2.0, or DD 5.1) and memorizes your preference for that input type.

Is there anything special I need to do to connect my Wii to the 1909 and pass via HDMI to my TV (besides setting HDMI audio to TV on the 1909)?

I am using component video and analog audio and only getting video (no audio) on the TV (panny plasma).

TIA

HDMI cable will not pass audio to your TV from non-HDMI inputs, it's only an audio passthrough for HDMI > HDMI

1. Why did you reset some of your xovers lower than before? Do not reset them at less than the Audyssey settings.
your former post:
FRONT - LARGE 40hz
CENTER - SMALL 120hz
SURROUND - SMALL 120hz
SBACK - SMALL 150hz
LFE - 100hz

2. Try reseeting all to 120 & sback to 150 then take a listen and tell us how it sounds.
3. Why not listen to music with the sub on?

Gotcha.

Will it output digital audio in this scenario or is analog my only choice?

thought you said something about 80hz for them. misunderstood :/

as far as music with the sub....laziness turning it on and off all the time lol and live in a double block. (in-laws) gotta give them a break here and there!

keep the above settings the same then? set fronts to small though ?
and LFE not LFE+MAIN correct?

So the 1909 has a 2nd remote for Zone 2 operation....Would the signal be able to go through glass or a brick wall? My Zone 2 speakers are out on my patio. It would be nice to be able to adjust the volume from outside, but if I have to go inside and adjust the volume by hand the remote wouldn't do me any good, then the 789 would be a better value than the 1909 since they are $50 cheaper.

no, it's an IR remote. it can go through glass but you need line-of-sight.

for true work-through-walls capability, you would either need to wire in IR transmitter to the patio, or get some sort of RF/IR blaster setup.

Hello all,
I am a newbie or better yet a premie. I have been reading and enjoying this thread for sometime now and has helped me make my decision on purchasing the 1909.Thank you everyone!! It should be here anyday and is the first time in 20 years I'm replacing my old Denon.Wow has technology changed!
I am looking at the polk audio floor columns M70 for the front and was curious if anyone had any thoughts on this matchup and compatabilty. I have to purchase my speakers 2 at a time (budget issue) I will be using some old infinity SM50's that I just love from the early 90's and just had them reconed.
thanks,Jeff

That did the trick! I had thought that Auto Surround ON would this automatically, but after your suggestion and refering to the manual once again I realized that this does not automatcially select the output mode but rather remembers the last setting for the type of input mode.
Thanks for this and many other helpful posts on this batpig!

Hello everyone and thanks in advance for all your excellent responses. First I would like to say I am definitely a newbie! There, got that out of the way.

I just purchased a 1909 from JR last week after reading through all the threads on here. I have gone through the set-up phase and have run the Audyssey auto set-up three times so far. I did not have any problems at all while running it and had very little difficulty setting up my inputs. The problem I am having is that I am not getting enough bass. I am definitely not into a lot of bass. If anything, I turn it down. For some reason the bass through Dolby Digital and Dolby Pro II does not come through very good. I would say (coming from a really old HK) it is about 50% of what I had.

I have turned all Audyssey features off and on and looked all through the menus to find some sort of bass setting. The only real adjustments I have made is that I set the LFE to 120hz from 80hz and I have my LFE at +12db. I have the sub set at LFE+Main and my main speakers (full size polk towers) are set to large. I have only heard of people having problems with too much bass with this receiver but I am having the opposite problem. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. The sub is getting a signal it just sounds like it needs to be turned up some. My speakers are Front - Polk RTi1000/Center - Polk Rti??? set to small/ Rear - in-wall deftechs/SUB - DefTech Pro1000.

I have my DVR and DVD player hooked up through HDMI and a Wii hooked up through Component. All of these sources have the same lack of punch. I know it is something I have set up incorrectly. I noticed that someone said there was tone control but that is only good in analog sources (I think). I do not have all the options under Parameters when in Dolby Digital.

Anyway, thanks again for any suggestions!!!