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post #3631 of 11199
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

so, it was a slow week at work with my boss on vacation, and I decided to just go ahead and crank out a website so I could centralize my Denon knowledge in an accessible and useful form. I'd been thinking of doing it for a while but decided to get off my ass and get it done.

just in time to set up that new Denon you ordered for christmas!!

check it out at http://batpigworld.com/

Excellent job! A labor of love I'm sure. The timing of my avr-1909 purchase this week couldn't have been better.

Denon for dummies batpigworld link is a sticky thread if I've ever saw one.

Thanks again.
post #3632 of 11199
I need to replace my 10 year old Yamaha receiver. I have been doing a lot of research and have decided on the 1909/789. I have read the FAQ, over 50 pages of this tread and have downloaded and studied the Owner's Manual. Still I have two questions.

On page 21 of the 789's Owner's Manual (Preparation) for Auto Setup it says:

When using the subwoofer, make the following settings before starting the auto setup procedure:

Defeat the volume and crossover controls if possible.
Can't be done on my older sub.

If this is not possible then set:

Volume to 12 O'Clock

Crossover Frequency: Maximum/Highest
Etc, etc.


On my older sub there is a control knob that if rotated fully clockwise cut frequencies over 200Hz. Rotated fully counterclockwise it cuts frequencies over 50 Hz.

I'm assuming that I rotate this knob fully clockwise. Is that correct?

On page 46, 22 Dynamic Volume, Note it says that:

Dynamic Volume can only be set when auto setup has been performed.:

Is this saying that if you do a Manual Setup that Dynamic Volume is inoperable?
post #3633 of 11199
Gecko: yes. yes. DO AUTO SETUP!!!
post #3634 of 11199
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Originally Posted by Gecko10 View Post

I need to replace my 10 year old Yamaha receiver. I have been doing a lot of research and have decided on the 1909/789. I have read the FAQ, over 50 pages of this tread and have downloaded and studied the Owner's Manual. Still I have two questions.

On page 21 of the 789’s Owner’s Manual (Preparation) for Auto Setup it says:

“When using the subwoofer, make the following settings before starting the auto setup procedure:

Defeat the volume and crossover controls if possible.
Can’t be done on my older sub.

If this is not possible then set:

Volume to 12 O’Clock

Crossover Frequency: Maximum/Highest
Etc, etc.”


On my older sub there is a control knob that if rotated fully clockwise cut frequencies over 200Hz. Rotated fully counterclockwise it cuts frequencies over 50 Hz.

I’m assuming that I rotate this knob fully clockwise. Is that correct?

On page 46, 22 Dynamic Volume, Note it says that:

“Dynamic Volume can only be set when auto setup has been performed.:

Is this saying that if you do a Manual Setup that Dynamic Volume” is inoperable?

Yes, rotate the sub crossover clockwise so as not to interfere with the AVR setup.

Yes, if you do a Manual Setup, Dynamic Volume is inoperable.

Dana
post #3635 of 11199
http://batpigworld.com/

ho **** !!! don't mean to clutter the forum , but i must say thanks
post #3636 of 11199
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Originally Posted by lscolman View Post


Has anyone been able to confirm whether the the Room to Room minijack connectors function on the 1909?

No personal experience, however, just reading the manual, it seems to indicate only plugging into the single IN jack rather than the OUT jack or using both.
post #3637 of 11199
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Originally Posted by drbonbi View Post

Yes, rotate the sub crossover clockwise so as not to interfere with the AVR setup.

Yes, if you do a Manual Setup, Dynamic Volume is inoperable.

Dana

Thanks guys. Then I'm ASSuming that if you do the auto setup and you end up with something you don't like, then you can later tweak it and the Dynamic Volume will still remain operable. Is that correct?

BTW I just now ordered the 789 from Big River.

Thanks again.
post #3638 of 11199
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Originally Posted by Gecko10 View Post

Thanks guys. Then I'm ASSuming that if you do the auto setup and you end up with something you don't like, then you can later tweak it and the Dynamic Volume will still remain operable. Is that correct?

BTW I just now ordered the 789 from Big River.

Thanks again.

Yes.

May I suggest you start reading the first page of this thread and the links to what Batpig has contributed - now. Study it and you will have a jump start on setting your 789 up when it arrives.

Dana
post #3639 of 11199
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Originally Posted by Gecko10 View Post

I'm ASSuming that if you do the auto setup and you end up with something you don't like, then you can later tweak it and the Dynamic Volume will still remain operable.

**(looks over his shoulder to see if Rex and Gary are around)**

First, when you run auto setup, make sure to read the Audyssey Step-by-Step guide (linked to in the first post of the Audyssey thread and in the first post of this thread) and follow the instructions carefully.

Second, after you run auto setup, you are free to tweak the speaker configuration (things like speaker distance, channel level, crossover frequency) but you cannot actually tweak the EQ "curve" itself if you want to use Audyssey features. You will have three choices for a "target curve" - the standard Audyssey curve (flat with slight rolloff in the high freq's to tame the reflections in your room); the "Flat" curve (flat with no rolloff); and the "Bypass L/R" or "Front" curve, which doesn't tough your fronts and uses their response as the "target".

For more info on target curves, check out the Audyssey FAQ:
http://www.audyssey.com/faq/index.html
post #3640 of 11199
Hey, don't put me in the same sentence.

I would not really fool with speaker distance because Audyssey has set these as "electrical" distance to achieve a better balance from reflections. If they are way off it is more an indication of a setup or calibration problem.
post #3641 of 11199
just foolin' around, Gary you have been a very helpful and positive presence in this thread, no offense intended.

you are correct in that you shouldn't actually mess with the distance settings.
post #3642 of 11199
I know. Used the wrong smiley.
post #3643 of 11199
I am planning on getting a Denon AVR-889. Is this the same reciever as thread is about? Any suggestions on good in-the wall speakers?? I want a clean look, and also good low volumn sound.
post #3644 of 11199
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Originally Posted by customlll View Post

I am planning on getting a Denon AVR-889. Is this the same reciever as thread is about? Any suggestions on good in-the wall speakers?? I want a clean look, and also good low volumn sound.

Nope. You need to be in the 2309/889 thread.
post #3645 of 11199
Is the Denon AVR-889 similar to the AVR-789? What are the differences?
post #3646 of 11199
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Originally Posted by customlll View Post

Is the Denon AVR-889 similar to the AVR-789? What are the differences?

Custom, I searched the 2309/889 thread for "1909" and I found my answer to the same exact question asked earlier! Read batpig's answer (linked below) . You should know that some CC stores are closing and have very good deals on 789 & 889.

The 2309 has slightly more power-that usually doesn't make a whole lot of difference unless you're pushing it, say, with your 1909. AAFAIK it also has additional SQ processing capability, particularly on FR/FL which can improve SQ quite a bit for listening to stereo music if your front speakers are pretty good- you may hear additional clarity, dynamics, etc. So if you buy that one, use it for your HT, not bedroom. You'll likely be happy with either.
Here's one of batpig's prior comments:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post14729440
post #3647 of 11199
Thanks for the info. but the link doesn't work
post #3648 of 11199
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Q. Okay, so how do I get the "Dolby TrueHD" light to come on?? I love me some lights!

A. You need to buy a Blu Ray player which can "bitstream" the new audio codecs. Please refer to the AVR FAQ for more information:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=968859

Please note that THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE in sound quality when bitstreaming hi-res audio. The only difference is where the lossless audio is "unpacked."

Think of it like a zipped computer file that you email to your friend as an attachment. Regardless of whether you unzip it first and then attach it to the email, or you attach the zipped file and let your friend unzip it, the end result is IDENTICAL.

This is just for my education because I'm having a TrueHD light issue that I can't solve. I bought 300 the other day and the TrueHD light isn't coming on despite having my Blu-Ray Player (Panasonic BD35K) set to Bitstream. If I put in IronMan, light comes on. Any ideas why 300 won't activate the light when it is a TrueHd coded blu-ray disc?

Thanks in advance.
post #3649 of 11199
Any of you guys having issues with high pitched hissing sounds when watching some tv stations? I have a comcast motorolla receiver hooked up to my 789 with two Polk RTI8 as my fronts. I'm trying to isolate the problem. I've checked the speaker connections and all my connections to the 789 Any suggestions?
post #3650 of 11199
Subbing,

Just traded in my Onkyo 605 for the Denon 1909 club.
post #3651 of 11199
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Originally Posted by customlll View Post

Thanks for the info. but the link doesn't work

Sorry, maybe I did something wrong with the copy link thing, 2nd try:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post14729440

Also, here is the link to my post and the link embedded there should work.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...#post15293922:)
post #3652 of 11199
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Originally Posted by Keith25c View Post

This is just for my education because I'm having a TrueHD light issue that I can't solve. I bought 300 the other day and the TrueHD light isn't coming on despite having my Blu-Ray Player (Panasonic BD35K) set to Bitstream. If I put in IronMan, light comes on. Any ideas why 300 won't activate the light when it is a TrueHd coded blu-ray disc?

Thanks in advance.

Did you select the TrueHD track in the player?
post #3653 of 11199
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Did you select the TrueHD track in the player?

Hmm, the disc just played automatically upon insertion so I didn't have an option to choose TrueHD initially. I'll try to fiddle around with it. Would that selection be on the main menu of the disc?
post #3654 of 11199
TrueHD is usually NOT the default audio track. There is an "audio" button on your remote which will cycle through the audio tracks. Next time try searching, this specific issue with your specific BDP has come up several times before, probably even within the last 100 posts...

Sometimes I believe you also have to disable "secondary audio", since if the BDP has to "mix" in audio like from button sounds or PIP commentary it has to downmix or be set to "PCM" output.
post #3655 of 11199
Appreciate the feedback. Secondary audio is already disabled. By the way, I did search before posting but didn't find exactly what I was experiencing. I'll make a note to use more specific search terms next time.

My issue has been fixed with the audio button tip - thanks to Gary J and batpig.
post #3656 of 11199
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

TrueHD is usually NOT the default audio track. There is an "audio" button on your remote which will cycle through the audio tracks. Next time try searching, this specific issue with your specific BDP has come up several times before, probably even within the last 100 posts...

Sometimes I believe you also have to disable "secondary audio", since if the BDP has to "mix" in audio like from button sounds or PIP commentary it has to downmix or be set to "PCM" output.

Rather Bad Cop-ish - I like it. I have that player and current thinking is you get HD Audio either way as long as Secondary Audio = Off.
post #3657 of 11199
Hello all... I am actualy new to this new fangled AVR's due to the fact that i just finaly replace my old rx-v995 with the 1909.. but am very tech knoledgeable..

my only question is this.

I believe i have this correct.

The only time you can apply PL II or neo 6 to a 5.1 dolby digial signal is when you are going to matrix it to a 7.1 setup.. I have a 5.1 setup. is this correct or am a missing how to chage that..

the only thing i hate about this new AVR is that i am now itching to ugrade my BDP-S1 to a BD35K. but i would have to find a disk that wont play in the S1 first to justify it to meself
post #3658 of 11199
Hi All,
I purchased a 789 yesterday. Spent most of the day today setting it up only to discover that you can not send a digital signal to Zone 2. I play all my music from my Mac which is in another room. I use a digital optical cable for music Am I out of luck for sending music to Zone 2. I can't hook up RCA cables
Anyone know if there are any other receivers that will send a digital signal to a second zone.
I am really dissapointed, the Denon sounds great in my Home theatre room, but half the time I will want music in my living room.
post #3659 of 11199
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

have you run Audyssey?

Thanks batpig. We'll try and run the Audyssey and see it that works.
post #3660 of 11199
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Originally Posted by ramimac View Post

The only time you can apply PL II or neo 6 to a 5.1 dolby digial signal is when you are going to matrix it to a 7.1 setup.. I have a 5.1 setup. is this correct or am a missing how to chage that..

Correct. However, PLII will also kick in with a stereo 2.0 source and simulate 5.1 audio as well as is the case with SD TV channels.
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