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post #6901 of 11199
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Originally Posted by Zamps View Post

Anyone use the Denon ipod docks? I'm looking for something to connect my 4gen Nano to my new 1909. Which will hopefully be arriving soon! Anyone have any other suggestions?

If you choose a Denon dock, make sure to review the iPod dock Compatibility Chart to select the correct dock based on your requirements. Because the 1909 does not have a RS-232 jack, you would have to send it to an authorized repair facility to install the software fix for the video issue if using the ASD-11R.

The 1910 due out next month most likely will have the fix installed as well as including a new RS-232 jack.
post #6902 of 11199
I try to hook up my computer to my Toshiba 50" plasma directly with a computer monitor cable and nothing comes up on the screen. Do I need to do something to my computer or do I need to restart it or something? Any1 know?
post #6903 of 11199
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Originally Posted by samwoo2go View Post

Toshiba 50" plasma directly with a computer monitor cable and nothing comes up on the screen

You have connected the TV directly with the pc? So your question has nothing to do with this thread?
After you have connected them, you need to go to your your Graphics Card Control Panel and tell it to use the screen.
post #6904 of 11199
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Originally Posted by EvilNui View Post

You have connected the TV directly with the pc? So your question has nothing to do with this thread?

Actually it does .. if you have been following his previous posts in this thread. As a 2309 owner, it's great to have some assistance in the 1909 thread, however, it is much more helpful if you review previous posts made by a 1909 OP prior to responding.
post #6905 of 11199
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

If you choose a Denon dock, make sure to review the iPod dock Compatibility Chart to select the correct dock based on your requirements. Because the 1909 does not have a RS-232 jack, you would have to send it to an authorized repair facility to install the software fix for the video issue if using the ASD-11R.

The 1910 due out next month most likely will have the fix installed as well as including a new RS-232 jack.

I'm really not interested in video output, so I'm not too worried about that issue. I just want a way to play music. With the denon docks will the remote control the ipod functions?
post #6906 of 11199
Yes, AFAIK the arrow keys on the remote will act like the wheel does on the iPod.
post #6907 of 11199
it is for the zone two functions
post #6908 of 11199
Have a setup that uses the "B" speakers to add two speakers to a kitchen that connects to the main room. i would like to have some control over the volume. problems is that the source signal on the b channels would need to be louder than the "A" channels. obviously the easy answer is to use zone two but it is attached to a whole house audio system in the rest of the house. since the kitchen is open to the main zone speakers it seems a shame to tie it to the rest of the house and lose the discrete zones. i am really at a loss we do have a line level analog output that could run a amplfier but that seems excessive. i dont know so i will put it out to a more imaginitive person than I thanks for any info that i can get
post #6909 of 11199
I ordered an 889. Looking forward to setting it up.
post #6910 of 11199
I am planning to replace my HK AVR255 to Denon AVR 1909 . For some reason I need hdmi input for video and digital audio (coax or optical) for audio mapped from one source (STB).
On HK it is possible - is it on Denon ?
post #6911 of 11199
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Originally Posted by silvom View Post

I am planning to replace my HK AVR255 to Denon AVR 1909 . For some reason I need hdmi input for video and digital audio (coax or optical) for audio mapped from one source (STB).
On HK it is possible - is it on Denon ?

Yes it is possible. See pp 41-42 of the manual, downloadable from usa.denon.com. 5. Input Mode=digital 8 Assign-digital in must be specified
"For some reason" HDMI & dig audio? OK, but for a stb, component & optical is often a good choice if going thru the AVR.
post #6912 of 11199
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Originally Posted by silvom View Post

I am planning to replace my HK AVR255 to Denon AVR 1909 . For some reason I need hdmi input for video and digital audio (coax or optical) for audio mapped from one source (STB).
On HK it is possible - is it on Denon ?

I am running DVI to HDMI cable to my 789 and optical for audio...Works wonderfully...
post #6913 of 11199
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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

Yes it is possible. See pp 41-42 of the manual, downloadable from usa.denon.com. 5. Input Mode=digital 8 Assign-digital in must be specified
"For some reason" HDMI & dig audio? OK, but for a stb, component & optical is often a good choice if going thru the AVR.

Thanks for your quick answers - looks like a great user's community here !
Anyway, I think that HDMI ONLY is the best choice - but my provider somehow downmixes the Dolby Digital sound over HDMI and I am forced to use SPDIF to be able to listen to Dolby Digital sound transmitted on some TV channels (PCM is OK over HDMI).
post #6914 of 11199
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Originally Posted by leroycorbid View Post

Have a setup that uses the "B" speakers to add two speakers to a kitchen that connects to the main room. i would like to have some control over the volume. problems is that the source signal on the b channels would need to be louder than the "A" channels. obviously the easy answer is to use zone two but it is attached to a whole house audio system in the rest of the house. since the kitchen is open to the main zone speakers it seems a shame to tie it to the rest of the house and lose the discrete zones. i am really at a loss we do have a line level analog output that could run a amplfier but that seems excessive. i dont know so i will put it out to a more imaginitive person than I thanks for any info that i can get

A + B will produce exactly the same signal. The only reason B would be louder is if 1. the kitchen speakers are more efficient and/or 2. something about the acoustics of the kitchen makes them sound louder.

That really isn't the point of the "B speakers, but rather the function of multiroom zone functions. A & B speakers will always be "tied together" in terms of volume/source. However, you can still make it work, you just need something that is beyond the internal capabilities of the 1909.

Your best options are:

1. install some sort of EXTERNAL, in-line volume control, they sell them with decora wall plates so you can mount it like an outlet or light switch in the kitchen. this is a cheap solution if you are handy enough to wire it up, here is one example from Home Depot: http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...7X-_-100656945

2. upgrade to the 2809CI for 3-zone control!
post #6915 of 11199
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Originally Posted by silvom View Post

- but my provider somehow downmixes the Dolby Digital sound over HDMI and I am forced to use SPDIF to be able to listen to Dolby Digital sound transmitted on some TV channels (PCM is OK over HDMI).


If you've got an ATT Uverse box, that is indeed the case, as until a software update is issued, the best you'll get over HDMI is 2.0.
post #6916 of 11199
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Originally Posted by leroycorbid View Post

Have a setup that uses the "B" speakers to add two speakers to a kitchen that connects to the main room. i would like to have some control over the volume. problems is that the source signal on the b channels would need to be louder than the "A" channels.

I was composing my response and bp answered about the Denon internally not offering a solution.
1. If I am understanding you correctly you want the kitchen louder, so you could substitute more efficient speakers in the kitchen. If it were the other way round, you could use a speaker volume control in the kitchen as bp suggested. I personally would not attenuate the "A" mains in your HT area but I suppose that could be done.
2. Your idea of amplifying the kitchen speakers is probably your best option; get a simple cheap 2 ch amp to drive them.
post #6917 of 11199
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Originally Posted by silvom View Post

Thanks for your quick answers - looks like a great user's community here !

Silvom, how nice of you to say. bp, jdsmoothie, JohnAV, and others, deserve kudos for their enthusiasm, expertise, patience, accuracy and the tone of good humor which (generally) permeates the Denon threads. This is the nicest bunch of folks I've (n)ever met! The Audyssey thread is another great resource with top notch expert help.

BTW I highly recommend the att (or comcast) HDDVR. It's well worth the expense for the added functionality. Get the HDMI equipped version, and you'll still have the component outs available if "handshake" problems occur. And with either HDMI or optical audio, the HD channels are great, you'll get DD 5.1 on many, and the Denon does a very fine job with DD 2.0->5.1.
post #6918 of 11199
Hello all. Long time lurker but first post. Don't have the 1909 but am considering it. I have an older legacy Marantz right now but do have a Panny BD60 Blu ray so want to upgrade the reciever. Will the 1909 upscale an HDMI source from 1080i to 1080p? I'm speaking of HD cable specifically. Right now I am running an HDMI cable directly from my tv (which is a 1080p model) to my Scientific Atlanta HD DVR. On cable HD programs I can only get 1080i to display on my TV and cable box. Will the Denon upscale this to 1080p or are all HDMI signals left as is? Of course I do get 1080p from Bluray. Is this simply a matter of the cable co. in my area(Comcast) only broadcasting in 1080i? So I am wondering if I will be able to get 1080p from HD cable with the 1909. Thanks
post #6919 of 11199
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Originally Posted by majorleague View Post

Will the 1909 upscale an HDMI source from 1080i to 1080p? I'm speaking of HD cable specifically.

No it will not, but that doesn't matter as your TV will display all sources as 1080p, as it is now. The Denon will pass all HDMI thru untouched, as it should be. Do not worry about this issue. AVR's in this price range don't improve over your TV's capacity to upscale HDMI signals. Your cable signal is your cable signal and what you see is what you get, if you have the settings in your cable box and TV correct. For more info, find some of the posts on this topic by using "search this thread" and read batpig's guide FAQ on the topic.
post #6920 of 11199
So even though the cable box display and the monitor display says the signal is 1080i I am actually getting 1080p?
post #6921 of 11199
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Originally Posted by majorleague View Post

So even though the cable box display and the monitor display says the signal is 1080i I am actually getting 1080p?

Well, you're getting a nice 1080i signal out of your box which your TV (it is a decent 1080p display, right?) deinterlaces and displays the only way it can, at its native 1080p resolution.
post #6922 of 11199
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Originally Posted by majorleague View Post

So even though the cable box display and the monitor display says the signal is 1080i I am actually getting 1080p?

It doesn't really matter as the vast majority of folks would not be able to tell the difference between the two, especially at an average viewing distance of 10-12' or so. It's been said over and over and over again in these Denon threads ... don't buy a lower level Denon AVR for the upscaling capability as it is likely no better than your HDTV.
post #6923 of 11199
Noob here.

Just got the 789 today. Pretty basic set up question, but cant find the answer anywhere...

I'm setting my xbox video through component. Audio is going through the L/R audio cords (i think they're called RF...but they are the basic cords that are attached to the component) Video works fine. No audio. Need assistance.

To make sure I'm stating this correctly, the audio cords are plugged into the left most audio in jacks which are labled DVD.

I have it running through 1-RCA (reads DVD on back for both audio and video).

I changed the input V. AUX to Xbox.

Input mode is set to analog. I can only choose between analog and EXT IN.

Thanks
post #6924 of 11199
changed the input from DVD to VCR and it seems to be working now.
post #6925 of 11199
Hi all
I bought a Denon AVR-789 yesterday and have had some fun setting it up using the Denon manual Luckily, I found this forum which has made the process a lot easier - Thankyou!
I have set up the Denon so that it works ok - apart from my vcr connection.
I have connected the vcr by composite cables to the VCR (Ipod) sockets on the avr and then from the VCR out on the avr back to the VCR.

I can record OK but when I switch inputs the VCR records that as well instead of recording the original input. What have I done wrong here?

Thanks for any advice
post #6926 of 11199
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Just a relic from older models -- it is amusing to see an HDMI input labeled "VCR" though, isn't it?

Hopefully they will wise up soon and go to a simpler naming format of "Video 1", "Video 2", "Video 3" etc. like Onkyo and HK have. Since you can assign and rename inputs as needed, there is no reason to pre-select stupid names like "HDP" or "VCR", then you get confusion with people not understanding how the inputs can be assigned as desired.

That would be nice. My Sony W4100 TV does this, but it also really screws it up in another way. Sony names the inputs as you described, and it lets me assign labels to them from a non-editable set (lame), but various parts of the setup interface give only the input types/numbers; they do NOT give the labels I assigned. So when I'm configuring things like Game Mode, Cinemotion, etc, I have to remember the Wii is hooked up to "Component 1", the HTPC is hooked up to "HDMI 1", the receiver is hooked up to "HDMI 2", and so forth. I guess this is so dumb there's little chance that someone else would do the same dumb thing.
post #6927 of 11199
Fellow Denon'ers,

I've been using a WD TV media player hooked up to 789 via HDMI. The audio setting on WD TV was set to 'Stereo' all the while and I had no problems with it. I recently laid my hands on a mkv file and it apparently comes with digital audio. I set the WD TV to output 'Digital' audio and connected a 'toslink' cable between the 789 and WD TV and i have no sound. I do see the words 'dts' and 'digital' highlighted on my 789 though. If i changed the WD TV audio option to 'Stereo', i hear sounds albeit less impressively.

I am wondering if there is a audio assignment option that needs to be enabled on the 789 or if my setup is wrong, I'd appreciate any advice that comes my way.

Video --> WDTV HDMI OUT --> 789 HDMI IN (DVD)
Audio --> WDTV Optical Audio OUT --> 789 Optical Audio IN

Thank you very much buddies .

S
post #6928 of 11199
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Originally Posted by Sands1955 View Post

I can record OK but when I switch inputs the VCR records that as well instead of recording the original input. What have I done wrong here?

it's going to be tough to find people on this thread actually using their VCR to record!

I believe the problem is that the REC OUT source selection is probably set to "source", which means it will record whatever the currently selected source is.

If you want it to record a specific source, regardless of the current selection, what you need to do is hit the "ZONE 2 / REC SELECT" button (on the unit, on the left under the source select knob) and then when it says "REC OUT" use the knob to select the source that you want to record. Then, the REC OUT source will be "disconnected" from the main source selection.

Note that the Zone 2 source and the REC OUT source are tied together, so whatever is selected for REC OUT will also play in Zone 2 (just in case you also have Zone 2).

This is described in the recording section of the "Other Operations" section in your manual (pg 60 or so).
post #6929 of 11199
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Originally Posted by mylairam View Post

I tried to connect a 'toslink' cable to between 789 and WD TV and i have no sound. I do see the words 'dts' and 'digital' highlighted on my 789 though.

did you actually ASSIGN that particular optical input to the source name you are using for the media player?

If you have assigned the optical input correctly, and input mode is set to AUTO for that source name, then there is nothing else to do on the receiver side.
post #6930 of 11199
quick question, is there any way i can connect my ipod to the 789 without buying a dock? What kind of cable would i need?
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