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post #2221 of 2358
He got up, pulled the knife out, turned around and said "That hurt."
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Thanks!
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Bryan Fuller interviewed about changes he's applied to the "Heroes" storylines he inherited from Volumes 3 and 4, previews Volume 5 and teases about the fates of a few characters: http://heroesspoilers-odi.blogspot.c...and-whats.html. WARNING: no spoilers for the "Heroes" season finale but a couple of reveals about previous episodes. Reader discretion is advised but it's a pretty damn good read.
post #2224 of 2358
All other things being left alone for the moment...

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How did everyone, Noah of all people, forget about magic Claire blood? I can understand the mindwiping Sylar part... but why didn't they bring Nathan actually back to life? I'd have even bought it if they tried to do it and it didn't work (maybe because it's a one trick pony or something) but they didn't even try!
post #2225 of 2358
Very good episode tonight except for the ending. I didn't like what they did to Sylar and I was hoping we were rid of Tracy forever.

Peter has all of Sylars powers and Hiro looks like his power is killing him.

Should be an interesting Volume 5 next season.
post #2226 of 2358
Holy Deus ex Machina, Batman!

Sylar is tamed and turned into the good, again. What a load of roadapples- but it's par for the course for this utterly spent show. Then they give us three minutes of season 5 just to assure us it's coming back.

Let it die.
post #2227 of 2358
Wow, I actually thought tonight's episode was pretty good. For the first time all season I was actually entertained and not rolling my eyes throughout the entire episode....well, except when Claire did the ol' "I can tell you now or you can shoot me then I'll tell you" line which of course sucked like most of her lines always do.

I actually liked the way they got rid of Sylar, seeing as how he was too powerful. They left it open that they can bring a less-powerful version of him back perhaps.

Eh...I thought it was a pretty good episode, considering how bad the rest of the season was.
post #2228 of 2358
So what's the deal with Peter now? Does he have all of Sylar's powers?

Also, was anyone else extremely happy to see Nathan die, and then extremely pissed that they brought him back?
post #2229 of 2358
Once again, a finale that didn't really have a satisfactory ending.

A Clairefusion should have been used to save Nathan, not this dangerous way of trying to turn Sylar into Nathan. Sylar has too powerful an ego for that to work forever.

Oh well, this volume has been a very tedious one, and is thankfully over. Hopefully the next volume will be better.
post #2230 of 2358
OK, so how did Sylar learn how to fly? He didn't kill Nathan until the end, did he get it from Claire's old boyfriend Wes? You never know what's up with Sylar, but I'm sure he'll be back to piss us off again next year. And if Peter is uber-powerful again, ugh. That can't last, so he'll have to lose it all again, and...

The whole family is disillusioned with the show now - everyone thinks the writers have absolutely no clue where they're going and are just making it up as they go, probably at a local bar.
post #2231 of 2358
Ok i have defended this show since day 1. But last night pissed me off..

Nope im not pissed off with them not using claires blood to save nathan.(come on guys lets be for real, if they did that, you guys would complain about that too)

and im not pissed off that everyone got back to normal and all is well.

What i am pissed off is the whole dilemma that they are in... How about just erasing sylars thoughts and once he does the thing, kill him. why keep him alive? for the love of god, the guy cant be killed. get rid of him now while you still can... but they keep him alive. Then freaking ICe girl is back.

argghhh i will keep on watching but this was just stupid.
post #2232 of 2358
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

OK, so how did Sylar learn how to fly? He didn't kill Nathan until the end, did he get it from Claire's old boyfriend Wes?

I was wondering the same thing. Also, when Sylar was controlling Claire (drinking wine), was he using the puppet master ability. If so, when did he acquire that ability?
post #2233 of 2358
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

So what's the deal with Peter now? Does he have all of Sylar's powers?

Also, was anyone else extremely happy to see Nathan die, and then extremely pissed that they brought him back?

No, Peter can only take one power. He specifically said in the limo that I bet you were suprised I took that ONE. A clear reference to one power he took.
post #2234 of 2358
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

OK, so how did Sylar learn how to fly? He didn't kill Nathan until the end, did he get it from Claire's old boyfriend Wes? You never know what's up with Sylar, but I'm sure he'll be back to piss us off again next year. And if Peter is uber-powerful again, ugh. That can't last, so he'll have to lose it all again, and...

The whole family is disillusioned with the show now - everyone thinks the writers have absolutely no clue where they're going and are just making it up as they go, probably at a local bar.

He didn't fly. He has demonstrated his ability to use his telekenisis like power to levitate up and down. That is all he did, he moved himself down to the balcony.
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Originally Posted by Mike4HDTV View Post

I was wondering the same thing. Also, when Sylar was controlling Claire (drinking wine), was he using the puppet master ability. If so, when did he acquire that ability?

He got the power when they were in the building that burnt down. Noah sent the puppet master (and others) after Sylar when they were all in the building.
post #2236 of 2358
It's impossible to have any argument regarding the extent of Sylar's powers because:

a) the episodes don't show every second of Sylar's life, so it's always plausible that he acquired a power "off camera" that the writers did not reveal to the viewers

b) it's not clear anymore whether Sylar even has to kill somebody to take their power. his ex-girlfriend taught him how to take a power without even touching a person, and the writers have not really developed that point.
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In this week's "Beaming Beeman" blog from director/producer Greg Beeman, it has been announced that this will be the last Heroes-related installment, as he has departed the series. "Ultimately this was a financially motivated decision made by NBC. They no longer want to have a Producer/Director position on the show. But it coincides well with my own innate wanderlust, and so, while sad to leave so many friends and comrades, I am excited for the future," he wrote.
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post #2238 of 2358
I thought it was good wrap up to the season. Hiro's problem with his powers could part of the limitations of baby Matt Parkman's power. Making Sylar a ticking time bomb is a nice plot device which I am sure they will explore. It would have been nice to see the fight between Peter, Nathan, and Sylar but I understand the show needs to keep the budget under control.
post #2239 of 2358
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

He got the power when they were in the building that burnt down. Noah sent the puppet master (and others) after Sylar when they were all in the building.

Didn't he (Sylar) leave the Puppet Master all strung ip in Drenko's/Drako's (whatever his name his?) apartment?

I thought last night's episode was heads and tails above the previous season. I actually enjoyed it for the first time in a LOOOOONG time. I was about 1/2 way through it when I said to myself "Holy crap, am I actually interested in this episode?"
post #2240 of 2358
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Didn't he (Sylar) leave the Puppet Master all strung ip in Drenko's/Drako's (whatever his name his?) apartment?

I thought last night's episode was heads and tails above the previous season. I actually enjoyed it for the first time in a LOOOOONG time. I was about 1/2 way through it when I said to myself "Holy crap, am I actually interested in this episode?"

He looked dead to me. However, Sylar does not need to kill someone to take their powers anymore.
post #2241 of 2358
The only two things I hated in this episode was:

1. When Sylar was in Nathan's office and Nathan's secretary came in, Sylar's back was to her and then he shap shifted after she talked to him. The back of Sylar's head is completely different, the hair is very thick. Nathan's is very short. She couldn't see that part changing? She was starring right at him.

2. This whole problem with Hiro is a lame attempt from the writers to tone down his power. It is so stupid. All of a sudden he is the first hero to have his body reject the powers? And/or he has this problem. Stupid. There are other heroes that have used their powers WAY more then Hiro and they have no problems. A VERY lame attempt to limit his ability because they are to lame themselves to work with it in the script.
post #2242 of 2358
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

He looked dead to me. However, Sylar does not need to kill someone to take their powers anymore.

Yeah, that's what I was saying...just pointing out how Sylar got The Puppet Master's Power....if I remember correctly (which I may not since I tended to daydream a lot during the season since I didn't really care about it anymore).
post #2243 of 2358
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

2. This whole problem with Hiro is a lame attempt from the writers to tone down his power. It is so stupid. All of a sudden he is the first hero to have his body reject the powers? And/or he has this problem. Stupid. There are other heroes that have used their powers WAY more then Hiro and they have no problems. A VERY lame attempt to limit his ability because they are to lame themselves to work with it in the script.

Well, so far Hiro is the only one whose power came from Baby Touch & Go. What I'm waiting for (and am surprised they didn't do yet) is have Ando shoot Hiro with his Crimson Arc and supercharge him back to a more powerful state. Maybe not time travel, but time freezing and teleportation wouldn't be out of the question.
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For a really weird twist, consider...

They never actually showed how "Peter" replaced the President. By the time "Sylar" as Nathan replaces that other guy and follows the entourage, "Peter" is already in place. Similarly, they chose not to show "Sylar" kill the guy he replaced.

So... it is not outside the realm of possibility that the whole thing did not go down as we think.

What if... Peter was Nathan, to get to the entourage and replaced Nathan's friend after a quick explanation. Meanwhile, Sylar had already replaced the President. When "Peter" says "Bet you're surprised I took that one" he *could* be talking about the syringe...

So... What we could have is Sylar masquerading now as Peter... and Peter mindwiped to think he was Sylar who is now Nathan!

Ok, probably not what happened... but I can't think of anything they actually showed that makes it impossible. The fact that they didn't show either replacement actually happen leaves the door open for that switcheroo.
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NBC's 'Chuck' and 'Heroes' finales garnered average ratings

CBS took first place at 9 with Two and a Half Men (4.9/12) and Rules of Engagement (3.9/10) delivering a 4.4/11. Two and a Half Men earned the highest-rated half hour on the night. ABC stayed in second at 3.6/9 and were again first in viewers with 15.1 million. The last half hour of Dancing With the Stars at 9 earned a 4.7/12 with 20.4 million viewers, the most-watched half hour of the night. The sitcom Surviving Suburbia at 9:30 dropped to fourth with a 2.4/6. Fox fell to third with 24 pulling a 3.4/8. NBC was next at 3.0/7 for the season finale of Heroes. One Tree Hill on the CW came in fifth at 1.1/3.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/art...Close_Race.php
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

The only two things I hated in this episode was:

1. When Sylar was in Nathan's office and Nathan's secretary came in, Sylar's back was to her and then he shap shifted after she talked to him. The back of Sylar's head is completely different, the hair is very thick. Nathan's is very short. She couldn't see that part changing? She was starring right at him.

I have seen a cast photo and I think Sylar is shorter than Nathan. Either way in a blink of an eye most people would discount it as their eyes playing tricks on them instead of a shape shifter.
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HDMe2 unfortunately that's the sorta thing that's made this show such a wreck, but thankfully that's not what happened. Claire, Noah, and Peter talked to the guards, then they made the switch and put Peter in as the President. The fact that they didn't show what happened to the other guy Sylar replaced was probably just prudent editing.

As far as Peter's powers go, it's possible that Peter just took the one ability, but here's the question: Can Peter do what his father did? Their powers seem very similar, but Pappa was able to take someone's power completely leaving them powerless. When he took Peter's ability, he seemed to take them all. Peter may not be able to that, take on multiple abilities from one person, or maybe he just didn't get enough contact with Sylar during the fight...Sylar probably figured out what Peter was up to before he was able to absorb all of his abilities, and that's why he took the fight away from Peter.

I don't know, but honestly I've never had a problem with Peter's super ability, or Hiro's, or even Sylar's--the problem has always been the writing--making the characters act, behave, and respond in ways that makes sense. Like seriously, Claire's blood should've been used to save Nathan...in fact everyone should be carrying a vile of it around for just such emergencies LOL
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Originally Posted by JediMastr View Post

the problem has always been the writing--making the characters act, behave, and respond in ways that makes sense. Like seriously, Claire's blood should've been used to save Nathan...in fact everyone should be carrying a vile of it around for just such emergencies LOL

Agreed. It's like they use a different team of writers for every short story arc, and those writers are oblivious to everything that has previously occurred. There is no continuity or consistency at all in Heroes. This show is the complete, polar opposite of Lost when it comes to story writing. I think when the writers went on strike at the start of season two, Heroes hired some scabs and never went back to the professional writers.
post #2249 of 2358
I wonder if they keep changing the future, or if certain "prophesies" are still going to occur? We still haven't seen: Hiro fighting Ando, How Peter gets his scar, how Hiro becomes a badass, and what ever happened to that Irish girl that Peter left in the future?
post #2250 of 2358
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Originally Posted by spid View Post

I have seen a cast photo and I think Sylar is shorter than Nathan. Either way in a blink of an eye most people would discount it as their eyes playing tricks on them instead of a shape shifter.

I don't buy that. She as standing there talking to him for a few seconds first as he was Sylar. His back to her. His hair VERY thick and dark and before her eyes the back of his head changes to short, not as dark hair. She couldn't of missed that.
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