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post #151 of 2570
Newegg have g45 board under Supermicro brand. Anyone know about them?
post #152 of 2570
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Originally Posted by siusiuenen View Post

Newegg have g45 board under Supermicro brand. Anyone know about them?

I looked at the specs on those and saw that the audio was realtek...doesn't that take away a large chunk of what's interesting about this chipset?
post #153 of 2570
Does anyone else think its weird that every single outfit listing these boards in stock say there's 3 available, shipping from Memphis, TN? The prices are all over the place, also. I've got one on backorder from Sparco for $115 + shipping and I sure hope they don't bump that up to $130-$140 when the damn thing actually comes out.
post #154 of 2570
Oh man, I was planning on the Noctua NH-C12P heatsink for my case, but it may be that it's too tall. (114mm)

My case is a Silverstone GD-02 case with DG45ID mobo and E8400 CPU, and estimating, it appears that best-case I'll have 90mm clear-height. Is it possible this heatsink might fit? How to find out without the mobo? If not, can ne1 recommend a heatsink?
post #155 of 2570
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Originally Posted by siusiuenen View Post

Newegg have g45 board under Supermicro brand. Anyone know about them?

Review of this board, or at least the IGP, here: ....

OK I can't post URLs because I'm a noob.

It's currently on the frontpage of phoronix-dot-com.

Written from a very Linux perspective, as it's a Linux review site.
post #156 of 2570
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Good rep (assuming reviews are for real) so I ordered from them today. Three hours later Whups, out of stock, all of a sudden. So canceled my order. ETA supposedly 8 Aug... yeah, sure. Assume the same happened to anyone who ordered from the following

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Only two reviews. Bad rep.

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Only two reviews. Good rep.

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They often send wrong parts! (If shipped at all) Bad rep.

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Shipping/in stock problems:
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/UniStorage
post #157 of 2570
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Originally Posted by ixion View Post

Thanks for the reply. I did see one HTPC case that offered a 3.5mm jack at the back, I think it is connected to the IR receiver on the front. I will have to investigate that. There must be a way to connect a 3.5mm jack to the motherboard's IR receiver. Worse case, I'll do what you have done.

+1

I am a huge fan of URC. currently have mx-700 remote and will get mx900 remote and MRF-350 RF receiver or MRF-260.

I am still reading on how to integrate MRF-350 to this new Intel board. Can MX-900/MRF350 control everything in a HTPC? for example, if I install a TV tunner/capture card, can I control DVR funtions with MX-900 remote? or do I have to use the remote which come with the tunner/capture card? what about controlling DVD playback?
post #158 of 2570
I just saw Gigabyte has released their new G45 Micro-AXT GA-EG45M-DS2H and it seems to be available over NewEgg.

Does it have the same feasures as the Intel DG45ID???
post #159 of 2570
Thread Starter 
Funny you should ask. Here's the official thread I just started. I've already got one on order and will test it within a day or two. It may actually be a better option than the DG45ID, especially for anyone interested in a board that provides a bitstreaming audio solution soonest.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1054632
post #160 of 2570
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Originally Posted by odditory View Post

Funny you should ask. Here's the official thread I just started. I've already got one on order and will test it within a day or two. It may actually be a better option than the DG45ID, especially for anyone interested in a board that provides a bitstreaming audio solution soonest.[/url]

Hehehe... I've just noticed your thread.

So I understand that IT IS quite the same board with similar features.

I guess I'll get either the DG45ID or the GA-EG45, whichever I'll find in stock first (I mean, in my business trip to Detroit --> Planning to buy at MicroCenter)
post #161 of 2570
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I looked at the specs on those and saw that the audio was realtek...doesn't that take away a large chunk of what's interesting about this chipset?

sigh.... NO, the Realtek is the ANALOG audio chipset... the G45 Intel chip handles the HDMI...

post #162 of 2570
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sigh.... NO, the Realtek is the ANALOG audio chipset... the G45 Intel chip handles the HDMI...


But, lots of people aren't happy with the Realtek chipsets for analog audio and LAN.

I'm glad the Intel board has no Realtek or JMicron crapsets.
post #163 of 2570
IDT (The Artist Formerly Known as Sigmatel) has not impressed me either. There doesn't seem to be a great choice when it comes to analog audio codecs.
post #164 of 2570
IDT is even worse than Realtek ... But it supports Dolby Home Theater (= Dolby ProLogic IIx + Dobly Digital Live), that is good for S/PDIF users.
post #165 of 2570
So what's the latest on the mobo being available in the US from reputable dealers (like NewEgg)?
post #166 of 2570
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

IDT is even worse than Realtek ... But it supports Dolby Home Theater (= Dolby ProLogic IIx + Dobly Digital Live), that is good for S/PDIF users.

That's good enough for me. If I were not using HDMI audio, I'd be using s/pdif.

The main problem I have with all the Realtek chipsets I've used is hiss when outputting 2ch stereo to my bedroom panel.

I'm 100% HDMI now though, so that's a worry of the past.

PS - Doesn't Realtek also support DD Live and DTS connect?
post #167 of 2570
Posting to try to bring this thread back from the dead..
post #168 of 2570
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Originally Posted by drlava View Post

Posting to try to bring this thread back from the dead..

It looks like a bunch of pages were deleted from this thread, as it's been pretty lively the last week!
post #169 of 2570
Sorry. After the G45's review at Extremetech we decided a press blackout was in order and asked AVS to delete all of the information posted since its debut. AVS was a bit overzealous.

post #170 of 2570
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Originally Posted by archibael View Post

Sorry. After the G45's review at Extremetech we decided a press blackout was in order and asked AVS to delete all of the information posted since its debut. AVS was a bit overzealous.


LOL

Apparently, people do not bother to read the front page.
post #171 of 2570
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Originally Posted by archibael View Post

Sorry. After the G45's review at Extremetech we decided a press blackout was in order and asked AVS to delete all of the information posted since its debut. AVS was a bit overzealous.


So, a 30 out of 100 on the HQV test... does this board still make sense to get for a non-graphics card HTPC build?!
post #172 of 2570
I don't know about you guys, but i don't think extremetech tested what the board was actually meant to do... i mean who is buying this board to play crysis?
there is a paragraph on it. nothing about decoding mkv or x264 1080p files, etc.
I don't really hold that review with much more than a grain of salt
post #173 of 2570
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Originally Posted by drlava View Post

So, a 30 out of 100 on the HQV test... does this board still make sense to get for a non-graphics card HTPC build?!

That's up to you and your usage model. With the exeception of Denoise, all HD HQV benchmarks are for deinterlacing 1080i material. If you are going to be viewing films on Blu-ray, it's largely irrelevant. If you're going to be viewing a lot of noisy 1080i encoded recordings, you may be concerned.

Based on the information I have (and you can take it with a grain of salt-- it's from Intel) WinDVD betas with advanced deinterlacing and film mode detection enabled scored a perfect score on the last two tests (35 points).

I can only draw the conclusion HD advanced deinterlacing was not enabled in the version of PowerDVD they used in their review. This isn't Extremetech's fault necessarily, but I don't personally believe it's reflective of what the chipset is capable of.

High-def Denoise may not improve in this generation (it's not in the HW), so if your criteria for success include a 100 score you should probably look elsewhere. With proper implementation in the player software, I think you can look forward to scores of 55 or more.
post #174 of 2570
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Originally Posted by archibael View Post

That's up to you and your usage model. With the exeception of Denoise, all HD HQV benchmarks are for deinterlacing 1080i material. If you are going to be viewing films on Blu-ray, it's largely irrelevant. If you're going to be viewing a lot of noisy 1080i encoded recordings, you may be concerned.

Based on the information I have (and you can take it with a grain of salt-- it's from Intel) WinDVD betas with advanced deinterlacing and film mode detection enabled scored a perfect score on the last two tests (35 points).

I can only draw the conclusion HD advanced deinterlacing was not enabled in the version of PowerDVD they used in their review. This isn't Extremetech's fault necessarily, but I don't personally believe it's reflective of what the chipset is capable of.

High-def Denoise may not improve in this generation (it's not in the HW), so if your criteria for success include a 100 score you should probably look elsewhere. With proper implementation in the player software, I think you can look forward to scores of 55 or more.

at archiebal:
i'm using my htpc to play all king of movies also Bluray 24p and ffdshow with seesaw. I also use a floppydtv to watch tv where a couple hd channels are 1080i. will i then run into trouble with bad pq or will it be fixed with firmwares?
post #175 of 2570
I certainly want Intel to succeed with its G45 and specialized motherboard efforts. Someone else on this forum posted a similar statement, but unfortunately that message was deleted. I am encouraged by the press blackout; I take it as an acknowledgement that Intel too wants a G45 HTPC success.

In addition, I encourage Intel marketing to ensure Intel specialists officially, publically participate in forums such as this to enable controlled communications between knowledgeable potential users and Intel product development - as an integral part of the product development process and well before product launch. For example Microsoft provided Amir to this forum as a liasion here (with appropriate disclaimers) for select Microsoft products. Amir was also able to communicate directly with related Microsoft partners such as Toshiba. I for one would feel reassured if I new first hand that Intel had direct partner relationships with the Cyberlink PDVD and Arcsoft TMT teams - if Intel's G45 HTPC success depends in part upon successful use of these 3rd party products.

Best wishes for a successful G45 and related products. I plan to purchase at least 3 motherboards using this innovative technology.
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Originally Posted by archibael View Post

Sorry. After the G45's review at Extremetech we decided a press blackout was in order and asked AVS to delete all of the information posted since its debut. AVS was a bit overzealous.

post #176 of 2570
Pardon my ignorance, but could someone explain what is meant by the press blackout and why posts were deleted? There was some useful information in there!
post #177 of 2570
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Originally Posted by bondisdead View Post

Pardon my ignorance, but could someone explain what is meant by the press blackout and why posts were deleted? There was some useful information in there!

It was a joke... there was a large data loss on AVS forum and they restored to a backup that lost MANY posts. Over a weeks worth of posts are gone forever it seems...

Don't feel bad, I didn't get the joke at first either, but I happened to see the sticky at the top of the forum about the data loss before I posted.
post #178 of 2570
I probably won't be viewing much 1080i, but was planning on using the motherboard not only as a blu-ray player but as an ATSC DVR where 1080i is part of the standard. However from what I read terrestrial HD ATSC is broadcast 720p in practice, not 1080i.
post #179 of 2570
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Originally Posted by EskimoPie View Post

It was a joke... there was a large data loss on AVS forum and they restored to a backup that lost MANY posts. Over a weeks worth of posts are gone forever it seems...

Don't feel bad, I didn't get the joke at first either, but I happened to see the sticky at the top of the forum about the data loss before I posted.

Guess I was slow this morning! I was looking at the top of the thread, not the top of the forum. I see it now. Thanks!
post #180 of 2570
I have been using a G33 IGP with Vista MediaCenter and lots of the stuff I record is 1080i ATSC broadcasts.... I watch on a 110" screen from a Mitsubishi 720p DLP pj and see no issues with de-interlacing.... I think you guys are making too much of a non-issue...

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