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post #661 of 2570
were you using TMT?
post #662 of 2570
No. Did not use TMT. Just used Powerdvd. Cpu pegged at 100%. I dont see the use in spending more money on various player software.
post #663 of 2570
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Originally Posted by r1178s View Post

No. Did not use TMT. Just used Powerdvd. Cpu pegged at 100%. I dont see the use in spending more money on various player software.

TMT has a free trial
worth checking it out
post #664 of 2570
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Originally Posted by r1178s View Post

I dont know about you folks i've had it with intel. Picked up this board at frys, loaded my quad core q6600 and 4gb of ram. assembled my coponents along with my blu-ray along and powerdvd that came with the board. made all the necessary bios changes. Finally Popped in a movie and I get worse stutter than I had with my dg965ot and the x3000 graphics. How in the world can intel call this progress? What a pos.

Just for the record. I installed my antiquated ati hd2400pro and no stutter at all. I cant believe i fell for their bs line again. I swore with the dg965ot that i would not buy an intel product again but this board had such promise that i just had to get one.

sorry for the rant...

I feel fortunate. I have been watching Blu-ray on this thing since the day I got it with no stutter, not even once. Im running a Core2Duo and 2gigs Adata ram using WinDVD to view movies. This system is also having to run my complete Home Automation System (lights, cameras, sensors, touchpanels, etc.) which i dedicated a core too. So the Blu-ray is only running on one core. So given the circumstances I would say this board is doing incredibly well.

Yeah, its no SuperStar and I do own a number of systems that could blow it out of the water, but none I would be willing to use as my HTPC for power, noise, and size issues.
post #665 of 2570
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Originally Posted by DynamicHomeTech View Post

I got the same CIR. It is the best looking for a streamed line approach. Nothing outside the box. Once its Enabled in the BIOS worked like a charm. I used my Nevo Q70 with it today. Does everything I could want. I won't be using the transmitter though.

I would like to use the same CIR front panel but I am having a hard time finding a nice HTPC case where I can install it.
Any suggestion?
post #666 of 2570
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Originally Posted by aslg View Post

I would like to use the same CIR front panel but I am having a hard time finding a nice HTPC case where I can install it.
Any suggestion?


I got tired of the traditional horizontal HTPC cases and am using this case for my build.


http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product...25&ss_index=62

It should be pretty quiet, but I bought these as well to make sure.

http://www.quietpc.com/gb-en-gbp/pro...ials/ap-blocks
http://www.quietpc.com/gb-en-gbp/pro...s/afm02b-group
http://www.acoustiproducts.com/en/ac...k-ultimate.asp
http://www.quietpc.com/gb-en-gbp/pro.../s-flex1201200
http://www.petrastechshop.com/14yalod1cafa.html
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=20650
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=p...s_id=18&lng=en
post #667 of 2570
Temperature question:

I am new to Intel MB/Processors, I just assembly this board, no OS installed, in the BIOS the processor temp shows 45 Degrees C at idle, my AMD, AM2 5400, runs at around 34-37 Degrees, is this a regular temperature?, should it be a concern?, I had a hard time installing the OEM Intel fan with those push in pins, I pulled gently on the heatsink/fan assemble and it seems attached good, to lateral rocking. Another questions is what means ICH temperature in the Hardware Monitoring.

Luis
post #668 of 2570
I just put my BOXDG45ID and Q6600 together last night. My CPU temp readings are the same as yours. I also felt a little weird when connecting the stock CPU heatsink and fan. XP is running well though, no problems in performance.

Boy, what a pain in the ass to get XP installed. XP SP1 cd wouldn't install with my combo. I kept getting irql_not_less_or_equal errors. I had to slipstream SP3 into my SP1 CD. Then install the OS. Things are going well for me so far. Except I can't play BD's at all in powerDVD. I get the error of incompatible graphics driver.

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Originally Posted by lubama View Post

Temperature question:

I am new to Intel MB/Processors, I just assembly this board, no OS installed, in the BIOS the processor temp shows 45 Degrees C at idle, my AMD, AM2 5400, runs at around 34-37 Degrees, is this a regular temperature?, should it be a concern?, I had a hard time installing the OEM Intel fan with those push in pins, I pulled gently on the heatsink/fan assemble and it seems attached good, to lateral rocking. Another questions is what means ICH temperature in the Hardware Monitoring.

Luis
post #669 of 2570
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Originally Posted by lubama View Post

Temperature question:

I am new to Intel MB/Processors, I just assembly this board, no OS installed, in the BIOS the processor temp shows 45 Degrees C at idle, my AMD, AM2 5400, runs at around 34-37 Degrees, is this a regular temperature?, should it be a concern?, I had a hard time installing the OEM Intel fan with those push in pins, I pulled gently on the heatsink/fan assemble and it seems attached good, to lateral rocking. Another questions is what means ICH temperature in the Hardware Monitoring.

Luis

Nah... I wouldn't get worried until it's pushing 60.
post #670 of 2570
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Originally Posted by archibael View Post

Regardless, you can playback anything you want over HDMI or VGA as long as your software app agrees to play it. In the case of the commercial Blu-ray playback applications, evidently they are checking for a driver which is considered to be protective of content in XP, and since Intel is not providing one they deliver an error.


From what I have now encountered this is absolutely correct. The DG45ID will not play back retail BD/HD-DVD movies in XP with PowerDVD using VGA or HDMI/DVI. An error is received that complains about incompatible graphics drivers. I guess at this point my only option if I want to play back HD-DVD and BD is to upgrade to Vista. What a shame, Intel has really disapppointed me.
post #671 of 2570
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Originally Posted by lubama View Post

Temperature question:

I am new to Intel MB/Processors, I just assembly this board, no OS installed, in the BIOS the processor temp shows 45 Degrees C at idle, my AMD, AM2 5400, runs at around 34-37 Degrees, is this a regular temperature?, should it be a concern?, I had a hard time installing the OEM Intel fan with those push in pins, I pulled gently on the heatsink/fan assemble and it seems attached good, to lateral rocking. Another questions is what means ICH temperature in the Hardware Monitoring.

Luis

That temperature is perfectly normal. It says somewhere that it has a minimum displayed temperature, and this is what you are encountering I believe. It should always display this minimum temp until it rises above it at which time actual temperature readings will be displayed. The ICH is the chipset temperature.
post #672 of 2570
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Originally Posted by Cockroach View Post

64-bit will give you problems with drivers and compatibility. Filters and media apps are all 32-bit so all you'll get is headaches from going 64-bit. If this is purely a HTPC, there is no advantage of either 64-bit or 8GB RAM. If you wan't to use it for other things where it does benefit you, then that's different.

This is a misconception, maybe a year or four ago it was a problem but I've been running my HTPC with Vista x64 for the last year with zero driver or program issues. Also my setup runs better with 4GB of ram then 2GB, also I like to play the occasional game
post #673 of 2570
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Originally Posted by DynamicHomeTech View Post

I feel fortunate. I have been watching Blu-ray on this thing since the day I got it with no stutter, not even once. Im running a Core2Duo and 2gigs Adata ram using WinDVD to view movies. This system is also having to run my complete Home Automation System (lights, cameras, sensors, touchpanels, etc.) which i dedicated a core too. So the Blu-ray is only running on one core. So given the circumstances I would say this board is doing incredibly well.

Yeah, its no SuperStar and I do own a number of systems that could blow it out of the water, but none I would be willing to use as my HTPC for power, noise, and size issues.

Agreed. I think that Intel is being blamed by some for problems that are out of their control in many cases. IMO, this board should be used where it obviously is designed to be 'fitted' - i.e. Into a modern up to date Home Theatre environment, connected to HDCP compliant HDMI equipment with multi channel sound output. (Yes, I know we can debate all the problems with repeaters, 24p and de-rated sound output but those things can/will be fixed in the future).

A good experience, today, can be had with this MB by using the right components (eg recommended 1.8v RAM), setting the PAVP to 'Lite' and leaving the rest of the BIOS alone. Install Vista, accept that Blu-ray is here to stay, and use one of the latest up to date HD software players and it all works very well if you plug it into up to date HDCP + HDMI equipment as it is intended.

I have only had one driver install glitch (cause unknown and rectified with a reinstall) with this board to date and it continues to be a stable, enjoyable and dependable addition to my home theatre experience.

Once again, in my opinion, I don't think XP, HD-DVD, VGA, Component, S-Video and Stereo are terms that should be associated with this motherboard. It is an up to date solution to a rapidly changing home entertainment environment - you simply have to keep up.

Maybe time for me to run and hide now.
post #674 of 2570
I received my replacement board from Intel yesterday and will be trying this build again soon. For those of you who have had success with it, did you leave the video memory at 128 or change to 256 in the BIOS?
post #675 of 2570
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Originally Posted by Steve52 View Post

I received my replacement board from Intel yesterday and will be trying this build again soon. For those of you who have had success with it, did you leave the video memory at 128 or change to 256 in the BIOS?

I have mine set at 256
post #676 of 2570
Thank you all for your responses, this forum is great, I spend a lot of time here and is a very good learning tool.
The ICH temp was showing 67c, I installed a fan on the side blowing in, not to far from the chipset and the temp went down to about 53c. I guess the temps are not and issue for me.
I installed Vista Ultimate yesterday, before having to run to my granddaughter birthday party, installed without a problem, had enough time to pop a DVD in and the movie looked good, I am going to do some more testings today, I don't have a Bluray player yet because we have a PS3 although eventually I am going too install one.
I don't know if I should update the BIOS and all drivers listed on Intel for this board
To Kwahatad do not run and hide you are very, very right

Luis
post #677 of 2570
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Originally Posted by Steve52 View Post

I received my replacement board from Intel yesterday and will be trying this build again soon. For those of you who have had success with it, did you leave the video memory at 128 or change to 256 in the BIOS?

If you're using Vista, it makes no difference.
post #678 of 2570
I can't seem to use exclusive mode in Vista. I have Vista business. Can't find the setting in control panel. When I choose sound and HDMI I can't find it anywhere.
What should my settings be to get the best sound?
I'm using a Onkyo 875, but when I play Blu-ray movies it just says "Multi ch" on Onkyo display and not LPCM. Have set it to 5.1 in configuration for HDMI and PCM in Powerdvd.
I really need help to get best sound settings!
post #679 of 2570
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Originally Posted by Sizam View Post

This is a misconception, maybe a year or four ago it was a problem but I've been running my HTPC with Vista x64 for the last year with zero driver or program issues. Also my setup runs better with 4GB of ram then 2GB, also I like to play the occasional game

Sorry, I was just quoting the information I was advised with from another forum. Also, I was speaking to a friend on playing a high bitrate H.264 MKV and said he should use MPC-HC with PDVD filter. When he went to add the filter, there were practically none to choose from, and certainly no Cyberlink ones. Turns out he was using the 64bit version of MPC-HC. That's one headache you wouldn't have got using 32-bit Vista.
I guess maybe using x64 isn't an issue and can work fine, but all the software is 32-bit anyway...?
post #680 of 2570
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Originally Posted by Cockroach View Post

Sorry, I was just quoting the information I was advised with from another forum. Also, I was speaking to a friend on playing a high bitrate H.264 MKV and said he should use MPC-HC with PDVD filter. When he went to add the filter, there were practically none to choose from, and certainly no Cyberlink ones. Turns out he was using the 64bit version of MPC-HC. That's one headache you wouldn't have got using 32-bit Vista.
I guess maybe using x64 isn't an issue and can work fine, but all the software is 32-bit anyway...?

You gain nothing but access to about 1GB of memory. That's it. It's not worth it.
post #681 of 2570
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Originally Posted by r1178s View Post

No. Did not use TMT. Just used Powerdvd. Cpu pegged at 100%. I dont see the use in spending more money on various player software.

Open Task manager without any programs running and check your CPU usage. My bet is it will be 50 to 60%.
What Intel Video Driver version are you running?
Your CPU usage will be high do to an Intel .exe file that is running.
Read my post #357:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...057809&page=12
post #682 of 2570
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Originally Posted by tsb View Post

Thanks a lot guys. I've got one on order now. I was going to go Asus, but the CIR headers and the extra fan header sealed the deal for the Intel. I've decided to pair it with the new Lian Li PC-7F. http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product...25&ss_index=62 I just hope the 14cm fan gives me quiet operation. There just aren't many choices out there for 14cm fans. Given their recent rise to popularity I'm sure we'll have some good choices soon, but until then all I have to choose from are the stock fan and the Yate Loon. I just love the features of this case for the price, and I tire of the horizontal HTPC cases I've used recently.

Tsb,
are you sure about the extra fan header in the Intel board?
I checked the manuals and I understood that both the Intel and the Asus boards have 3 fan headers. Did I miss something?
post #683 of 2570
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Originally Posted by DynamicHomeTech View Post

I feel fortunate. I have been watching Blu-ray on this thing since the day I got it with no stutter, not even once. Im running a Core2Duo and 2gigs Adata ram using WinDVD to view movies. This system is also having to run my complete Home Automation System (lights, cameras, sensors, touchpanels, etc.) which i dedicated a core too. So the Blu-ray is only running on one core. So given the circumstances I would say this board is doing incredibly well.

Yeah, its no SuperStar and I do own a number of systems that could blow it out of the water, but none I would be willing to use as my HTPC for power, noise, and size issues.

Hi Terry, I have basically the same set up Core2 Duo, mine is an E7200, I also have Adata 2 gigs, I installed Vista Ultimate, I don't have automation system, my goal is to watch DVDs from my hardrive and recorded TV, and in the near future install a bluray player, since your system is in a good working condition, I wonder if you can post the programs and or codecs I should install, I don't want to start installing a bunch of programs that are just going to take space and do nothing.
Thanks in advance
Luis
post #684 of 2570
The punchline: Use of the G45 as a desktop is UTTER CRAP when driving a monitor HDMI->HDMI with text haloed, smeared ghosted, blurred and in general headache inducing. Over DVI->HDMI works great. Some automagically self-configuring DNR of some sort perhaps?

The longer story: I got my components Friday and have set up the box. The thing is intended to eventually be my HTPC front end, but that will wait until a linux distro supports the G45 (fedora alpha won't cut it; my primary requirement is a pristine mythtv frontend; Netflix Instant & BD/HD-TV over the network the 2ndary one). For the curious (and I know you're lurking on this forum) The components are the Intel DG45ID, Antec Fusion v2, E8500, Ninja Scythe Mini running passive, 2x2GB Mushkin (capable of fast but running at 5-5-5-18 at the moment), Velociraptor, Pioneer SATA DVD burner, XP3; output to a 24" Westinghouse 1920x1200 LCD (MVA IIRC). Quiet and a nice performer so far.

I stated my usual install routine and noticed crap text. Trying to tune cleartype was an exercise in futility. Poking around the intel graphics utility suggested nothing useful. STFW nothing useful. Update intel graphics driver text is starting to give me a migraine. Just for chuckles attach the DVI to the mobo into the same HDMI in the westinghouse LCD monitor. Bingo. Instant joy.

I'll try to post before and after pictures if requested.

Some of y'all out there with the measurebator diagnostic software might want to do an A/B with HDMI vs DVI.

Also of note, the AMD/ATI 780G chipset with the HDMI output does not have the smearing "feature"
post #685 of 2570
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Originally Posted by aslg View Post

Tsb,
are you sure about the extra fan header in the Intel board?
I checked the manuals and I understood that both the Intel and the Asus boards have 3 fan headers. Did I miss something?

the other fan header on the asus is for the PSU fan
might work the same though
post #686 of 2570
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Use of the G45 as a desktop is UTTER CRAP when driving a monitor HDMI->HDMI with text haloed, smeared ghosted, blurred and in general headache inducing.

No such problems here.... sounds like you have some sort of scaling going on.... if this was common, it would have been posted about before...

post #687 of 2570
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Originally Posted by tsb View Post

the other fan header on the asus is for the PSU fan
might work the same though


Can you guys see these fans in speedfan? It doesn't come back reporting on *any* fans.
post #688 of 2570
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Originally Posted by liels View Post

The punchline: Use of the G45 as a desktop is UTTER CRAP when driving a monitor HDMI->HDMI with text haloed, smeared ghosted, blurred and in general headache inducing. Over DVI->HDMI works great. Some automagically self-configuring DNR of some sort perhaps?

I have a 24" Acer monitor that runs at the same resolution. I was tinkering around and when it was set to 1920X1080, I got the same situation you described. Could it be possible with you using hdmi that the resolution got set to 1080 and you didn't notice? Might be worth checking.
post #689 of 2570
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Originally Posted by Bjur View Post

I can't seem to use exclusive mode in Vista. I have Vista business. Can't find the setting in control panel. When I choose sound and HDMI I can't find it anywhere.
What should my settings be to get the best sound?
I'm using a Onkyo 875, but when I play Blu-ray movies it just says "Multi ch" on Onkyo display and not LPCM. Have set it to 5.1 in configuration for HDMI and PCM in Powerdvd.
I really need help to get best sound settings!

Anyone that have solution how I bitstream and get my display to show LPCM?

I only have a sound option in Vista control panel.

Can it perhaps be because it's business version and no VMC since I can't see the exclusive mode option?
post #690 of 2570
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Originally Posted by johnbe View Post

I have a 24" Acer monitor that runs at the same resolution. I was tinkering around and when it was set to 1920X1080, I got the same situation you described. Could it be possible with you using hdmi that the resolution got set to 1080 and you didn't notice? Might be worth checking.

No, it was (and is) set to 1920x1200; The lines were a sharp 1 pixel wide, just black was sometimes red and edges had halos etc. To see if changing the resolution helped I tried other widescreen resolutions and they had the shift problem AND scaling uglyness (and the driver warned of non-native resolution when I did).

Update: It seems the POST screen only works HDMI->HDMI; DVI->HDMI leaves a blank screen (not good when trying to install aforementioned Fedora 10 alpha).
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