Bluray Player Audio Support Comparison Chart

Link to original thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=980672

Thanks to all who offered to help

Sticky

please note the chart has not been updated for several months: this new thread was created so the chart can be updated: it will take some time: please help the OP with any recommendations to update it

Is this still accurate? For example, Shouldn't the Denon DVD-3800 be "complete" processing across the board?

Got a love that PS3 for the money and what it can do

Panasonic BD50....availability "Now"

Thanks for taking this on Tony.

MSRP is also $699, not $599.

No, it is correct as shown. As a 3800 owner, I asked the OP to correct since it does NOT do complete decoding (it will bitstream all). The 3800 DOES NOT decode DTS-HD HR or DD+.

adidino, people from the Panasonic BD50 thread are reporting having to lower their speakers by about 5 dB. The LFE bug wouldn't be so unique if it weren't for the fact that at least one report was for the analog out!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post14316474

OP,

Please update Samsung BD-UP5000 as follows:

DD+ complete
TrueHD complete
DTS-HD HR bitstream
DTS-HD MA bitstream
BD Profile 1.1

via latest firmware 1.3 update.

MSRP is now about $449 but it is now discountinued.
Thanks.

EDIT:Samsung BD-P1500 does not have analog 5.1 output.Only 2.0 stereo.

Tony and Mark, thanks for keeping this thread alive. I know many in AVS know exactly what they want and those who don't can post here for confirmation. There's a lot of misinformation out there and probably none bigger than "the 3800 can decode all; it's expensive enough!"

The image is a .png file which appears to be an open source file that is supported by a number of photo imaging software programs.
(http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngaped.html)
It cn be opened with ms paint just to change the background colors (the feature in this chart that makes it most appealing). Editing the text, idk...

Speculation. It reads more like personal preference. Lowering the sub 5db is the opposite of LFE.

S~

Sorry, mistake in my post. The guy had to lower his surrounds, not the LFE. Please click the link I provided and read the original post. Make no mistake, it is the LFE bug since he has no opportunity to change it once it gets to his receiver. I will correct my original post.

The one who lowered his surrounds has no speaker management on his receiver. The other person you quoted in the 50 thread lowered his sub because he felt it was too loud. Still speculation since noone else that owns this player has reported LFE. SO it needs to be left out of the chart until something definitive is confirmed.

S~

I'm ok with further confirmation. Are you saying it's the receiver's job to amplify the LFE channel? Once a soundtrack has been decoded and converted to PCM for final output through the analogs, isn't it the source player's job to level all channels for proper output to the receiver? I always thought LFE boost only applied to the bitstream signal.

LFE is recorded -10db. If bass is redirected, it is lowered another 5db. That's how it's sent to the AVR, which needs to boost it back up +10db or +15db right before amplification to get the sub back into balance with the other channels. It doesn't matter where or how the decoding is done. The boost still has to take place and it is best done in the AVR.

There's an excellent explanation here in the Audio theory forum.

Tony - the S350 has stereo analog outputs. No 5.1. Also, there's no reference on the chart to the Pioneer 51FD. Per Pioneer, the 51FD and 05FD will not decode DTS-HD HR and DTS-MA at release. Advanced DTS decoding will have to wait for a firmware update.

I believe the original poster used a spreadsheet program to create the chart, and then converted it to a png somehow.

The Sony BDP-S350 only has 2 channel analog out.

Nice Job!

The Samsung 1500 is not discontinued and decoded True-HD out of the box. MSRP is $399 also. While it's 1.1 now, it is 2.0 ready a and they are to releases a firmware update enabling that. Rumoured to be enabling DTS-MA decoding also.

You didn't update BD-UP5000 like I mentioned above in post #11

FYI on another update - Marantz BD8002:

MSRP = 1999
Avail = now

It looks like you accidentally just pasted over the old msrp with the price of the Sony just above it.

This is a great chart, and once you have it updated, it shouldn't be too tough to manage...hopefully.

Thanks for the effort - you do the forum a great service.

Now if only a similar chart was created for the pre/pros.