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post #931 of 7060
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Originally Posted by Chad T View Post

Any word on this?

I believe Josh answered the question re YCC output earlier in the thread i.e. it's been dropped and output is RGB only. My guess is the HDMI level is not a user selectable option but I'm sure Josh will clarify.

D
post #932 of 7060
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Originally Posted by dazzerxxx View Post

I believe Josh answered the question re YCC output earlier in the thread i.e. it's been dropped and output is RGB only. My guess is the HDMI level is not a user selectable option but I'm sure Josh will clarify.

D

Thanks. Interesting to note that I was reading the Amazon specs page and ran across this:

"One HDMI Audio/Video Output (For Display Connection)

* Backwards compatible with DVI displays
* Configurable for YCbCr or RGB"


I don't believe I've seen that elsewhere so maybe it is an old spec that was dropped.
post #933 of 7060
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Originally Posted by Chad T View Post

Thanks. Interesting to note that I was reading the Amazon specs page and ran across this:

"One HDMI Audio/Video Output (For Display Connection)

* Backwards compatible with DVI displays
* Configurable for YCbCr or RGB"


I don't believe I've seen that elsewhere so maybe it is an old spec that was dropped.

Configurable color space has been dropped. This was confirmed by Josh in post #828. I beleive the first post was edited to reflect this change. There is now answer yet to post #831 regarding wich color space is actually used.
post #934 of 7060
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Originally Posted by M_N View Post

Configurable color space has been dropped. This was confirmed by Josh in post #828. I beleive the first post was edited to reflect this change. There is now answer yet to post #831 regarding wich color space is actually used.

Wow, that seems like a mistake IMO. Maybe the beta testers will push to get that feature added back in (hopefully).
post #935 of 7060
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Originally Posted by Chad T View Post

Wow, that seems like a mistake IMO. Maybe the beta testers will push to get that feature added back in (hopefully).

I woudn't hold out too much hope.

D
post #936 of 7060
My VP50pro will only output RGB to my Samsung sets and the picture is superb post calibration on my LED DLP.
post #937 of 7060
Here is a video of Josh speaking with a HTF guy about the EDGE and a small piece on the new Oppo BD player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLLi7OieX94
post #938 of 7060
I think the point is that mixing and matching video and PC levels can present real challenges in getting proper calibration for all your components. My Lumagen allows for setting each input as PC or video level, and so can the output. That provides a lot of flexibility. The problem is that my Lumagen HDP is DVI only.
post #939 of 7060
Is there a comparable product to the Edge in the sound processor world? A unit that just does the latest sound codecs to mate with the edge for a powerhouse AV processing combo? What would ya'll mate the Edge with, I'd rather not have to spend more money on a unit that does both AV if I were to pick up the edge first. Right now I have nothing.
post #940 of 7060
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Originally Posted by chasintrane View Post

Is there a comparable product to the Edge in the sound processor world?...

Something like Cary IIa is probably what you're after.
post #941 of 7060
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Originally Posted by chasintrane View Post

Is there a comparable product to the Edge in the sound processor world? A unit that just does the latest sound codecs to mate with the edge for a powerhouse AV processing combo? What would ya'll mate the Edge with, I'd rather not have to spend more money on a unit that does both AV if I were to pick up the edge first. Right now I have nothing.

For utilizing the latest codecs, the Integra 9.8(9.9) or its clone the Onkyo Pro 885 (886) are the last word in surround processors right now.
Incredible performance value.
post #942 of 7060
A codec is a codec. Just chips a processor has or it doesn't. Look for what a processor does the output (decode).
post #943 of 7060
Just wanted to thank everyone for voicing their questions, concerns, opinions and info regarding the Edge. Especially posting the youtube video where Josh was talking about the Edge and Oppo's BD player. I saw it while reading up on Oppo's new offering. The video got me to thinking about how I was planning to rebuild my HT setup (my old setup was just before DTS days to give you a clue). Originally, I was planning on using the video processing abilities based in some of the AV Receivers available today, but was discouraged by the reports of them being lacking. Watching the DVDO video picqued my interest in the edge. I read up on it in this thread, and then I saw that there was a powerbuy pre-order on it. I'm pleased to say (for now), that I pulled the trigger on the Edge today (before the 4 PM eastern time). I've never gotten into HT as deeply as going to a video processor, until now. It opens up the possibilities of which AV Receiver to choose (That's much more complicated now, and if anyone has suggestions for a 7.1 setup, approx 130W/channel +/- 20W, plays all the DD / DTS standards, ease of use, good customer sppt, hopefully under $1,400, I don't need bleeding edge, etc . . . please PM me, as I don't want to derail this thread).

Anyway, I'm looking foward to getting this unit and eventually an AV Reciever to match up with.

T
post #944 of 7060
[quote=KuroNeko;14371526]Josh, a question about the EDGE and its deinterlacing capabilities if I may, hopefully you have some useful information.

Add to this that I purchase my discs in France (PAL standard), which have been transcoded from NTSC to PAL to result in a right mess for any deinterlacer to get through.

I was advised to buy the latest Oppo DVD player, which uses an ABT chipset, but then I read it has some problems with PAL discs in general.

How do you expect the EDGE to handle this kind of material? Is it an option for me to look at?

Hi Kuro
I have an Oppo 983. All my DVD's are PAL (region 1,2 & 4). No problems at all. Brilliant picture.
post #945 of 7060
Very few disks get transcoded from NTSC to PAL. The only one I know of is S1 of "The Wire" (according to dvdcompare.net)
post #946 of 7060
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Originally Posted by BENN0 View Post

Very few disks get transcoded from NTSC to PAL. The only one I know of is S1 of "The Wire" (according to dvdcompare.net)

I don't know about live-action films and TV series, but nearly all PAL anime releases are converted from NTSC. Probably a good bit of US animation releases as well.

edit: The original post (#214) shows that the author was indeed referring to anime. I have a couple NTSC to PAL conversions myself, and I don't think there's much hope in reconstructing the original film frames, but if the Edge's performance is anything like the VP50Pro's, it makes them fairly watchable, although I haven't checked out more than an episode or two.
post #947 of 7060
I stand corrected. I wasn't aware that it was common for this type of releases to be taken from an NTSC master instead of recreating the release for PAL from the original master.
post #948 of 7060
Yeah, unfortunately anime is all too often treated like the niche it is. There are ones given proper PAL transfers like the first few volumes of Ghost In the Shell Standalone Complex, but they apparently decided it wasn't worth the effort and started doing NTSC to PAL conversions midway through the series.
post #949 of 7060
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Originally Posted by Tiwaz View Post

Just wanted to thank everyone for voicing their questions, concerns, opinions and info regarding the Edge. Especially posting the youtube video where Josh was talking about the Edge and Oppo's BD player. I saw it while reading up on Oppo's new offering. The video got me to thinking about how I was planning to rebuild my HT setup (my old setup was just before DTS days to give you a clue). Originally, I was planning on using the video processing abilities based in some of the AV Receivers available today, but was discouraged by the reports of them being lacking. Watching the DVDO video picqued my interest in the edge. I read up on it in this thread, and then I saw that there was a powerbuy pre-order on it. I'm pleased to say (for now), that I pulled the trigger on the Edge today (before the 4 PM eastern time). I've never gotten into HT as deeply as going to a video processor, until now. It opens up the possibilities of which AV Receiver to choose (That's much more complicated now, and if anyone has suggestions for a 7.1 setup, approx 130W/channel +/- 20W, plays all the DD / DTS standards, ease of use, good customer sppt, hopefully under $1,400, I don't need bleeding edge, etc . . . please PM me, as I don't want to derail this thread).

Anyway, I'm looking foward to getting this unit and eventually an AV Reciever to match up with.

T

I am also looking for a new receiver to pair with an EDGE and am leaning heavily towards a Marantz SR7002. If you have interest in using the receiver for music in addition to movies/tv, Marantz has a reputation for being highly musical. It is available direct from AVS for a good price.
post #950 of 7060
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Originally Posted by jd213 View Post

Yeah, unfortunately anime is all too often treated like the niche it is. There are ones given proper PAL transfers like the first few volumes of Ghost In the Shell Standalone Complex, but they apparently decided it wasn't worth the effort and started doing NTSC to PAL conversions midway through the series.

I believe that the opposite is also true. I recently bought the R1 release of Spaced and think the PQ is about the same as my PAL versions when scaled to my television. The horizontal scrolling credits are really jerky.

I have gone out of my way to buy the PAL versions of the very short list of PAL mastered anime and will say that a couple of the Optimum releases look really nice.

My collection of BBC and Channel 4 DVDs which was a major deciding factor for me to buy a DVDO. When it was time to buy a HDMI receiver the AQ capabilities over PQ became a strong factor. I decided to go with the Pionner Elite since it seemed to score very well with 7.1 audio tests but only did mediocre on the DCDI video powered video tests.
post #951 of 7060
I bought my VP30 back when it was the top dawg at Anchor Bay before the 50 and 50pro hit. I was going to trade up for the 50pro since its a true 1080p scaler with 1080i de-interlacing for my HD80 PJ. So I guess its safe to say I should upgrade downgrade to the Edge. I know you can't trade it in for it but I would have no problem selling it for $600. Would this be a good move?

Steve
post #952 of 7060
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Originally Posted by Maolq View Post

I am also looking for a new receiver to pair with an EDGE and am leaning heavily towards a Marantz SR7002. If you have interest in using the receiver for music in addition to movies/tv, Marantz has a reputation for being highly musical. It is available direct from AVS for a good price.

Whoa, That is an option I wasn't looking at. The options have broadened severly since I decided to buy the Edge. Thank you very much for the insight. I do enjoy music a lot (I used to play in a Jazz Quartet).

Thanks Again ,

T
post #953 of 7060
Hmmm...just noticed the AVS pre-order deal expired.
Guess I'll wait for the Edge 2.
post #954 of 7060
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Hmmm...just noticed the AVS pre-order deal expired.
Guess I'll wait for the Edge 2.

post #955 of 7060
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Originally Posted by Steve Carr View Post

I bought my VP30 back when it was the top dawg at Anchor Bay before the 50 and 50pro hit. I was going to trade up for the 50pro since its a true 1080p scaler with 1080i de-interlacing for my HD80 PJ. So I guess its safe to say I should upgrade downgrade to the Edge. I know you can't trade it in for it but I would have no problem selling it for $600. Would this be a good move?

Steve

it really depends, Steve....do you need all the output options of the 30/50/pro? No way you can send 960p/72 to your pj with the Edge. If that isn't high on your list of priorities, then yes, the Edge may be a good choice.

or, in other words, if the limitations of the Edge aren't limitations in your setup, then by all means, grab one.
post #956 of 7060
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Hmmm...just noticed the AVS pre-order deal expired.
Guess I'll wait for the Edge 2.

many posts/pages back, someone referred to the edge in an excited manner, writing it something like this:

"the edge !!"

then later, someone else referred to the edge as the 'edge 2' or 'II'; point being i just wonder if the exclamation points had been mistaken for the roman numerals II. because, afaik, there is no edge 2 being discussed here. yet.

anyway, just wondering.
post #957 of 7060
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Originally Posted by westgate View Post

many posts/pages back, someone referred to the edge in an excited manner, writing it something like this:

"the edge !!"

then later, someone else referred to the edge as the 'edge 2' or 'II'; point being i just wonder if the exclamation points had been mistaken for the roman numerals II. because, afaik, there is no edge 2 being discussed here. yet.

anyway, just wondering.

I think OINK was simply sayimg since the preorder has expired he would wait fo the next version.
post #958 of 7060
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Originally Posted by dlm10541 View Post

I think OINK was simply sayimg since the preorder has expired he would wait fo the next version.

i figured that but its gonna be a long wait for the next version, i would think.
post #959 of 7060
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Originally Posted by westgate View Post

i figured that but its gonna be a long wait for the next version, i would think.

I would imagine that when the next interation of the ABT2102 is released, we would see a new Edge (if the product is successful). Hint guys: Please put in at least some of the popular Flat Panel resolutions...Please...Please...Please.
post #960 of 7060
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Originally Posted by jmallory View Post

I would imagine that when the next interation of the ABT2102 is released, we would see a new Edge (if the product is successful). Hint guys: Please put in at least some of the popular Flat Panel resolutions...Please...Please...Please.

And a 24p override/bypass mode.
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