New DVDO EDGE !! - Page 79

There's an Auto feature which communicates with your display and outputs its preferred resolution automatically. Is that what you meant?

What does the question mean?

Does it add black bars where input AR does not match output AR? Yes.
Will it drive a CIH electric masking system? No.
Will it create a light-refractive and sounds absorptive field around your home theater? You know us beta testers can't talk about unreleased features!

what the question means is does it have a blanking feature. example...

The dark knight switches aspect ratios from 2.40 to 1.78, If someone has a 2.40 screen and is using the zoom method with the projector so that the black bars are projected outside of the screen area for a movie, Is it possible to add a blanking feature to the 1.78 part of the movie to crop it to 2.40 like the lumagen scalers can?

Basically can it make a 1.78 movie into a 2.35 movie by croping or blanking?

Thanks thewool. The switching is the least annoying aspect to me. A Harmony would deal nicely with this (the EDGE is already in the Logitech database anyway).

I would play Commodore on a classic tv. The good old days!

Is there some consensus already how disturbing the ringing is in:

a) Games (wii, xbox 360 etc)
b) SD material

As it is a consequence of scaling there would be no ringing with Blu-ray movies and 1080i broadcasts?

It has separable horizontal and vertical zoom. It does not have a memory to make this happen automatically, though. You may be able to set this up via the Panorama feature, but the number of memory locations is one of the most obvious limitations of an $800 VP versus a $4500 VP.

Has anyone made a URC .MXF or .MXD or .WZR file for DVDO edge using the discrete IR codes published HERE by Anchor Bay?

If they include the "secret codes" too that would be awesome!

If you can help, please PM me.

Yes. I've even used codes published by Anchor Bay in places that are not there.


It is!


No PM required! Here you go:
Step 1: Do you have the licensed editor software? If not, then you need to get it.
Step 2: Get the discrete IR codes and program them into your remote.
Step 3: Load the programmed data into your remote.

Seriously, is there an "ask" in there somewhere, or do you communicate in sub-text all the time when you are asking people to violate an NDA? Patience, grasshopper! I'll post my WZR file (MX-810) when the "secret" stuff is no longer secret.

I have an iScan HD and am thinking about upgrading to the Edge. Does the Edge provide any significant improvements over the iScan HD?

Here is my current setup:
Apple MacMini (DVD & DVD over network)
XBox 360
HD TV Comcast cable (EyeTV, HD Homerun)
BenQ PE7800 576p. Will be upgraded to a 1080p projector in 2009 - probably a Panasonic AE3000.

I have been happy with my iScan HD even though I'm not as educated on it as I would like to be.

I did notice that the Edge does not support 1024x576 which is my projectors native resolution. So, looks like it may be best to wait until I upgrade my projector to do the upgrade.

There will never be a "consensus" on the severity of ringing--some people can't see it all (I envy them), while others find it particularly distracting at times.

We all have different vision/expectations so I'm afraid you probably won't get anything approaching a consensus.

I can see it (in games, I don't do SD and I don't scale HD)--wish it wasn't there, but don't find it overly distracting. I'm sure there will be a litany of people posting about how I've got my sharpness turned up or haven't properly calibrated, or that the ringing already exists in the source material.

The EDGE scaling rings. It does. It's not up for debate. HOWEVER, it isn't a show-stoppper for my uses by any means. Not sure that helps you...

Oh C'mon, I was merely trying to avoid re-inventing the wheel! I dont have an edge yet (waiting for exchange rates to improve a bit) and I merely wanted to get the jump on programming my MX-810. I've experimented with the codes for the VP50 (URC haven't updated their DB yet with edge codes) but I suspect they are different?

I provide assistance to folk on the Aussie DTV forums who own URC gear including help "sourcing" the software - Im no n00b! In fact I've been around AVS longer than you, I just dont post as much here.

If you aren't going to be helpful then I suggest you dont post a reply to someone!

Feature Request

One thing I would like to see added to the edge or included in a future DVDO processor, would be a waveform/vector scope display function for being able to calibrate the input signal from various sources.

Just a thought on a rainy Sunday in the Mid-Atlantic.

Incorrect.

Yes, assuming you are using a 1080p display.

Are we getting any closer to a firmware update with added features???Still have the audio drop out once in awhile and the odd time when I first turn on my complete system I see a blue screen and have sound.I have to turn the system back off and on to clear the issue.Might be a handshake issue with my Motorrola cable DVR.Never happens any other time.A minor issue but its there.

When I was speaking to tech support last week, they said a couple of weeks.

According to the forum, I joined early 2005 (lurked for a few years before that) and he joined in early 2006 - Feel free to correct me.

If you weren't such a NOOB you would know.

Bear5K used to be "Ursa" here. The 5K refers to the number of posts at the time of moniker change.

Ursa

Still waiting for my Edge to arrive, picked up a 1080p screen and look forward to hooking the edge up to it> As far as fine detail artifacts are concerned, I found that it's true artifacts are introduced slightly with a 1080p display via Vp-pro. But the overall image is relativly already sharp due to the higher resolution of the display so backing off to lower setting eliminates them.

LOL, let me guess: Ursa minor of hhgttg fame and not the girls name?

I don't know what you mean.

I've been hangin' around this place since '02 and I smiled because I used to follow Ursa posts on calibration. I did know it was Bill.

Crikey, ever heard of "The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy"? "Ursa Minor Beta" is the name of the Planet where Mega Dodo Publications (producers of HHGTTG) were based:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Places_...rsa_Minor_Beta
http://www.earthstar.co.uk/ursa.htm

Book -> http://www.amazon.com/Hitch-Hikers-G...8103584&sr=1-3
Movie -> http://www.amazon.com/Hitchhikers-Gu.../dp/B000KEG938


Anyway, explanations surrounding Bear5k's AVS past are accepted.

PS. Im still not a Noob!

Hi,

I've just added a DVDO Edge to my setup and after cabling everything up I am having issues with HDMI audio out.

My setup is as follows: -

Display Fujitsu P50XHA40US Plasma Connected via HDMI in for video only.
Video Processor/Switch DVDO Edge Firmware V1.00
Yamaha RX-V3800Bi AV Receiver
Toshiba HD-XE1 HD-DVD connected to HDMI 1
Panasonic BD-35 Blu-Ray connected to HDMI 2
Oppo 980HD DVD Player connected to HDMI 3
Cable PVR Optus/Foxtel IQ Pace Box with 160GB Hard Disk connected to Component 1 for video and Optical 1 for audio
Media Centre PC connected to HDMI 4 for video and Optical 2 for audio

I am having issues getting HDMI audio into my AVR using the audio only HDMI output on the Edge to my Yamaha RX-V3800Bi AVR. This happens whatever audio format is passed over HDMI including PCM and bitstream.
Non HDMI audio from the Cable PVR and Media Centre works fine over the HDMI audio only. However, any HDMI audio from my disc players fails to generate audio on the AVR if routed via the Audio Only HDMI output on the Edge.
The only way to get HDMI audio working is to run the HDMI Video/Audio output through my AVR and then on to my display.

Also I have a second issue, when playing back recorded shows from my cable PVR I keep losing sound on my AVR. This happens when the HDMI audio is routed via the Video & Audio HDMI output or the Audio Only HDMI output on the Edge.
When the sound is lost the only way to recover it is by taking the cable PVR to standby mode and then turning it on again and resuming playback.

I would be grateful if you could advise whether there are any solutions for the two problems or if there is newer firmware I could try.

Cheers

Aaron

Well, guess I missed the special this weekend. I didn't get any answers to the questions above and I have had prior experience with Anchor Bay Video Processors. I picked up a VP30 a year and a half ago with the ABT card and tested it out. I could not see much of a difference at the time looking at both DVDs at 480p and output from my cable box at 480i

One of the things that I like about Anchor Bay is that you have a 30 day return window if things don't work out like you hope. Since the Edge is sold through 3rd party retailers, it is not clear whether that 30 day policy is available or not. I don't think that it is.

Too bad though. I can understand that it is much easier to run a demo program on a $2,000 VP than it is to run one on an $800 one, but the problem is that even the $600 special price is too much for me to roll the dice. If I felt that this would make a real, measurable difference, I might try it, but without the ability to return it if it doesn't work, particularly in this economy, I'm going to have to pass.

And yes, I do know that it is an HDMI switcher, but $600 is a bit much to pay for that and my Denon 3808CI seems to do the job nicely right now.

It also conveniently separates my "calibration as a hobby" days from my "calibration as a business" days. And gets rid of the bad Latin grammar. Most Americans know "Ursa Minor" and "Ursa Major". Ursus? Not so much.

No worries. Once a firmware comes out that includes everything in my WZR file, I'll happily post it. Programming the MX-810 is a real PITA. That being said, there have been plenty of requests from people in this thread for stuff that would break a beta tester's NDA, so do understand when you are the nth person in line who wants someone to do that. Oh, yeah, and if you want something, just ask for it straight-out.

So anyone know about the seller on Amazon who is selling it for $599, HD Lifestyle or something?

Kinda weird they have it listed as Edge101E and the MSRP is over $1200? If anyone does know about them, do they offer the 30 day return also? I don't plan on returning though, I love my 983.

My guess is that they did that to stand out from the other DVDO Edge listing. Their retail price amount is out of whack in that listing as well.

The other Amazon listing and several other retailers (including forum sponsors) have that same price.

Well, I had an opportunity to use an EDGE for a little over a week; and count me amongst those who feel the benefits are somewhat unremarkable.

To be fair, I think this is in large part due to having higher end equipment to begin with. It was connected to a Pioneer PDP-5010 plasma display, which has excellent internal processors on its' own. Sources were an SA8300HD cable box An Oppo and an LG BG200 Blu-ray player.

Observations:

I found its up-scaling no better than the Oppo.

Detail and edge enhancement offered minimal, barely noticeable improvements on HD material.

On the high setting it did noticeably reduce mosquito noise on SD material, but a litany of other compression artifacts remain, which on balance, amounted to minimal improvements for SD material. I guess the old adage of lipstick on a pig applies to overly compressed video as well.

There is no noise reduction at all. Surprising, as it actually seemed to introduce a small amount of noise on 720p sources.

No improvement in cadence detection over the PDP-5010. I guess this is an endorsement for the Pioneer, but I was hoping at a minimum to obverse some reduction in judder. That would have been enough for me to keep it.

I have it up on eBay it anyone's interested. PM me for the link. On a lesser panel, I'd imagine the improvements are much more worthwhile.

A_C

The special is still on. The return policy is up to the individual retailer. No mysteries there.

To your questions:
- PC - no help, unless you are AVISynth/FFDShow averse.
- Wii - Not much help, but better than Denon/Samsung (fair disclosure: I've never been a fan of DNIe)
- XBox360 - No help.
- Blu-ray - No help. This is where you really want it to "get out of the way".

EDGE will help best with SD sources that are not current game machines, and do a somewhat better to much better job deinterlacing 1080i broadcast than what is in most people's TVs (much better than most DNIe implementations I've seen). If you are focused solely on Blu-ray and HD/ED games, then EDGE isn't likely to help you much.

Amazon proper and OneCall are also listed.