New DVDO EDGE !! - Page 81

Got it! This is especially true since getting to the "settings" line on the front page varies depending upon what ads Tivo is running (i.e., "channel down" is not reliable here).

One upside for the universal remote crowd is that there is a discrete "standby" for Tivos available.

Back to EDGE.

[quote=AudioBear;14997870]beagle five,

"I have seen what a Flea can do to HD sources but with a limitation. I am still using a Sanyo PLV-70 720p projector. On both DirecTV-HD and HD from my Toshiba XA-2 HD-DVD (with all processing off), the Flea makes a clear difference. Less so on HD-DVD than on HDTV where what it does in amazing. It just looks more real and pops right out, you are right.

The Flea is better than the Edge in this one area. I love the Edge (just got it a couple of days ago). Nice looking and nicely laid out and built. Excellent remote and menus. A class product for sure. It improves many DirecTV pictures, and is especially good at making HD look better (not much you can do with SD but it helps). The Edge does so much more than the Flea there is no comparison--they are two different things. The two together (Flea first) using Flea noise reduction and Edge everything else produces quite a profound difference."

Thanks to all you guys that have commented on the Edge and the Flea in this thread. I had an old analogue Mosquito and really liked what it could do in another situation. I had no idea until reading about the HDMI Flea here how much it could improve HD Broadcasts, and that unfortunately it and the Digital Mosquito had been discontinued.

Take heart.....there's still about 20 left at Algolith in Canada for the last great price mentioned by someone else here earlier also. Contact Michel Forbes. Talk about bang for the buck if you compare the combined retail prices of the digital Mosquito and the VP50 Pro.....you can basically get that same processing performance at the moment for $1200 -1300 while the Fleas last. There are also some digital Mosquitos still available at about 1/3 of their original MSRP as well.

But currently there are no test patterns available. Being available in a future release does nothing right now.

you know that is not entirely true....:-)
Best,
Chris

Bill...

Once the software update arrives, I would love to see you comment on any new features as they relate to use with CalMAN.

So basically what I would be doing would be making my Wii look a bit better and making my cable look a bit better. I do watch a lot of TV but it doesn't look that bad to my on my XBR6. I might be better off just getting a 983H for my DVDs?

I've contacted Octavia support and after doing some tests they think the problem is in the switch and not the EDGE. They are sending me a new firmware for the Octavia switch to solve the no audio problem.

I just tried that, and it works for me. The Edge came on when I turned on a source. I'm not using a universal remote, however. I turned on my DVD with its own remote and the Edge came on as well.

I've also discovered, in my slightly less than one month with it, that best results come when the Edge is fed a progressive signal. This is unfortunate in the sense that now I can't use my DVL-91 to play DVDs, since it's not capable of progressive signals. Hence, it'll be used for LD only; a separate player will be used for DVD. I've yet to do a test of the Edge vs. my Kuro in terms of processing (especially on LD), but I still plan to and then post results.

I also noticed a slightly better pq feeding 576p instead of 576i from my denon 2500bt to the edge...

A tiny bit sharper, and little less stepping on sd sources. I wonder why I see stepping anyhow when abt2010 is involved?? Also fethering.

That has not been solved on the vp50pro either, from what i know?!

I was having color/crushing issues. Both my Pioneer DVL-91 and Marantz DV8400 had the same problem. Using Return of the Jedi as a test, I saw that in the scene of Vader's surprise visit to the Death Star, the stormtroopers' white uniforms were little more than a white blur, with no detail, and crushed big-time; the same for the later scene at the Sarlac pit, where Han Solo's white shirt suffered the same crush, as well as the sand around the pit. Even the LD version of the movie had no such problems. But switching the Marantz to progressive output cleaned it all up quite nicely. No such fortune on the Pioneer, however.

I don't have experience with the VP50 Pro, but it is essentially the same processor from what I understand, so it would be no surprise if the same issues show up there. But the result with progressive input (on this movie anyway) is WAY better to be sure. Feeding Edge a progressive signal enables the PReP feature, which is said to deinterlace content better than most players will; maybe that's the reason.

When feeding an interlaced signal the Edgel deinterlaces it also.

It may infact be some issue with the Edge, but you should always recalibrate when adding new equipment

But PReP is off when an interlaced source is fed to it (at least it is in my setup, according to the input info). It was off for my DV8400 as well, until I changed its output to progressive; PReP was then activated. This might be something to take up with ABT, if what you say is true.

In the Edge what do you have Settings/Output Format set to?

What does Information/Output Format say?

PReP is only active on Progressive signals. It takes the signal and reconstructs the original interlaced signal which is then processed by the EDGE.

...if it does so, the reconstructed interlaced signal can't be better than the original signal......so the original interlaced signal WITHOUT reprocessing must always be better...

...am i wrong ?

No you are mostly right. It will be better or the same.

PReP is useful for a device where say 480i is not available-only480P. Or also for when the original device does a poor job deinterlacing the signal.

Also, some devices have a screwed up 480i output over HDMI and prep to 480p is superior.

post retracted, got my wires well and truly crossed up!

I beg your pardon?

Known issue with syncing to a DVI TV? I have a Hitachi tv at home and it says the source is not HDCP capable. Any ways to make it work? Thanks Andrew

I know nothing. At the point at which I know something, sure.

There used to be a defective DVI splitter made by Dtrovision that took a DVI input and output two DVI signals that were HDCP free. Translation = you take a DVI-HDCP signal and connect it to a non compliant DVI input monitor. They were discontinued when this was discovered. As well they should be because they violated the rules by not requiring a HDCP compliant device.

You might want to look around for one of the "defective" ones. Google Dtrovision--Digital Connection used to sell them. Do some searching in the old AVS forum archives about 5-6 years ago. PM me if you can't find one.

well, hold on a minute: is this even an edge issue?

does your *source* (you don't say what yours is) do HDCP sync *without* the edge in the chain?

as DVDO points out in their FAQ ( http://www.anchorbaytech.com/dvdo_edge/support.php ) "Note that if you have an HDCP source and a non-HDCP display, you will probably not get a picture, whether or not you use EDGE."

you may still have to resort to an "HDCP stripper" "naughty box", whatever you want to call it, i realize, but let's make sure this actually involves the edge.

i say this because i experienced the same thing earlier this week with a DVI blade in the new 11th gen panasonic pro plasma. at first i started asking edge people for help, but then i went back and did the trivial test: can my source (a cable STB) talk to this blade with no edge in the middle? turns out it could not.

So has anyone tried the edge's 24p output capability?> Just like to find out if it works properly and how the image quality is. From what I understand the Edge can ouput 24p from a 60hz source as long as your TV is 24p capable.

The Edge outputs/passes through 24P perfectly for me. Interestingly though, if you feed it a 60P derived from a 24P film and ask it to output 24P, it does not do a perfect job of decoding the 3/2 pulldown. Motion is not smooth but rather un-naturally jerky. Not recommended. Kind of funny actually. You would think that it would be fairly simple to do given the Edge's circuit sophistication. Maybe with a future firmware update.

Yea I question that too.Mind you maybe they make DVD's differently in Australia.This "PREP on PREP off" issue with progressive signals ,,is for me from what I have seen with my set up,Is a questionable benefit if any.I find any progressive signal from my cable digital box which triggers the PREP function ends up with poor picture quality,SD or HD.Unless i turn on Game mode,which baffles me.
Mind you come to think about it when my toshiba HD DVD is playing and outputing at 1080p I have never noticed any issues.Maybe prep does not come on automatically everytime it recieves a progressive signal.I will check next time I play a hd dvd,but I do not believe PREP comes on.

Just checked and prep does not come on with 1080P from my Toshiba hd dvd player and I checked the output from the HD player to confirm.I proably missed something here reading this thread but I thought Prep always came on with any Progressive signal.Maybe only 720p and under??

doh, was tired & got my wires crossed!