New DVDO EDGE !! - Page 101

Originally Posted by Gary J

Depends on their (and your) definition of "highest quality video" and "Dramatically Improves". Your best bet is to buy a returnable unit IMO.

Originally Posted by Gary J

The VP50 is on my HT setup and yes I like it. Yes it is better than the Edge and should be for the cost. It is a lot more customizable for more complex setups.

Originally Posted by Gary J

Again don't expect a whole lot with SD broadcast TV but if you feel confident about the the condition of the VP50 for 200 more I would sure go for it speaking for myself.

Originally Posted by flyingvee

Although.....

with the SXRD, is he going to need the extra features and flexibility of the VP50? and, possibly, could he be better served with an Edge, taking advantage of the MNR and EE, DE?

Originally Posted by bowlbyd

Aaron,

Great advice, the 1:1 Frame rate worked as advertised. Unfortunately, the color space is still coming through as 8 bit and not 12 bit no matter which color space I choose. Do you have the same projector/setup (i.e. PS3) and are you getting 12 bit color?

Thanks again.

Originally Posted by flyingvee

Although.....

with the SXRD, is he going to need the extra features and flexibility of the VP50? and, possibly, could he be better served with an Edge, taking advantage of the MNR and EE, DE?

just throwing that out, since I've pretty much replaced my VP50 with the Edge. The VP50 is primarily being used as a toslink to coax digital audio convertor in my 2nd theater. - really - if I had a 2nd Edge, I'd be using it, for sure, instead of the VP50.

the 50 is far better for custom resolutions and timings - which, afaik, are of prime importance when dealing with CRT pjs...

Me - if I could flog my 50 for a few hundred more than an Edge, shoot - I'd be jumping at it.

My 2 cents - as they say, YMMV.

Originally Posted by Gary J

The VP50 is on my HT setup and yes I like it. Yes it is better than the Edge and should be for the cost. It is a lot more customizable for more complex setups.

Originally Posted by bowlbyd

B&H is great because they have a no hassle return policy and you can contact EDGE directly for technical support.

Originally Posted by Gary J

SD DVD is the sweet spot for these processors and there is some improvement there. For the overly compressed SD broadcast signals the picture is actually worse on my Panasonic 1080p plasma which seems to have better processing than the Edge for these signals. For all HD, broadcast or otherwise, I see no improvement. As I have said before I believe the processing in both sources and displays is getting a lot better these days.

Originally Posted by ghislain

I am seriously considering the Edge myself to get the most out of my sources. However after having read above (and other) statements in this thread I feel unsure to what the benefit would be since the emphasis here is entirely HD - no standard analogue SD TV here anymore.
I guess in the end it all boils down to which device offers the better solution as to deinterlacing and scaling - I feel the PQ is already very good - and therefore it is a different story for every one of us.
Sources here:
BDP-51FD (Blu Ray)
XE1 (XA2 - HD&SD DVD)
ADB-5810CX (SD-HD Cable box)
all connected via HDMI to a calibrated Panasonic TH50PZ70 (1080p).

I do not know what SoC is exactly used in the ADB cable box put PQ wise both Pioneer (propriatary SoC) and Toshiba (Reon) offer outstanding results.
Has anyone been able to determine if there is any improvement in comparable setups with having an Edge in the chain? What do you guys think?

Originally Posted by 02fx4dude

Could you expound on that a bit? Is the VP50 better than the Edge because the scaling/deinterlacing/EE/DE is better on the VP50? Or is the VP50 better because it is more customizable?

Brian

Originally Posted by Maier2505

Hi, Larry !

Yes, it was the same with 1.0...

But 1.1 fixed some audio dropout issues for me.

I would really love to get a manual choice of the deinterlacing mode to try to fix that.

And as the EDGE would still be not able to handle special resolutions, there would still be a significant difference to the VP50...

BTW: I still have trouble to mail to edgesupport@dvdo.com.
As soon as I try to write some more words, the mailbot stops it.

Thank you for giving my problem some thoughts !

Best regards and Merry Christmas !

maier2505

Originally Posted by Gary J

It's a mix. EE/DE, etc. made little difference for me. Scaling has issues in the Edge that can not be fixed because it is in hardware not firmware. To me, the deinterlacing in both is excellent. Yes the VP50 is much more customizable (resolutions per output, etc., check their web site). Again, the VP50 costs a lot more. Much depends on the complexity of your setup and what you want out of a video processor. There is also competition. There is currently one very knowledgeable contributor to this thread playing in another ballpark. There is competition from processors in source devices, displays and even AVRs. The ability to audition a device would be the ideal situation to be in. All just one little IMHO. There are many other, differing opinions. Me - I like my VP50.

Originally Posted by ghislain

Which VP are you referring to when talking about competition?

Originally Posted by 02fx4dude

Is the VP50 better than the Edge because the scaling/deinterlacing/EE/DE is better on the VP50?
Brian

Originally Posted by flyingvee

NO. Anyone who tells you differently is trying to get rid of their old VP50/pro.

Based on my eyes, personal experience, and more importantly, what has been stated from Anchor Bay personnel, the scaling and dl engines are identical between the 50Pro and the Edge. So only differences are in the feature sets, and firmware implementation.

Since it is older, there is one instance where the VP50 is superior to the Edge or VP50 Pro. I'd have to chase thru the threads to find the reference, but its a known Pro bug handling 1080i. (I believe - I'm sure open to correction on this.)

But point is - the hardware is same on all three - the expensive ones simply have more options enabled, while the Edge has the EE and NR of the Pro.
There is NO EE or NR of any shape or form in the VP50. One reason why I jumped on the Edge for 1/3 the money.

If you don't want/need the EE and NR, if you need or want the custom timings - and it is the same money, grab a VP50, and hope it doesn't break - since remember, a new Edge will come with a warranty. With your setup, it seems like an easy choice to make; as Gary states, there are other options, but few at this price point.

Heck - of course there are other players - should Lumagen want to sell me a Radiance for 800 bucks, - duh! But that's so far off point and off topic -

Originally Posted by Scottyman

"Precision Deinterlacing of Standard Definition and High Definition signals to give the highest quality video from all interlaced sources including most cable, satellite and over-the-air broadcasts"

How do connect the Edge with an antenna OTA system?

Originally Posted by Scottyman

"Precision Deinterlacing of Standard Definition and High Definition signals to give the highest quality video from all interlaced sources including most cable, satellite and over-the-air broadcasts"

How do connect the Edge with an antenna OTA system?

Originally Posted by aaronwt

Doesn't your sound processor handle delays? I know my last few receivers had adjustable audio delays. And currently that is how I delay the audio from my components. Although I could do it through the EDGE in my setup if I wanted to.
Otherwise if the processor doesn't have an audio delay, they used to sell a separate device to handle that job.

Originally Posted by Monkey_Man

I'm running a setup with a fixed anamorphic lens (CH). I read that this unit will do the vertical expansion, but what about horizontal squeeze for 4:3 and 16:9 on a fixed A-lens setup on 2.35:1 screen?

Can profiles be created for quick one button aspect ratio control like the lumagen?

My main reason to get this is aspect ratio control or I'm I better of getting a lumagen hdp?