New DVDO EDGE !! - Page 12

I think Josh's post was misleading. I THINK the Edge will output the preferred format when set to AUTO but only one of the half dozen preset output resolutions, and 768p is not one of them.

Is there any point to attaching one of these to a 1080i-only RPTV (component-only, no HDMI), to scale output from my DirectTV HR21 DVR and my DVD player? Or am I better off letting the DVR do the scaling until I eventually upgrade my set to something more current that does 1080p?

I'm guessing no point, since I'm not seeing any component out on the i/o panel in the opening shots.

Actually, my original question was more about the EDGE because it isn't clear to me how flexible it is when set to "auto" format. Specifically, would the EDGE output 'non-standard' resolutions such as 1024x768, 1365x768, 1366x768, 1920x1200, etc., or is it actually locked into 'standard' resolution output only.

Per previous posts the Edge will only output the listed standard resolutions.

Call me crazy, but I read this as meaning that the EDGE can output 1920x1200, which is 'non-standard'

I am confused now too-easy to do

This seems to say a non-standard resolution can be output as long as its reported as the preferred resolution of the display.

I too would like clarification

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Ok so what you need to know is if your TV has all of the proper timing descriptors. Good luck with that one.

Thanks Josh

I think I understand now.

Soooo...if our displays don't communicate this properly (768) would something like a DVI doctor successfully bridge this gap? Or does a DVI doctor rely on the same timing info being "broadcast"? If anyone knows...

Thanks for the clarification Josh.

Would the use of an HDMI to DVI adapter compromise what the display reports to the Edge?

Is anyone with a 1366x768 Panny Pro getting a Beta Unit?

i am interested in getting on the list of potential customers to buy this unit from beta testers if they don't want it. how can i go about doing this? it would be a disservice to all if i were a tester as i have little time. thanks.

Sadly for us in Europe, you'd have to use a DVI EDID emulator to report the right 1366x768 timings then feed the signal into a HDFury or similar in order to get native res @ 50Hz into a commercial Panny (short of a PF9 or PF10) via VGA

So Josh; sorry if this is repeating things ad nauseum but... on my vp50 I don't have to use any Display Profile* in order to achieve this;

HDMI1 input (SkyHD):
576p (PREP on) output at 1080p/50
1080i/50 (PREP irrelevant) also output at 1080p/50

HDMI2 input (DVD):
480p (PREP on) output at 1080p/24
576p (PREP on) output at 1080p/50.

HDMI3 input (HD DVD):
1080i/60 output at 1080p/24

You're saying that the EDGE won't be able to do that and I'd have to manually switch between the 2 principal output resolutions that I use? Albeit with discretes.

* As far as I can see, the only reason, with a single display, to use Display Profiles is if for a single input/res/freq combination you sometimes want to output a different frequency (only example I can think of is if you watch R1 video based DVDs from TV shows where you want 60Hz output instead of 24)

Some noob questions:

1. Most of the content I watch these days is 1080p film or video content on bluray/PS3. Would DVDO provide any benefit to 1080p content like this (my projector does support 24 and 60 source content with a refresh rate 48, 60, etc)? Since there is no deinterlacing, scaling, or frame rate conversion required, is there any added benefit? (Other than the per-input image adjustments)

2. For standard DVD content, would I need to use a player that supports 480i out to get maximum benefit (such as one of the Oppos)? Or does PReP feature mean that dvd content that is dinterlaced by the PS3 can be re-interlaced then de-interlaced by the Edge, obviating the need for a player that supports 480i out? In other words, is there a way to get 1080p/24 from a dvd from the PS3 with the Edge doing all the scaling, deinterlacing, etc.?

Thank you!
Armando

Correct, that's what PReP is for. The only time it wouldn't work is if the PS3 was applying some sort of filtering to the output so that the original 240 lines in each field were altered before being sent in the 480p frame.

Yes

Any chance of getting a AVS group purchase price?

hey guys, is this better than the VintageHD running on HQV Realta chip? A friend of mine who own this claimed that it's making full use of the HQV Realta features.....

and on the other hand.....another friend kept discouraging me from even joining the beta test, coz there is a limit for SD->HD no matter how you scale

What is the return policy for a beta tester on the EDGE if not satisfied with how the unit performs or works with our equipment?

Mr Ian B

I am somewhat unclear on the audio input assignability. Can you double up?

For instance, if I have an inday component switch feeding component #1, can I route 2 opticals, 1 coaxial and 1 stereo pair all to component #1? (component #2 will be taken with RGBHV). I am trying to decide between the Zektor and the Inday, and it seems there is lower loss with the Inday but no audio capabilities. That won't matter if I can perform the above...

Thanks!

edit: only 1 audio source would be live at a time--or perhaps there could be a priority set in the case of multiple signals present?

PLEASE can we have a definitive answer to this.

A related question: When a output is selected, does one select a resolution (e.g. 1080p) or resolution and frequency (e.g. 1080p24)?

Edit: What would happen with a European PS3 which can output 576p50 (for DVD), 1080p24 (for Blu-Ray), and 1080p60 (for games)?

True

but how close to the limit would you like to get?

Having seen dodgy deinterlacing plenty of times and the horrendous ringing you get on (for example) the Panasonic PZ80 when scaling even 720p to 1080p, I'd say £400 is money well spent if this even comes close to the performance of the VP50Pro.

Unless you've got a CRT based display that can handle 1080i well, I'm not sure why you would want to do this? Would it not be better to use (say) 720p if it's a plasma or LCD?

Read the NDA you signed (if you signed it). It clearly tells you this info.

It would be nice if the question could be answered for others who are on the fence about applying, though...

I overlooked it in the form. It says, "By signing this agreement, the User understands that there are no rights to return the product for a full refund."

Mr Ian B

Guess what I have? But only until I ship them out...

Yup...DVDO Edge units...I will start forwarding tracking this evening for those who I have already contacted.

(If you have not been contacted yet hold tight...I'm-a-workin'-on-it. ).