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post #3691 of 6974
3/15/09 at 8:26am
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

part 1...

nope, there's 2 component inputs that can be used...

i'd put it before the pre-pro... hdmi out of the edge to display, spdif out of the edge to pre-pro...

Thanks much for the reply. So that I'm clear, you'd use the EDGE to do the video switching and use the pre-pro only for audio? It makes sense since I'd be able to use the lip sync adjustments this way even though my pre-pro doesn't have HDMI.
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post #3692 of 6974
3/15/09 at 9:12am
Yes you have it correct. You will then someday upgrade to a prepro that has HDMI in and be all set. I use a Cary Cinema11A as my audio processor which has 1.3 HDMI In (A & V, two inputs) along with 8 optical/coaxial/analog. The 11A acts as an Audio Sync, and a video repeater. I feed the 11A audio only on its HDMI input, and drive the Projector directly from the Edge. I believe in seperates to a high degree but within reason. I have a massive 7 channel amp, not mono blocs.

If an input is A/V it goes directly to the Edge. All my A/V sources are either HDMI or component and I use an external component switcher because a have 4 component sources. If an input is Audio only I feed it directly to the Edge, mostly Toslink optical but often duplicate an analog input for zone 2 usage.

The Edge/Cary Cinema 11A is a superb combination providing excellent video processing in the Edge, and superb audio from the 11A.
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post #3693 of 6974
3/15/09 at 1:17pm
I left voicemail and followed up with a detailed email to Larry about some major problems I'm having with my Edge, but when it was working fine I had another problem. I mentioned this in my email also, but thought the community might have thoughts on that part. Here's the relevant portion:

Oh, one more problem, this isn't a new one, this was happening even when everything was working fine, so is probably unrelated. I bought a VGA->RGBHV breakout cable to be able to get my HTPC outputting to the Edge (I used to have a Dwin TV3 projector, which has an outboard scalar, and it had a direct VGA port). The HTPC is set to 720p (1280 x 720 @60Hz) through the nVidia card, but I could not get the Edge to detect any signal whatsoever when I connected it to the Component 2/ RGBHV connectors. Any reason this wouldn't/shouldn't work? This was one of the reasons I bought my Edge, as I needed to have support for all the devices that I had hooked to my previous projector (the Dwin) through its outboard scalars. I didn't worry too much as I haven't yet ceiling-mounted the Planar so still have the Dwin in place, but one I ceiling-mount I'll lose my HTPC output unless I resolve this. Here's the cable I bought (also of course used BNC->RCA adapters on the RGBHV leads):

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
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post #3694 of 6974
3/15/09 at 6:29pm
I am using Time Warner Cable. Problem is with 480i signals.
I checked that the cable box sends 480i. Vertical black bar appear when I select 4:3. Then they disappear within 5 to 10 seconds, and the image is as panorama.
Can someone help?
Thanks
Christian.
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post #3695 of 6974
3/15/09 at 6:33pm
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Originally Posted by cmangeot View Post

I am using Time Warner Cable. Problem is with 480i signals.
I checked that the cable box sends 480i. Vertical black bar appear when I select 4:3. Then they disappear within 5 to 10 seconds, and the image is as panorama.
Can someone help?
Thanks
Christian.

what do you have your display set on? sounds like it could be possible that the edge is outputting 4:3 correctly, and the display is then stretching it...
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post #3696 of 6974
3/15/09 at 7:03pm
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Originally Posted by barrygordon View Post

Yes you have it correct. You will then someday upgrade to a prepro that has HDMI in and be all set. I use a Cary Cinema11A as my audio processor which has 1.3 HDMI In (A & V, two inputs) along with 8 optical/coaxial/analog. The 11A acts as an Audio Sync, and a video repeater. I feed the 11A audio only on its HDMI input, and drive the Projector directly from the Edge. I believe in seperates to a high degree but within reason. I have a massive 7 channel amp, not mono blocs.

If an input is A/V it goes directly to the Edge. All my A/V sources are either HDMI or component and I use an external component switcher because a have 4 component sources. If an input is Audio only I feed it directly to the Edge, mostly Toslink optical but often duplicate an analog input for zone 2 usage.

The Edge/Cary Cinema 11A is a superb combination providing excellent video processing in the Edge, and superb audio from the 11A.

Interesting but I am setting up almost the same setup (still in progress) except with a Halo C2. That doesnt have HDMI in's but I am sending all A/V sound through the Edge to the Halo. Also have some A/V sound going directly to the C2 (just to test) and A/B testing shows absolutely no difference in SQ. So I will probably disconnect that. I have all audio only sound and all analog sound for zone 2 going directly to the Halo.

I have now added a PJ and will be adding a Geffen splitter to feed PJ and TV. Hoping against hopes it works out since native resolution of TV and PJ will undoubtedly be different...
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post #3697 of 6974
3/15/09 at 7:05pm
You are right. Thanks.
I had the problem for a few weeks, since I changed to a Kuro. Just a setting with the Pioneer.
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post #3698 of 6974
3/15/09 at 7:17pm
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Originally Posted by cmangeot View Post

You are right. Thanks.
I had the problem for a few weeks, since I changed to a Kuro. Just a setting with the Pioneer.

glad you got it straightened out...

fwiw, i generally use dot by dot on my kuro, unless there's too much random transmission garbage, in which case i'll use full...
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post #3699 of 6974
3/15/09 at 7:32pm
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

glad you got it straightened out...

fwiw, i generally use dot by dot on my kuro, unless there's too much random transmission garbage, in which case i'll use full...

I was an early adopter of the Sony SXRD and moved to Kuro after the Sony failed. What a difference in display.
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post #3700 of 6974
3/15/09 at 10:42pm
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Originally Posted by Skypalace View Post

I bought a VGA->RGBHV breakout cable to be able to get my HTPC outputting to the Edge... The HTPC is set to 720p (1280 x 720 @60Hz) through the nVidia card, but I could not get the Edge to detect any signal whatsoever when I connected it to the Component 2/ RGBHV connectors. Any reason this wouldn't/shouldn't work?

have you tried outputting different resolutions from the HTPC? are there any known-good timings?

also i'm not sure it matters at all here but i could swear there is some kind of difference between "720p" and "1280 x 720 @ 60 Hz" .
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post #3701 of 6974
3/16/09 at 3:34pm
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Originally Posted by cmangeot View Post

I was an early adopter of the Sony SXRD and moved to Kuro after the Sony failed. What a difference in display.

tell me about it... i went from a jvc d-ila set (that totally blew me away when i got it) to the 150fd and it was like going from my old proscan tube set to the jvc...
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post #3702 of 6974
3/16/09 at 11:48pm
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Originally Posted by stretch437 View Post

have you tried outputting different resolutions from the HTPC? are there any known-good timings?

also i'm not sure it matters at all here but i could swear there is some kind of difference between "720p" and "1280 x 720 @ 60 Hz" .

It's 1280 x 720 x 60Hz, the 720p was my own annotation, nothing I selected in the nVidia driver.

The majority of my problems seem fixed with the firmware update (from 1.1) that Larry sent, awesome!

I can now sync the PC, the whole image is shifted to the right though, like 20 or 30 pixels or so, pan and shrink don't help, Underscan lets me see part but not all of the cutoff right side, but of course applies to all inputs. So I guess I need to see if I can tweak output timings of the nVidia card?
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post #3703 of 6974
3/17/09 at 3:59pm
Received the V1 firmware from Larry @ DVDO. Reinstalled it and now my Edge is back in business. Now that I think about it, those test patterns from V1.1 update might be nice to have...
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post #3704 of 6974
3/18/09 at 7:38am
does anyone have any comparison pictures between an upscaled DVD picture and a normal native 1080 blu/hddvd?

am looking for the best possible upscaling device money can buy
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post #3705 of 6974
3/19/09 at 5:45am
For some reason the color saturation on my most used HDMI input (haven't check the other inputs yet) sometimes jumps to +32 or full negative (-96 I think) after turning the unit on and off via the remote.

Has anyone seen seen something like this before?

I've already disconnected the unit from the mains for a few minutes. Haven't done a reset to defaults or re applying the firmware yet.
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post #3706 of 6974
3/19/09 at 7:18am
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Originally Posted by BENN0 View Post

For some reason the color saturation on my most used HDMI input (haven't check the other inputs yet) sometimes jumps to +32 or full negative (-96 I think) after turning the unit on and off via the remote.

Has anyone seen seen something like this before?

I've already disconnected the unit from the mains for a few minutes. Haven't done a reset to defaults or re applying the firmware yet.

Havent seen that... but I have seen that the audio delay setting is reset to zero after every power cycle.....
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post #3707 of 6974
3/19/09 at 1:22pm
I have an Onkyo TX-SR805 with HDMI out split between a Kuro 5010 and a AE3000 Panny PJ. I mainly want this to upscale SD cable, SD DVDs, and Netflix through 360. Would the DVDO Edge be $700 better than the Faroudja DCDi processing in the Onkyo?
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post #3708 of 6974
3/19/09 at 4:21pm
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Originally Posted by septim View Post

I have an Onkyo TX-SR805 with HDMI out split between a Kuro 5010 and a AE3000 Panny PJ. I mainly want this to upscale SD cable, SD DVDs, and Netflix through 360. Would the DVDO Edge be $700 better than the Faroudja DCDi processing in the Onkyo?

The video processing in the SR805 is not good at all. If you have an SR805, you should disable / bypass its video processing, as your Kuro will do a much better job.

As to whether the Edge is "$700 better" than the processing in your Kuro, that's the subject of some debate. For me, the answer would be no. For most other pre-2008 TVs, the answer would be yes.
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post #3709 of 6974
3/20/09 at 3:52pm
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Originally Posted by Skypalace View Post

I left voicemail and followed up with a detailed email to Larry about some major problems I'm having with my Edge, but when it was working fine I had another problem. I mentioned this in my email also, but thought the community might have thoughts on that part. Here's the relevant portion:

Oh, one more problem, this isn't a new one, this was happening even when everything was working fine, so is probably unrelated. I bought a VGA->RGBHV breakout cable to be able to get my HTPC outputting to the Edge (I used to have a Dwin TV3 projector, which has an outboard scalar, and it had a direct VGA port). The HTPC is set to 720p (1280 x 720 @60Hz) through the nVidia card, but I could not get the Edge to detect any signal whatsoever when I connected it to the Component 2/ RGBHV connectors. Any reason this wouldn't/shouldn't work? This was one of the reasons I bought my Edge, as I needed to have support for all the devices that I had hooked to my previous projector (the Dwin) through its outboard scalars. I didn't worry too much as I haven't yet ceiling-mounted the Planar so still have the Dwin in place, but one I ceiling-mount I'll lose my HTPC output unless I resolve this. Here's the cable I bought (also of course used BNC->RCA adapters on the RGBHV leads):

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Skypalace,

i've got the exact same problem here. My DVDO Edge won't "lock onto" a 1280x720 @ 60Hz signal from my HTPC. Later on in this thread, I read you got a beta firmware from DVDO. Is that what fixed it for you?
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post #3710 of 6974
3/21/09 at 1:39pm
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Originally Posted by scsiraid View Post

Havent seen that... but I have seen that the audio delay setting is reset to zero after every power cycle.....

I just updated to the 1.1 firmware... and I'm losing ALL settings on every power cycle (either removing the mains or just hitting the off button on the remote.) I've lost two iterations of renaming my inputs at this point. Not too impressed at the moment.

Kevin
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post #3711 of 6974
3/21/09 at 3:12pm
I hooked my Xbox 360 up to the Edge through component and have it going through HDMI to my receiver, which in turn is sending another HDMI to my projector.

I kept having a dimming effect on my Xbox today (like when the system is idle for several minutes). Any idea what might be causing it? It kept dimming every couple of minutes and would last for about a second or two.
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post #3712 of 6974
3/21/09 at 3:50pm
I am receiving my new Edge on Monday and was wondering if there's any way to tell which firmware the unit has without hooking it up to a display. I would prefer to get the firmware updated, if necessary, before the unit gets too comfortable in its new home.
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post #3713 of 6974
3/21/09 at 5:31pm
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Originally Posted by David_MSP View Post

I am receiving my new Edge on Monday and was wondering if there's any way to tell which firmware the unit has without hooking it up to a display. I would prefer to get the firmware updated, if necessary, before the unit gets too comfortable in its new home.

yeah, hook it up to your computer...
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post #3714 of 6974
3/21/09 at 5:47pm
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Originally Posted by CCONKLIN1 View Post

yeah, hook it up to your computer...

Thank you. I'll do that right away.
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post #3715 of 6974
3/21/09 at 10:08pm
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Originally Posted by bfdtv View Post

The video processing in the SR805 is not good at all. If you have an SR805, you should disable / bypass its video processing, as your Kuro will do a much better job.

I own the above equipment and can attest to that. The 805's analog to digital conversion is incredibly disappointing. Playstation2 via component was unwatchable. The edge handles analog sources much better...
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post #3716 of 6974
3/22/09 at 2:31am
I've finally set my DVDO Edge up last night and have to say im quite impressed with it. Im going to cinemascope direction very soon and have to admit I love the idea of the seperate HDMI Audio and HDMI Video/audio. I was a bit worried that it woud not pass DTS HD MA and Dolby True HD but all was good. Cant wait to begin Cinemascope.
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post #3717 of 6974
3/22/09 at 2:59am
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Originally Posted by Scythe42 View Post

But it has also bugs/issues:

4. annoying animations when chaning aspect ratio

There is nothing annoying about the animations when changing aspect ratios!!!

The animation shows you exactly what the Edge is doing to your picture when you press each aspect ratio button!
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post #3718 of 6974
3/22/09 at 8:26am
I have the JVC HD1/RS1 and have all my components going through the DVDO EDGE. I've noticed that my output is always 1080i on my projector and the DVDO edge even when I play a BD knowing that it is 1080p. I had to force 1080p but then noticed when demoing a SD movie with a HD DVD player which scaled up to 1080p/24 the picture was jumping frame by frame. I basically had to put my DVDO output to Auto for it to work but still on proj info and the DVDO edge info it comes out 1080i. Am I missing something here?
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post #3719 of 6974
3/22/09 at 8:30am
Anyone else wish there was a power button? Every once in a while my colors will go green and/or get all messed up. I'm not sure what's causing this and I'm hoping it will be fixed with a firmware upgrade. Resetting the unit fixes the problem, though unplugging from the back is a pain.

Anyone others seeing this?

Tom
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post #3720 of 6974
3/22/09 at 9:41am
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Originally Posted by TKNice View Post

Anyone else wish there was a power button? Every once in a while my colors will go green and/or get all messed up. I'm not sure what's causing this and I'm hoping it will be fixed with a firmware upgrade. Resetting the unit fixes the problem, though unplugging from the back is a pain.

Anyone others seeing this?

Tom

I had this issue when my Edge was plugged into my 1920x1200 Gateway 24" display using HDMI and Edge Output setting was on Auto. Selecting 1080P 60Hz for Output on the Edge fixed it and never happened again. So, if you haven't already, try selecting an output other than Auto.
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