New DVDO EDGE !! - Page 179

I doubt there are too many chasing that extra 2% for hundreds of dollars but who knows?

It certainly does a lot more than a 2% improvement. At least my two Edges did. It's a big difference without them. Although Now I have a DUO on my main display have taken my two EDGEs off of my other two displays. Even on the 40" HD set, there is a big difference without the EDGE in the setup.

If you read his post he is not talking about a "difference without the EDGE in the setup". He is talking about the difference between 720p and 1080i from the same source.

settle down boys
allow me to rephrase
will the dvdo edge scale 720p to 1080p better than a pioneer kuro?

Maybe. Only one way to tell. Cost/benefit is something else entirely.

I suspect the Kuro has pretty good processing and it's not like you're talking about SD to HD.

I am trying to use my edge as the first connection with the following:

DVD
TiVo
HTPC

with output 1 connected to my Plasma and the Audio HDMI connected to the Onkyo Pro.

For normal TV, I want input 2 to send the audio to the Pioneer display.
For DVD and HTPC, I want the audio sent to the receiver.

I just discovered that the audio is a global setting and not per input.

That is no good for me. Am I missing something?

- Rich

It is a global setting but the 'Auto' selection should give you the desired results (given that the AVR is NOT turned on when you watch normal TV).

When your AVR is off, EDGE should detect that there is no active link and route the audio to your Pioneer display and when the AVR is powered on EDGE should detect the link and route audio to your AVR (and not your display).

That does work but when I turn the AVR on there appears to be an infinite HDMI negotiation and I cannot get sound or from the DVD and the TiVo keep flashing every few seconds. It is unusable until I explicitly select the audio.
I have tried setting the hotplug but that is not working.

Is the hotplug also global?

- Rich

I've finally hooked up my new Edge into my new projector last night and am very pleased with it. Having only one HDMI cable crossing the room is awesome, especially with the technologically stubborn Wii.

Question about changing resolutions when hooked up to the PS3. When I go from the main menu to a game, the resolution usually drops to 720p (which is normal). But then my projector detects a change, goes blank, and comes back with the current input/resolution displayed in the corner. It's the same 1080p signal the Edge was giving before, but somehow the projector knew there was a change "behind the scenes" or something.

Not a big deal, but I thought the Edge would smooth out this sort of transition and keep feeding a nice steady 1080p signal to projector, regardless of changes in source.

Am I wrong or just doing it wrong? Thanks!

UPDATE:

It appears that the beta firmware did NOT correct the audio drop out problem. While watching Sunday Night Football last night there where more drop outs than I could count.

How long do the drop outs last?

They last about a 1/2 second and can be anyware from a few seconds apart to several minutes. Could be one or two in five minutes, or fifteen in thirty seconds. There seems to be no set pattern.

The Edge stops the output signal when the input signal stops to resync to the new format. I think you can get rid of that problem by taking off the output frame lock but then you can have other problems like the occasional duplicate frame or such. I think your best bet is to just get used to it. DVDO doesn't seem to want to fix it. (How could they "fix" it? Just send a blank signal at the previous output format for up to some amount of time after dropping the input signal...)

Thanks for the info. I'll play around with some of those settings, but yeah, it's nothing I can't get used to.

Does anybody know if the Edge will drive both optical and HDMI audio at the same time? Or does the audio track on the HDMI output go mute whenever optical is being used?

(sadly, having a projector and no HDMI receiver makes this difficult to test)

The Edge outputs audio over both HDMI and optical at the same time.

I have two of my Edge inputs setup to allow me to quickly switch back and forth when a TV program has been recorded or aired in the older letterbox format that programs like Stargate SG-1 on Sci-Fi used to use.

My first output from the HD-DVR goes into the Edge via HDMI... I also output Component video and optical audio from the HD-DVR to the Edge. Then I simply setup the Component/optical input on the Edge with a 31% zoom and whenever a program comes on with that format I can quickly switch from HDMI-2 to Component-2.

HiHoStevo

My Edge will not output audio over the HDMI Audio/Video output at the same time it is sending audio out the optical output. I must select one or the other in the Edge Audio Output settings using the remote control. My Edge HDMI Audio/Video output is conected directly to my TV and the Edge Optical output is connected to my Yamaha Digital Surround Sound speaker system. Normally I listen to the TV speakers via HDMI input. If I want to hear the Yamaha speaker system, I must select the Edge to the Optical audio output. After doing so, I no longer get HDMI audio to the TV speakers. Also the audio Auto function does not work in that if I turn on the Yamaha speaker system "On" , the Edge will not automatically switch from HDMI audio to Optical audio. I have to manually select it, so I am curious as to how you are getting this to work.

Sorry I may have mis-led you.

It is my HD-DVR that outputs audio simultaneously over both HDMI and optical out.

With my Edge... I have TWO Different inputs being used by the HD-DVR. One (HDMI 2) using the HDMI connection from my DVR and a second input (Component 1) using Component in and optical audio in. That way I can switch quickly back and forth when I run into the TV programs that were broadcast in the letterbox format.

In your case I am assuming that your Yamaha does NOT have an HDMI audio input, which I believe would be working at the same time as the primary HDMI out.

Depending on what your source is and what outputs are available on your source you could set up a second input selection that would allow you to have the optical audio output selected.

Right, it looks like the Edge will only output audio on the HDMI if the optical-out is NOT being used. Too bad, since I'm using an HDMI splitter for multiple TVs and I'll have to find a way to get optical audio from the HDMI, AFTER the split.

Still, your set-up has an excellent method for handling different aspect ratios from the same source. Plug the same device into two Edge inputs and then adjust the picture for each. Awesome, thanks!

The weakest point of my home theater is the DVR Motorola Box my local cable folks rent me. I have what I would suspect marginal processing from my Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH for 480i. The bulk of movies are located @ 480i with my cable comp., would a DVDO up the picture quality? I'm a believer of horse $hit in horse $hit out. I have no experience with video processing. In my younger days I sold Berwin and Dolby noise reduction devices. Each had it's downside at that time. I have moved to a home theater mind set. Display: Pioneer Kuro Pro-151FD, Sources: BD/DVD Denon 3800BDCI, Motorola DVR. Processor: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH Power:Rotel RMB-1025THX Spk:NHT Classic Three's RT. LT. RR. LR. NHT Classic Three center and a NHT Twelve SW. Again I like everthing other then 480i cable. Any help would be most appreciated....................Renmeister

Much depends on your viewing habits, expectation, visual perception of artefacts and viewing distance. I have two 101FDs and one is connected to the Edge. I originally got the Edge to use with my old 3G Pioneer plasma and the difference it made was huge. But with the 9G it's close. The 9G Kuros have more processing (colour and DNR) and aspect ratio adjustment options than the Edge. Some prefer not to use any processing settings at all - I like some DNR to smooth out the artefacts. But the Edge can be useful in other ways. You have to see for yourself.

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•I power up my Pioneer 51FD BDP and go to the washroom while waiting. If it's a BD-J title I'd have dinner first . Zzzzzz

My wife is an avid fan of international films she now owns 80% of the Criterion catalog her system is set up in the guest bedroom. If we are not in agreement on programing she will watch her flicks in the guest bedroom. She's using an OPPO BDP-83 and we also have a 2nd Pro-151FD. The picture quality of the BDP-83 rivals my Denon 3800bdci and loads bd's in seconds. I sure would like an all Pioneer system excluding pwr. and spks. However the load times on the 09 are not any better the the 3800bdci or the 51FD BDP. So I wait. I read yesterday my VSX-21TXH uses DVDO processing. I'm going to play with it and see how much better thing get. Many thanks for your educated response to my questions..............................Renmeister

I have been using the Edge for a while with very few problems until tonight. Suddenly, Input 1 seems to have stopped working! I tried updating the Edge's firmware to 1.2.3, and it seems to work fine on Inputs 2, 3 and 4 (connected to my PS3, Apple TV and HD Tivo), but whenever I try to switch to Input 1(connected to my HD cable box) the Edge's light turns red, I get a black screen and the Edge will not turn back on or switch back to another input unless I unplug the Edge and plug it back in. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? This really sucks because I paid $700 for the Edge and I am sure it is out of warranty but am looking for my receipt to find out for sure. Any advice?

I spent some time working with tech support.
The problem appears to be an loop in the negotiation.
I had a similar problem with my Lumagen Radiance.
Turning on HotPlug fixed the problem.

Hotplug on the Edge seems to do nothing.
I think it is a bug. There is no work around for me since the AVR must be downstream for the audio and upstream to allow me to use the network features of the AVR.

- Rich

I had a similar issue were my PS3 would not work on HDMI input #2. For some reason my xBox 360 worked so I just switched them. Eventually I had another hardware issue so I had it exchanged. Here in Canada the London Drugs I bought it at is also the depot so they exchanged instantly. So far so good with my new unit running FW v1.3.

I had HDMI input #1 go out on my unit last year.

DVDO replaced the unit.

No DVDO Edge here, but I was experiencing audio drop outs Sunday Night as well. I have DTV HR20 going directly into older Yamaha via toslink, so maybe it was the source this time.

I have one I've had since virtually day one of availability. I've done every documented reset but all I get is a solid red light every time I power it on or off with the power cord. Unit is non-responsive to any remote command.

Please tell me someone knows of a magic bullet. My experiences with sending units in to DVDO for repair have not been so positive. I need this unit working bad.

Same thing eventually happened to me and I had to get a replacement unit. Even though mine was non-responsive to the remote, I could still update the firmware although that didn't fix it for me. You could give that a try and load a different version of firmware and see if yours makes a come back.

And none of you have activated Input Deep Colour, because this is what happens if this is active at my place (?)