New DVDO EDGE !! - Page 201

As they say, garbage in = garbage out.
No processor is going to work miracles with video that is compressed beyond the limits of reasonable acceptance.

If you have a tv with good scaling/deinterlacing, then you may be ok without an external processor like the Edge, but the processing from the Edge should still look better.
I don't see how the Edge could make the pic look worse, unless you are using something like a $5000+ display with better processing.

I use an Edge with 2 different displays. One a 46"1080p Z-series, and the other an Epson 720p/1080i projector with an 8 ft wide screen.
The Edge makes all my programming look wonderful, with 'source direct' from my players and TW STB.

My advice these days to anyone looking for the best setup for on_screen PQ, is to buy the best panel you can for the money you have. Don't worry about the scaling within, and with that in mind, you can usually still get a great display for reasonable cost.
Then, add an external video processor like the DVDO Edge to it and you have the best of both worlds.
Depending on how big you want to go on screen size, something like a very nice 50" display + DVDO Edge can be had for well under $2000.
Many others spend twice that much to get it all in just the display.
Research and diligence can save dollars and produce very satisfying results in the end.

Hey guys Ive come across a problem with my Edge. I have it connected to a PS3 (sending DVD signal in 480p) and a Samsung UN55B6000. I'm noticing some serious static during DVD playback. It doesn't happen all the time, but more often than not, especially in darker areas. Any ideas of how to fix this? On the Edge, I turned the Brightness down and it seemed to help, but I can only decrease the Brightness so far before the screen is too dark.

By altering a signal and sending it to a display that already has good processing that can not be turned off. Cost has little to do with it. Good scaling and de-interlacing are in commodity chips these days. Anchor Bay is more in the chip business now. If you want to pay for a box around it with more bells and whistles they will take that business too. As people go towards all HD sources that business will decline. Just my prediction, of course.



My advice these days is to try an Edge only on an audition basis.

Your display isn't going to deinterlace anything after its already been deinterlaced by the edge. It's also not going to upscale something that has already been upscaled. I don't really see how a normal display is going to do a better job.

The altered signal from the Edge was being further video processed by the display to detrimental results. This was much discussed in the Edge beta forum. I have little idea what video processing the Panasonic plasma does but when the Edge was taken out of the loop the better broadcast TV SD picture quality was restored.

It improves my DirecTv SD (I have a 60hz Sharp Aquos). Not HD, by any means, but it does great at taking letterboxed movies from Chiller and zooming them to 16:9, with sharpening and edge enhancement.

It also allows my DirecTv DVR to play those 1080p/24 movies to my Sharp, which does not have 1080p/24 capability. The Edge outputs the 1080p/24 at 1080p/60.

[quote=Gary J;18769140]By altering a signal and sending it to a display that already has good processing that can not be turned off. Cost has little to do with it. Good scaling and de-interlacing are in commodity chips these days. Anchor Bay is more in the chip business now. If you want to pay for a box around it with more bells and whistles they will take that business too. As people go towards all HD sources that business will decline. Just my prediction, of course. QUOTE]

Hardware is only one part of the scaler/deinterlacer. Quite often, its the software implementation that will determine the performance of the scaler. IMHO, this difference in software implementation can make the inbuilt scaling of a display look better or worse than that of a VP having the same hardware.

I still recommend that people buying a 50 + inch tv invest the additional 500-600 bucks to buy a good vp

You could be right but does it matter if it looks worse?

I still recommend only trying a VP that can be returned. Even then only if you watch a lot of sources that may benefit, like SD DVD. Otherwise, get a cheap HDMI switcher.

Please guys I really need your help. I'm seeing a lot of static while watching movies. I can't figure out how to get rid of it. Any ideas? This only happens when using the Edge. I'm going to have to return it if I can't get it to stop.

Hey guys, my Edge has developed a high pitched whining noise. It happens when the Edge is plugged in at all - even on standby. It comes directly from the Edge. It sounds like some sort of coil whine - like what old CRTs can do. It's very distracting. Has anyone else had this problem?

I bought it a bit over a year ago from OneCall, but I used a credit card that doubles warranties up to a year, so I think I'm going to need to figure out how to use that benefit of the card.

This is going to seem really silly, but... try reseating your HDMI cable on both ends. Mine was apparently pluggend in on both ends, but I was getting peroidic periods of digital snow. I just reseated them and the problem went away. It may work for you, too.

Thank you for the suggestion. I tried it and unfortunately it didnt solve the problem. I tried reconnecting and swapping hdmi cables which didnt help either. Ive noticed that this snow/static effect is worse on some movies than on others. If I cant figure it out, I will probably return this and get the Oppo BDP-83

Someone said power cycling helped with their snow problem. How do you power cycle the Edge?

Good grief, the CMS alone is worth the price of admission. What you see in the public beta is not all the Duo will be when the software is done. Pixel processing alone is not what this VP is all about.

I do not disagree with your opinion however this is the Edge thread

Plenty of good color correction built into displays and projectors these days too. But first see if you can figure out what thread you're in.

I called Anchor Bay tech support and he said my static/snow problem is a "board" problem with my unit, I guess circuit board. So I returned it and got an Oppo BDP-83 instead.

Finally have an secondhand Edge (craigslist) on the way... The seller said it currently has firmware v1.1 on it... Goinig to DVDO's website I see up to 1.5 (beta) is currently offered, with version 1.2.3 being what looks to be a pretty important "reliability enhancement" update. But I've also read about what looks to be a growing number of problems with various people's configurations.

Should I upgrade?

To what?

Can it be "downgraded" later?

thanks,
..dane

Yes, you can downgrade/retrograde to older/different fw at any time.
My suggestion would be to load the very latest fw that just came out a few weeks ago.
If you have any problems that can not be resolved, then contact AB tech support and let them know what is happening.
They can then suggest a different fw to use if necessary.

will do. thanks Dave.

Is there a list somewhere compiling all of the Edge's options that become grayed out or unavailable when Game Mode is activated, or is it just the two Enhancement (Edge and Detail) settings?

Anyone know why can't I ever get Deep Color output to work? It is always grayed out.
The Edge reports Deep Color incoming from the BD player, but output is still grayed out.
TIA

Does your display accept Deep Color? What are your connections? You need to provide details.

I have a fairly complicated setup, BUT: I have disconnected the rats nest and tried connecting directly to the display that does have deep color capability, and still no go.

The only thing else that is in the chain, is that with the direct connection, I have one of those hdmi->hdmi couplers in the middle of two cables.
This will be replaced with one of the wall plates that is virtually the same thing.
I wouldn't think that the coupler would truncate the DC passthrough would it?

EDIT: Actually there is 2 couplers... one at the point where the hdmi enters the wall and goes up through the wall ceiling, then another one at the point where is comes out of the wall at the display. Like I said though, those two connections will be replaced with HDMI wall plates.
So, essentially the cable between the Edge and the display is 3 cables (all high quality), with 2 couplers connecting the 3 cables.

I do have the wall plates that are not installed yet.
I supposed I could disconnect the couplers and temporarily put the wall plates in their place,
but I really doubt the couplers are the problem.

I was unaware of any source material that even had deep color content.. Out of curiosity, do you have deep color content source material? From what I've read, no studio movie BD today has deep color content... (yet? maybe never?)

..dane

Very true Dane, but there are other small reasons for using deep color, like helping reduce rounding errors and such.
Mostly, I'm just concerned with making sure the Edge is working properly.

IIRC Deep Color came with HDMI 1.3 so all connections need to be 1.3 compliant.

It is interpolated (fake) Deep Color. Deep Color is not in Blu-ray and never will be. It is not provided for in the Blu-ray spec. Some cameras have Deep Color.

Is there anyway to make a direct connection to your display without the couplers in the chain. Which display do you have?

Not really, no. Well, I could take down the tv off the wall and bring it over to the Edge, but that ain't happening today.
I need to pull it down to do some work behind it, so when I'm ready, I may try that.

The display in question a Sony KDL-46Z5100.

THESE are the wall plates I have (not installed yet).

Bug in 1.5... When I switch inputs to one using HDMI, and use the zoom button to get rid to the 4:3 data from the top of the screen, the DVDO leave the yellow block on the top right showing the input on the screen, and I cant get rid of it except to switch inputs and go back again.