Originally Posted by scientest
Show us one single place in any thread here that any one has said that all (100%) double blind test have had the same result? No one (other than yourself) has ever said such a thing. Rather we've been very careful to point out that the correlation between positive and negative double blind testing and the measurements of such equipment is 100%. I pointed out in the other thread where you repeated this misconception some low hanging fruit, but here it is again for anyone else not inclined to go digging through the multitude of AVS threads:ABX Double Blind Comparator Data
so you accept there are people who have passed ABX DBT, which means that there are people who can hear differences, which means any statements that devices all sound the same should be qualified by "IMO and experience" or "DBT tests that has results showing both pass and fails".
But I bet you will come back and say, ah the hardware was a faulty design.
Anyway if your going to throw around statements products do sound the same unless flawed, here is a suggestion for you and the others.
Start a thread explaining everything, surmising the theory-practical experience-reasoning-conclusion and further thoughts.
You only have to do this once Scientist and co, because you just bookmark that thread and then add the URL in future discussions.
Not hard, not too much work, and makes sense.
But, what we have at the moment is just "you cannot hear differences and this is proved by DBT", with one DBT site thrown in without any comments about them.
So please to make life easier for all parties, can someone from the DBT party please please please take the time and effort to create a concise thread that offers information that adds to the discussion.
This is not about arguing but sharing knowledge.
BTW, I checked the various products in that ABX link you provided but the problem is, we are not comparing anything that is truly mainstream to recognised upper brands.
Can someone provide another ABX data site that has done this?
Although ideally this should be done in a dedicated thread that pulls all the different sites, process,etc all under one roof (one thread).
Also I forgot who was doing the speaker challenge where there was prize money if you could tell the difference, the restriction was that the speakers had to be equalised (sadly I cannot remember the details bah).
Anyone remember who this was or has information on this as well?