Official VSX-01TXH and VSX-03TXH Owners Thread - Page 9

Originally Posted by CarloM

I swapped out all my HDMI cables and still having dropouts between the PS3, the 03 and the Sony KDS-60A3000. Anyone else having HDMI dropout problems? It's not a huge deal for me, as 95%+ the picture recovers, but about every one in 20 times it doesn't and I have to either hit pause/play or chapter back to get the picture to come up. I'm wondering if I have a defective unit or if this is expected performance?

Otherwise, I'm completely in awe of this receiver!

Originally Posted by pistolpetejr

... I guess the receiver somehow just doesn't send the audio through the HDMI cable. Is that a common "feature" that other receivers have?

Originally Posted by pnkflyd51

Hey Carlo-

Sorry to hear that you're having trouble with your -03. Take a peak at the tiny little HDMI boards or prongs or whatever they're called that is in the HDMI input & outputs on the receiver. If it wiggles it's bad news. Perhaps the one on your output is broken? Even if it isn't broken, I wouldn't live with this- I'd exchange it if you can...

I bought an Elite 94 about 6 months ago and it's working great for me. At one point I put quite a bit of stress on the HDMI output connector when I pushed the unit back in my cabinet. I was using a thick monoprice HDMI cable. I ended up cutting a large hole in the back of my cabinet so the cables could hang behind the cabinet and bought a cheaper thinner (more pliable) HDMI monoprice cable so that there wouldn't be nearly as much stress. I love HDMI for it's one cable for A & V, all digital- but hate the connector itself. Very poor design- between the fact that the cables can be pulled out easily and that little board is breaking on folks when they put too much stress on the connection. I'm thinking about getting a -01 for my parents for a Christmas gift...

Good luck! AL

Originally Posted by Macfan424

No.

I don't know of any which both decode the signal and pass it through at the same time. You can set them to do one or the other, but not both simultaneously. I think it's inherent to HDCP.

Originally Posted by pistolpetejr

I ran left and right audio cables from my cable box to input #4 on my pioneer 1150. This is the same input number as the HDMI is. I still do not get any sound through the TV. If I instead attach the audio cables to input #3 I get sound (but no video since the HDMI is inut #4). I'm sure I must be doing something wrong??

Originally Posted by Macfan424

Do you have the TV's HDMI audio input set to "Digital?" If so, it will only accept digital input. Try using "Auto." If that doesn't work, try "Analog" as that's all you are using anyway. It's been over a year since I fooled with that on my 5080, but IIRC, Auto didn't work right for me for some forgotten reason. I changed it to Analog and all was well. (I have my satellite box set up as you describe, except I don't run its HDMI through my AVR. I use an S/PDIF connection to the AVR.)

You might want to check your cable box settings as well. There may be a setting there that needs changing.

All else failing, if you are using the HDMI control function, check those settings. They can cause some unexpected consequences, or so I've heard (I've never used it).

Originally Posted by CarloM

Just curious: is no one else having HDMI dropout issues between the 03 and a PS3?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by DJL53

I had this problem from time to time between my 01 and PS3 but replacing the HDMI cable solved it.

Originally Posted by freaksavior

if i am playing over bitstream shouldn't my recevier display the DD sign then true hd or DTS-HD?

i had my ps3 on bitstream and it just said dd and dts. if i set it to pcm it shows pcm and on master and commander the bitrate was about 6mpbs while on bitstream it was 1.5

Originally Posted by freaksavior

does 6.0mbps sound about right for a dts hd over pcm?

also is the 01 suppose to say DD true hd or DTS-HD when thats the audio playing?

Originally Posted by CarloM

May I ask what brand/model of cable you're currently using? Thanks!

Originally Posted by CarloM

Since the PS3 is doing the decoding and sending it out as PCM, the 01 should only say PCM, as it doesn't know what the PS3 is decoding. And for DTS-MA and TrueHD I've seen anything from 1.0 mbps to over 8.0 mbps. It's a variable bit rate codec.

Originally Posted by freaksavior

ok thanks.

Can you actually hear a difference in the bitstream and pcm versions?

Originally Posted by howellk

Considering the 01 will default to TV/SAT if it's turned on first I always turn on the source input I want first then I turn on the 01. The 01 seems to lock onto the input source that way.

However I've noticed that if I turn on my DVD player first and there is no signal source (because I haven't actually pressed "play") the 01 will default back to TV/SAT.

So basically if you have a source sending a signal and then you turn on the 01 with the right input selection it will lock onto it.

This has to be the biggest annoyance I have with this receiver plus the fact you can't store input settings.

Originally Posted by CarloM

Nope, but that's because like you, I have a PS3 and can't do bitstream of the HD codecs so I have no basis of comparison!

Seriously, the decoding of the HD codec has to happen somewhere, whether it's in your receiver or the PS3. The fact that it's output via high bit rate PCM from the PS3 to the receiver should *in theory* provide no loss of fidelity. I'll let others argue whether that happens in practice.

Personally I'm thrilled about the quality of the sound, I can definitely tell the difference between the HD codec output via PCM over the standard Dolby Digital and DTS tracks. And, since the source machine is doing the decoding and sending it concurrently with the picture (rather than having the intermediary machine--the receiver--do it) I have not had one instance of lip sync problems.

Originally Posted by CarloM

Please let us know what you find re: bitstream vs. LPCM. Basically from what I understand the difference will be revealed only if one source is better at decoding than the other source. So if the 03 has better decoders than the PS3, then in theory bitstream should be better, and vice versa. I would think the decoding should be pretty comparable between the two units (the PS3 is no slouch).

When I have some time later I'll post my initial review of the 03 after about two weeks worth of putting it through its paces. Here's a brief synopsis, though: I very much like it.

Originally Posted by howellk

Do you have a Pioneer TV with HDMI control on? I do and no matter what, if I turn on the 01, then the Kuro then the DVR or DVD it will always default to TV/SAT. All my connections are HDMI.

What I've noticed is, if I turn on the 01 first it will go back to my previous input because I see it flash up on the screen but if it doesn't find a signal from the last input source it will default back to TV/SAT. This happens even when I turn on the Kuro second in the chain.

It almost appears as though HDMI control causes a lag as the 01 is searching for an input signal and even when I turn on the input source during the Kuro handshake time the lag causes the 01 to default back to the TV/SAT.