Official VSX-01TXH and VSX-03TXH Owners Thread - Page 83

Not sure if I can help, but before any of us can, a couple of things need clarification:

1) Why are you using an optical cable with your D* receiver? HDMI will carry its sound, too.

2) What to you mean by HDCP? (That's the shorthand for High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection, the copy protection program Hollywood foisted on us. It applies to nearly all CE devices equipped with HDMI.) Since you are using DVI, I'm guessing it is a computer, but it might help to know for sure.

3) Do both inputs give you the "cannot select" message, or only one of them? Does this happen when you use Input Select or only with the HDMI button? How about the specific button designated for the input(s) that you "cannot select"?

This just shows I should not post messages at 1 in the morning!

I stopped using the optical cable for Directv. Was an old habit since my previous receiver did not have HDMI input. Same problem exists though.

Not HDCP. Meant to say HTPC so yes it is a computer.

The "cannot select" message happens with both HDMI inputs when pressing the HDMI button. If I disconnect one of the HDMI's, I can then access one of them. If I use the input select, it never shows there is an HMDI selection.

Any ideas?

Thanks again,
Brian

Does that help clarify?

It clarifies, thanks. In fact, the first sentence explained everything.

Unfortunately, I can't come up with a solution to this one yet.

The HTPC works when you disconnect the D* receiver's cable? And D* works with the HTPC disconnected? Strange.

A workaround would be to connect both directly to the TV for Video, and use only digital audio cables to the AVR. Doesn't solve the mystery, but should get things running at least. Neither DirecTV nor the HTPC gain anything by sending audio over HDMI, other than eliminating a couple of cables.

Brian,
I'll take a stab at this...


I think this is what you will need to do:

Go in to your input menu (page 69 of the VSX-01 manual) to tell your receiver how you have it connected.

Do this with HDMI Control off.
First, you need to assign a function on the remote for your htpc
example: If you want to assign "dvd" for your htpc; from the "input setup menu", select "input ": Dvd , "digital in": Digital (coax 1-x) and "hdmi input": Hdmi (1-x)

page 69:



from the above example, anytime you want to connect your htpc, you would hit dvd on the remote
when you try this, if you still don't hear sound, you may have to go to the "input signal" menu (page 33) by pressing sig sel on the remote and scroll between auto, hdmi, digital and analog - because it will sense hdmi and assume audio is also hdmi (you should only have to do this once).. Digital will be the one you want (see below)

page 33:
Press RECEIVER, then press SIGNAL SEL to select
the input signal corresponding to the source
component.
Each press cycles through the options as follows:
AUTO - This is the default setting. The receiver
selects the first available signal in the following order:
HDMI; DIGITAL; ANALOG.
ANALOG - Selects an analog signal.
DIGITAL - Selects an optical or coaxial digital signal.
HDMI - Selects an HDMI signal.1
PCM - Only PCM signals are output.2

Your Sat/box should be assigned the same way, but with HDMI 1-x assigned with digital IN set to ---
hope that works, let us know

That solved the conflict. Thanks a million for the help. Ready to enjoy now!

So...

This fella "Will" is reliable? And an authorized dealer? Would like to take advantage of the excellent pricing but don't want to throw my money down a well, either....

Kinda in the dark about where he's actually located, the zip code shows an address in MI if you click it, IN if you just type the number into mapquest.

Any and all input appreciated by the noob.

All your answers are in this thread.

I bought from "will", I found him to be easy to deal with. I called in my order to his store and got an employee.make sure you have the price quoted on website, I don't think anythings shady, but they asked for it. Also flat shipping that doesn't match videogon's estimation but that was not a biggie as I was within cents of the estamate. He shipped fast and the item was untouched/unopened by anyone(brand new).
warranty is the pioneer authorized for my 03(not third party), at least from what I have read on this thread...

I would buy from him again, as i'm sure many others would....

There are almost 2500 posts in this thread. I have read at least a thousand of them... But thought maybe someone would be kind enough to respond and help me consolidate the information.

Go ahead and type "will" in the "search this thread" box and see how many hits you get.

If you were "kind" enough to take the time to post that unhelpful response, perhaps you would be kind enough to hit a few more keys and answer the question(s). Or perhaps someone ELSE will...

In no particular order...

1- Different zip codes in two different states raises a flag (or perhaps you've never been 'taken' online or avoided something shady?), and noone from what I've read has said which is correct. If for no other reason, this is important to me because I live in one of the two states that the zip codes lead to and can change the transaction price by about $40.

2- Yeah, sure, I got it... It has been posted that "he" works for an authorized dealer. I wanted confirmation. Pardon me for being concerned about such a thing, when other authorized dealers charge so much more (and any other prices even close to "his" are notable for being from unauthorized dealers or eBay).

3- "Authorized" doesn't mean reliable. By asking the question I was looking for anyone who had a BAD experience (if indeed there are any). It should be self-evident why I asked this.

Your "tone" was pretty dismissive, or at least that's how I took it. I hope someone else will be more welcoming and help me out.

Thanks for your input fud...

Is the location of the store a secret, or can you tell me where it is?

First, there's no way you've read 1000 posts in this thread and haven't come across the answers to all of your questions. A member just posted within the last few days about how he sent his receiver (purchased from Will) in for repair from Pioneer without any issue.

My response might have been dismissive because your question comes up about every third day. The information about Will has been posted hundreds of times in this thread. His location has been posted numerous times. Just call them and they'll tell you. Praise for his service has been posted hundreds of times. Your "confirmation" is posted hundreds of times. If you're concerned, read. That's how most of us got the information.


PS. It's not Michigan or Indiana.

I did read. I read a lot, actually, here and elsewhere. And yes, it is possible to still want confirmation about a point or two, and NONE of the ones I read specified where the store is. As I said, it's not just mindless musing about what a pretty store it must be or what neighborhood it's in, I needed to know for reasons of sales tax and shipping... One version of the zip code is less than an hour from my house, so local pickup would help with the cost if I had to pay sales tax. But... Since it's not in Indiana, it's a non-issue on both fronts. Thank you for clearing that up. Might've been easier if you just answered in the first place, though.

I read nearly half this thread in various chunks over two nights because I don't have five or more hours to kill reading every single post... And most of my other questions were answered for me (for instance, possible incompatibility with my Toshiba HD-DVD player and DD soundtracks has me concerned). I didn't ask questions easily answered by reading the manual or the spec sheet, both of which I downloaded and read (and have done so with nearly every competing product). I was asking a question specifically about a seller that I've already emailed and not heard back from, I don't really see the annoyance factor in this. I "will" call (when I get the phone number), in fact, but I was waiting for a response to my email. As it's after hours, I thought maybe someone could allay my concerns and/or give me some helpful info in the meantime.

All the posts here of people having problems with their actual unit because they didn't read the instruction manual, or goofed up a setting by their own omission, or people complaining that something must be wrong because their old receiver played loudly at -20 and the Elite needs to be at -10 for the same volume... and I don't recall having seen the dismissive attitude I mentioned from anyone. If you don't see how the 1500 or so posts I DIDN'T read had the information I wanted and were thus missed, and how I didn't want to sift through THOUSANDS of posts, I'm stunned. Your criticism would be valid in a thread with fifty posts, but 2500? Come on. And I should just trust the guy who posted a few days ago and is happy as evidence that EVERYONE is happy? Really??

If there are in fact dozens of happy customers, that's great. Eases my mind quite a bit when I'm stretching my receiver budget by a decent margin to get the best bang for the buck. This, too, might've been better answered the first time around... Without the "I'm tired of reading this" asterisk.

More to the point, I am active on other boards that address other wide-ranging topics, and whenever I happen upon a question that I feel is too elementary to warrant my time, I don't tell people to search. I ignore it and let someone else answer. If it peeves you so much to have read my post, you should've done the same.

drdiaboloco,
In Stew4msu's defense, it seems that this question gets asked once every 50 posts or so. Sometimes it seems like this thread is more about Will than about the 01/03 avr. I am always surprised that people get offended by someone pointing them to the search function. Do you do your children's homework for them? Wouldn't that be easier for them? Of course, but it doesn't help them learn anything. I think that is usually the point of the "use the search" response.

As for your question, I have followed this thread for a while & do not remember a single post about problems with Will or the store he works for. I puchased from him and it was a simple transaction. To my knowledge, there has only been one person who had problems and that person seemed happy with the service they got. If you want more info on the buyer satisfaction for Will, you should read his feedback on Videogon. If you sent them an e-mail, they will respond with their contact info from the state that calls itself "America's Dairyland".

for god's sake, if you ain't got nothing nice to say, DON'T say it!

Ignore the post, its not like you live with that person in which case if their question goes unanswered you'd be in the doghouse.

Cool, thanks for following up and letting us know.

Now have fun!!

I've got a BD-60 blu-ray player connected by HDMI to the VSX-01THX which is connected to the Epson HC 720p projector by HDMI.

BD-60 says leave TV/Display set to "auto" and it will choose the proper setting from the display (720p, 1080i, 1080p).

However, my projector reports a max resolution of 1920 x 1080 even though it is 1280 x 720 native.

Just wondering how HDMI handles this (does the projector tell the receiver and BD player it's max and native resolutions and let them decide?) Also does inserting the upscaling AVR in the middle cause any trouble?

Basically trying to figure if I should leave my BD player set to "auto" or force it to 720p (and how to tell the VSX-01TXH not to upscale) so that the projector uses it's native resolution.

These receivers don't mess with HDMI video, upscaling is only for the analog inputs. If your bluray player is set to 720p, that what your projector will get in the end. Basically it comes down to if you want your projector or your bluray player to do the downscaling to 720p (provided your source is higher).

I received an email from him today with the phone number. Thanks for your input.

If you end up getting one, let us know what you think.

Mine arrived from 'Will on Tues as promised. Been drivin me crazy settin on it untill my day off today(Knew it would be an all day install). Ran new speaker wire thru basement so it would look clean for my back surround. At about 4: 30 I hit the power button. Wow! This monster will do the dishes!! Everything! This will take days of further sound testing(YEAHHH) to check it all out. The wife is enjoying it right now with a movie. Thanks again to all on this thread. Its a good feeling knowin you got the right one!

Hi all. I am not sure who uses an iPhone generation 1(ie 2G) or iTouch 2nd generation.
But uptil now the VSX-01 would not work at all. I updated to firmware 3.0 on my iPhone and iTouch 2nd gen. and now they both work like a charm. It does say the accessory will not work and you need to be in airplane but this is not necessary.

I was not able to use the iphone or iTouch to navigate, you need the TV display and VSX remote to navigate. The I was able to see all play lists, audiobook etc on my TV. I had trouble with a Podcast, so I will need to test this more.

Also, this is awesome, I am a Sirius subscriber and if you upgrade to premium online interent for $3/mo and then download the Sirus/XM app you can listen to Sat radio. On Sirius Howard Stern is not available from what I have heard with this new app currently.(I have no idea f there are plans to have him on it).

On my iPhone and iTouch I turned on wifi to connect to my wireless network to use Sirius/XM app.(I have not tried over EDGE and I dont have 3G to test, but I will use wifi for better speed)

This has been tested on fw 3.0 with my 2G iPhone and 2nd gen. iTouch.

I will assume any iPhone(2G, 3G or 3GS) will now work on the VSX-01/03 with fw 3.0. I think it may charge iPhone and iTouch as well but this is not confirmed.

Enjoy

Neal

Neal,
Thanks for the heads up... but i tried my iphone 3G which has the 3.0 firmware update and got the I1 error. Interesting that the earlier model works! I tried resetting the phone and resyncing.. but still the same error.
Joe H

Now that seems very strange as a 2nd gen iTouch is more like a 3G iPhone from a hardware standpoint except for phone/GPS feature as I understood.

Hmmm, seems very odd. Sorry to hear this as I had hoped this would fix the iPhone issues on the VSX-01/03.

Can you trying putting the phone in airplane mode and see what happens prior to connecting the usb cable?

Also are you using the usb cable that came with the iPhone? or an aftermarket one?

Neal,
I tried putting it in airplane mode first and it was the same. I tried having the iphone in ipod mode and in home page mode also.
I'm using an original iphone usb cable.
FYI I have the VSX03 receiver, though I would have thought it would behave the same as the 01.. (and that the 3G wouldl behave as the 2G).. ohwell...
It would have been nice to have it work.
Joe H

I thought the usb- iPhone connectors were the same for the 2G and 3G/3GS iPhones. Does anyone know did they again change power requirements on the newer iPhones.

I am very sorry to hear this, as I will eventually move to a 3G/3GS iPhone and I had hoped it would work as well...I assumed it would and you know what that means.(assumed= makes an ass/u/me).

lol.... you have that right .. the joy of technology. it opens up so many new possibilities.. but there are all these little tricks and glitches along the way. I use the apple airport express on some other recievers and powered speakers in the house over wifi... i just haven't put one on the elite... the "remote" app on the iphone it totally slick.
joe h

New AVR 03 update: after hooking everything up I now have new HD sound.. I see what I've been missing all this time.. CD player works, cd jukebox, STB music, FM, USB hard drive, I pod works.. Harmony 1000 controls every activity flawless. The AVR shows PCM from PS3 and recognizes my 7.1 speakers..One quick question: when I press THX button I only get 3 choices: Cinema, Music & Games. How do I get to THX Surround EX? I watched Hulk and the sound was jaw dropping.. Many thanks to all posters who have helped directly or indirectly..

Hi,

I have an HTPC I built with an alc889a sound device that can only be used via spdif/toslink. I am using hdmi connected to the VSX 01. The computer using the hdmi ati sound device limits it to 48khz whereas using the spdif it can go up to 192 khz. So obviously I want to use the optical with the hdmi for video. How do I assign optical to hdmi imput in the reciever setup? I tried this but I cant change the settings under HDMI in the input menu. Please help.

Thanks,
Eric

try this, ecosta87:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post16656055

That did the trick perfectly, thank you much.