Official VSX-01TXH and VSX-03TXH Owners Thread - Page 86

may be a dumb question but Ive looked through the manual...

My Ps3 is connected to the BD and my DirecTV receiver is connected to the TV input , both via HDMI.

for a party, I want to stream music from my PS3, but put on something from my TV receiver for the video.

how do I do this?

What does this mean?

The way I read it, s/he is saying that they have their PS3 hooked up to the HDMI input labeled "BD".

The only way to do it would be to hook the PS3 directly to the tv using HDMI and then use the optical out of the PS3 to the receiver.You will be able to play music from the PS3 and watch tv too.I had my 360 hooked up the way you did and I noticed 2 things.The volume was much lower on the 360 using HDMI for audio and video as opposed to using the optical cable for sound.And the picture looks much better now that I hooked the 360 directly to my Plasma instead of going through the VSX-01.Both of my kids asked me what I did to make the 360 picture look so much better and they had no idea that I did something so it must have been real noticeable.

But you'll lose lossless audio.

A better solution would be to keep the PS3 connected the way it is and connect the Directv receiver directly to the TV via HDMI and to the Pio via optical.

You could also keep things exactly as you have them, but also connect the directv receiver to the TV via component.

Everything would work as you have it now, but for those times when you want to listen to music (and watch TV), just change TV inputs.

thanks for the responses. I was hoping there was something simple in the receiver setup that would
combine 2 sources teh way I want. there should be anyways.

"And the picture looks much better now that I hooked the 360 directly to my Plasma instead of going through the VSX-01"

Im not sure what to think of this. I hope thats not the case as I invested alot of time , money and effort into my current VSX-01 setup for my 1080P Mitsu using just the 1 HDMI coming out from the receiver. why would the video degrade going through the receiver?

HDMI video doesn't get touched. Only analog video gets processed by these receivers, and you can disable that too (video will be passed through the same type of output in that case, i.e. component to component "monitor" out and so on). In my case, 480i video (PS2 game) looks better deinterlaced and processed by my 01 than it does passed through directly to my Kuro 500m, so it depends on your TV as well. I used to think processing in these AVRs was superfluous, but actually it's come pretty handy.

By the way, I think you can connect the PS3 to the receiver via optical, and then assign that optical audio to the HDMI input of your DirecTV. That way, when you want to listen to PS3 but watch DTV, you don't need to mess with connections and just change a couple of settings on your PS3 and receiver. Only one extra connection (optical from PS3 to receiver) and you don't lose anything that you already have.

How will he get sound for DirecTV?

My ipod 80gb classic works great except for the display on the front of the VSX-01.When I first hit play,the title and artist come up but after a few seconds,it goes away.Is there a fix for this?

Just changing the assignments on the AVR. Not ideal, but can be done quickly with the remote. All in all, from what he has now, only one extra connection is needed for that scenario I proposed (SPDIF from PS3 to AVR) If the PS3 can simultaneously output HDMI and SPDIF, then no changes in the PS3 are needed.

It cannot and it's a bit of a hassle to navigate the menu to change it every time.

I have a Velodyne sub and just read this in the manual:


Is the sub out on the VSX-01 crossed over?Here is a pic of the back of my Velodyne.The guys at Tweeter told me to hook it up like that.Shouldn't the out from the VSX-01 be going to line in on the sub?Why do they have me using the loop on the inputs?

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Don't think so. The Sub out from the AVR should be going to the line in. Some folks recommend that you use a "Y" splitter to go to both line in ports but it's not required. The line out is to go to another device, usually another sub. What they've told you to do doesn't make any sense.

You will likely want to use the crossover in the AVR so tur your crossover up to max on the sub and let the AVR do the work.

Thanks for the help.The back of the Velodyne shows all the control I have of the sub.There is no control for the crossover on the back of the sub.The only thing I can adjust is the volume.I took the cable out of the output and stuck it in opening of the "Y" cable that went to the input.Here are the specs for the sub if that helps:

I think I'd set the AVR to crossover @ 80Hz. Should work fine.

That looks like a pre-dolby 5.1 model Velodyne. Those used a different approach than most current AVR's and subs.

In any case, I agree with mrgribbles's suggestions, but you could run into some anomalies with the cascading crossovers. If the sub doesn't sound right, you may have to try another workaround (which I won't get into unless it is necessary).

BTW, I don't know how you got any sound at all out of your sub the way it was wired in your photo.

The only problem with that is the crossovers will be additive in the receiver and the sub. It may be the only practical way to do it though. In some of the older Velodynes there was a resistor that could be changed to increase the sub crossover point to 200HZ and then the sub crossover was essentially out of the equation. The ULD 15 and 18 had that option. However, you had to open the case to change the resistor.
Joe H

I just watched Taken and the sub is hitting real hard.The whole house was shaking during the chase scene.I have no idea how the sub was working the old way I had it hooked upI have a feeling one of my bratty kids knocked the wire out at some point and just shoved it in the first opening they saw on the back of the sub!!Thanks again for the help guys.Since the sub is older and not really for a 5.1 system,should I consider a new one?I paid $750 new for that sub back in '94.

If you are happy with it, there is no reason to change (unless you have upgraditis ). It's a good sub, even if the connections are not state of the art. You could improve the hookup, but, again, if you are happy, why bother?

How would I improve the hookup?I would like to try the alternate hookup to compare it to the way it's hooked up now.Maybe there is a whole new sound out there that I don't know about

Today I was trying to hook up my Iphone to my VSX-01 and I kept getting Error 1. Has anyone else had this problem, and if so, what did you do to fix this?? I tried for about 10 minutes and Still received the Error message.. Thanks in advance..

Iphone is up to date..

Depending on your room layout, it may be a PITA, but that sub was designed to run from speaker wire. The "right" way to hook it up would be to run speaker wire from the front R/L outputs on the receiver into the sub, then out to the main (R/L) speakers. Then you set the R/L fronts to "Large," and the sub to No/Off in the AVR. You wouldn't use the RCA cable at all. (The RCA connections are really intended for separates or receivers that have direct connections to the amp section, which few if any do anymore. )

The sub then handles the crossover and the AVR stays out of it, which avoids the cascading crossover issues rman222 and I referred to earlier. The sub is a little harder to calibrate this way, as the AVR can't fine tune the LFE for you. To get it accurate, you'd need as SPL meter and test tones.

Thanks Macfan.If you were me,would you rewire the sub the way you suggested?Do you think it would sound better that way?

What iPhone do you have? (orig? 3G? 3Gs?). I think the 01 only works with the orig iPhone.

I would, but I'm a fanatic.

To those who are less OCD, I'd say if you're happy with it as is, leave well enough alone. The sound quality would probably improve, but that doesn't mean you'd like it better. Lot's of people deliberately degrade the quality of their bass because they like the way it sounds, even though it is not the accurate response people like me obsess over.

Oh,I have OCD when it comes to that.I have been known to wake up in the middle of the night when I feel as though I haven't finished something that I have started.The only problem I see is that I won't be able to fine tune the sub because I don't have the proper equiptment.

When watching something with Lossless Audio format, all I get in the display window on the 01 is PCM. Is that normal? The manual says check your player to make sure it is not set to output to PCM which mine is not (Sony...BDP-S550). Isn't the PCM basicaly identical to the lossless codecs in terms of quality?

Any help would be appreciated!

What have you set your output to, if not PCM? You might have to explicitly tell the player to bitstream. If your 01 is displaying PCM, that's what it's getting.

On the other hand, you're right. Decoded PCM is identical to the lossless codecs. You're just moving the decoding from the player, into the AVR.

This whole business of THD and DTS MA decoding in the receivers is highly suspect anyway. It used to be a necessity back in the day, because there was no way to digitally transmit the decoded DTS/DD tracks, so you had to bitstream them via SPDIF, or use a 5.1 (or 6.1) analog connection. Nowadays with HDMI capable of multichannel PCM, there should be no need for bitstreaming, or at least it shouldn't be nearly as important as most people make it to be.

I say "should" because with some software players, they deliberately, or having bugs, mess with the sound, and the only way to be sure to have undisturbed audio right now it's to bitstream, but that's a workaround to a different problem bitstreaming just happened to come in handy with.

Andy,

Thanks for the quick reply. I have a Sony-BDPsS550. There is no choice that says bitstream. Just says Dolby Digital, DTS (gives you option to downmix to pcm). I do not have that choice selected in either case.

I think this is just me wanting to see a little light come on when in "theory" the sound should be identical. Home Theater Magazine says for example that even their discerning ears cannot tell the difference and they doubt all but the most sensitive audiophiles could.

Sound is great. Am running Artisan Portraits up front, Artison surrounds and Artisan inwall sub.



Marc

i was told (albeit from a salesman) that the cable from the new line (that even the 919 comes with) will work with the old elites...you should be able to order it from pioneer...they're also given out like candy to best buy employees apparently...

i took a gander at the cable & it's split...it looks like to me they go digitally from the iPhone to the usb port to handle pics/videos/phone calls, but then use a single rca for the audio...as in analog line out for the audio, digital for everything else so they can market it as a digital audio cable...

i didn't get to handle the cable, though, so maybe both parts of it are in fact digital in which case the iPhone's dacs would be bypassed (hurray!)...

in either case, when they say iPhone compatible instead of iPod compatible on their site, they probably just mean it's iPhone 3G & Touch 2G compatible instead of the older models...they have different pin outs...

i've seen it mentioned elsewhere (somewhere) in this forum from an owner that it is fully digital, but haven't seen it in use...