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post #391 of 3242
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Originally Posted by Dave Mack View Post

Best current place to order the VSX01TXH from...?

I thought it was somewhere in this thread, but now I can't find it. Try Will2 at videogon. It used to be under receivers, 7.1 but you can still find it by searching with the model number (without the dash). He charges a flat shipping rate of $49 in spite of what their shipping calculator will tell you. I used videogon to message him with my contact info and he called me. That's how I did it. Still not sure exactly what's kosher here. I have no connection to him at all except for my tracking number says delivery this Tuesday.
post #392 of 3242
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Originally Posted by Darth Indy View Post

No question MCACC is better, atleast to me. I had Onkyo 805 and used audyssey but never could be extremely happy with the results given. Just got Pio Elite 01, ran MCACC one time and thus far am blown away by my audio experience now. Plus Onkyo's run EXTREMELY hot and have a few other issues here and there. Just coming from an Onkyo to a Pio I would say go Pio and don't look back.

I too am impressed with the small amount of heat generated by my Pioneer 1018. Out of curiosity, I tested its power consumption with a Kill-A-Watt meter. At idle, it draws 53 watts. That's a bit less than my old Denon AVR-2805 (71 watts) and substantially less than the Onkyo 805 (135 watts). My impression is that the Pioneer amplifier is stronger than the Denon, which suggests a more efficient design.
post #393 of 3242
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Originally Posted by PackFan View Post

Just got the 03 and set it up last night...

It is replacing a Pioneer Elite 74 - do you think I'll notice the loss in power? The 74 was 140 x 7... Is it worth the price to go up to the next level Pioneer Elite receiver?

The new remote seems like a big step down over the old one... Is there a way to set it up to run my DirecTV DVR?

The difference in power is only -1.05dB - a barely noticeable difference (and then only when played near maximum volume levels). {10xlog(110/140) = -1.047dB}

Is the price difference going to the next level of Elite AVR is a value judgment only you can make. The SC-05/07 are better units, but their price premium might not be of value to you. See http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...026938&page=20 or http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1057599 for those threads.

If you want to control your D* DVR from the 03's remote - good luck. Using a universal remote control would be a better choice (Harmony or Universal - see http://www.projectorreviews.com/prog...otes/index.php), IMHO.
post #394 of 3242
guys is it an error that the vsx-01 does not have dolby digital or dts 5.1 support???? How can that be? Must be a typo on pioneer's website right?

Beside that, I don't see much of a difference between the 01 and 03 except the 03 has hdmi jitter reduction and an aluminum case?

am I missing something?
post #395 of 3242
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Originally Posted by dxjnorto View Post

Let us know what you decide. It seems that the BDP-S350 would do the best job since it is built to play video discs. (Despite Faroudja, which sounds like something great, but is probably some guy's name.)

I should make a correction. Blu-ray is not more than six times the resolution of 480p (720x480) it IS six times exactly. (1920x1080 is 2.25 times the number of pixels of 1280x720.) I know there's all kinds of other details with compression and what not that affect picture quality too. Once a superior format comes along the old format is just that - old. I wouldn't buy a piece of equipment based on its upscaler. SD looks terrible on my 1280x720 TV, so I got rid of it as soon as I could. Now all I have to complain about is Dish's sometimes horribly compressed "HD lite." (Voom was much better.) One of the worst offenders is TNT. They stretch pan and scan versions of movies to widescreen. My guess is they want on the bandwagon but don't care about HD or PQ at all. I honestly can't watch it. If I watch it at all, I have to shrink it back to what it is.

So far, I'd say the Sony and my TV are better upscalers. Faroudja's DCDi is world renowned but I guess the other upscalers have caught up and surpassed it's performance- unless I have some settings screwed up on my 01.
post #396 of 3242
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Originally Posted by KKfromLA View Post

guys is it an error that the vsx-01 does not have dolby digital or dts 5.1 support???? How can that be? Must be a typo on pioneer's website right?

Beside that, I don't see much of a difference between the 01 and 03 except the 03 has hdmi jitter reduction and an aluminum case?

am I missing something?

It's an oversight on the web page. DD and DTS are so ubiquitous these days that manufacturers often don't bother to mention them anymore. They do include the logos on their brochure, even though they don't specifically list them as features.

From the manual (one of many references there): "This receiver will automatically decode multichannel Dolby Digital, DTS, or Dolby Surround sources according to your speaker setup."

The 03 has one more optical input in addition to the things you mention. (It also has a Sub Remote Control for Zone 2, which might be of value to some.)
post #397 of 3242
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Originally Posted by dxjnorto View Post

I thought it was somewhere in this thread, but now I can't find it. Try Will2 at videogon. It used to be under receivers, 7.1 but you can still find it by searching with the model number (without the dash). He charges a flat shipping rate of $49 in spite of what their shipping calculator will tell you. I used videogon to message him with my contact info and he called me. That's how I did it. Still not sure exactly what's kosher here. I have no connection to him at all except for my tracking number says delivery this Tuesday.

I bought a 94 Elite from Will2 last spring for a great price. No problems- although he didn't double box (the box arrived in perfect shape thankfully.) I'm thinking about buying a -01 for my parents for xmas- I will likely buy from him again.
post #398 of 3242
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Originally Posted by dxjnorto View Post

...Try Will2 at videogon...I have no connection to him at all...

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Originally Posted by pnkflyd51 View Post

...I will likely buy from him again.

+1

I bought an 01 from them for my daughter in a different state. Very smooth transaction. They shipped within an hour or so after receiving payment.

BTW, their 01 listing is still up on Videogon under 7.1 receivers.
post #399 of 3242
Broken record.......Anyone know what type of dacs are in the vsx-03txh, I read somewhere it might be Freescale.
post #400 of 3242
I asked this of Pioneer Support in an email and they replied "Please call our Parts department as they will be more suited to answer your question." I haven't gotten around to calling yet during business hours. I'm not even sure that they would be able to tell me, other than give me the Pioneer part number and price for the entire board.

I would like to know out of curiosity but I'm guessing my assumption that the 3 Burr-Brown audio DAC's in my Elite DV-79AVi are better than whatever is in the 01 and that my use of multi channel analog for that DVD player is justified.

I'd be happy to hear if anyone has the time to follow up on this.
post #401 of 3242
Took the plunge.......the 03 is on the way.
post #402 of 3242
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Originally Posted by Macfan424 View Post

+1

I bought an 01 from them for my daughter in a different state. Very smooth transaction. They shipped within an hour or so after receiving payment.

BTW, their 01 listing is still up on Videogon under 7.1 receivers.

wow excellent prices... but is the guy legit? Is it brand new, not refurbished? Would warranty transfer over? The prices are slightly better than ebay...
post #403 of 3242
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Originally Posted by KKfromLA View Post

wow excellent prices... but is the guy legit? Is it brand new, not refurbished? Would warranty transfer over? The prices are slightly better than ebay...

Yes to all. You can talk to him on the phone if you like (don't recall if phone is listed in ad, but he will send it if you email).
post #404 of 3242
Just picked one up on E-Bay (vsx-01) with Live.com 30% cashback below 4 bills.
post #405 of 3242
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Originally Posted by Macfan424 View Post

Yes to all. You can talk to him on the phone if you like (don't recall if phone is listed in ad, but he will send it if you email).

yea i spoke with them today, thank you guys for the info.

Unfortunately, they are not willing to through it up on ebay, so it is much more cost effective for me to just buy a higher priced unit on ebay and use the 30% off..
post #406 of 3242
Wow. How'd you rate 30% off on eBay? They only gave me 10% off.
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Can the 03 be setup to output all sources via the hdmi out? In other words can component and composite be upscaled and output throught the HDMI?

I don't want a bunch of wires run to the display.

BTW got the unit today, read about 20% of the manual.......man that thing is sexy.
post #409 of 3242
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Originally Posted by NicksHitachi View Post

Can the 03 be setup to output all sources via the hdmi out? In other words can component and composite be upscaled and output throught the HDMI?

I don't want a bunch of wires run to the display.

BTW got the unit today, read about 20% of the manual.......man that thing is sexy.

Yes, it can. Let me know how you like the upscaling quality as I found it to be questionable. I'm waiting to hear the impressions from other owners. Seems my TV and Blu-Ray player do better job than the Faroudja DCDi in the Pio. I have my DirecTV HR22 going straight into the TV via HDMI with an opticial out into my 01 so I don't need to use the receiver to watch TV all the time.
post #410 of 3242
I just got my 03...loving it so far.

On the HDMI connections, should I connect my PS3 in the HDMI port labeled "BD IN"?

Is that port any different than the other HDMI ports?
post #411 of 3242
Has anyone compared how to 01 or 03 would stack up against an Onkyo 805? I'm looking to upgrade and stuck between the three. The price range has the 01 within $100 of the 03 and the Onkyo smack dab between them.

Everyone I talk to makes such a big deal about the Onkyo having Burr Brown Dacs. Do the Elites have this?
post #412 of 3242
Smitty24 -- Yes. It's not different, but it is designed as the default for BD players.

septim -- I would, personally, chose the Pioneer's over the Onkyo's any day, at any price. The Pioneers are bullet-proof relative to the Onkyo's and they also run a lot cooler, with fewer reported problems, IMHO. The Elite models replaced their Burr-Brown DACs with better ones.

My first Pioneer Elite AVR is still going strong in it's second owner's home, and it's over 20 years old. My second Pioneer (8 years old) is being replaced, only because it doesn't have HDMI inputs (it's going into bedroom duty).
post #413 of 3242
OK so just got all the wires needed to finish installing the 03. I ran the 5 minute mccac calibration and put on sunshine blue ray and all I have to say is one word..............YUCK. I was hoping for way more "out of the box." Hopefully with some more tweaking I will be able to become more satisfied with my purchase.

Gripes:
1. Where's the power? I had to run the volume ~0db for the audio to become approximate to what my old yamaha sounded like. The max gain is +12db!!!! The old yamaha was way louder with even about 30-40db of gain left on the dial!
2. Sound was flat and had no punch at all.
3. MCCAC set all speakers to LARGE.


I admit, I did not have time before coming in to work to fully go through all the "expert" setup stuff or even set the speakers back to SMALL, but Wow I really expected more out of the box.

Did the "Expert" calibration setup, reset speaker size and distance. Major improvement. WAY better than my old yammie, but this is what I expected for the money. Still plenty of options to tweak yet and already very pleased. Next the Pro EQ and an SP meter to finish it out. I'll update later.
post #414 of 3242
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Originally Posted by CT_Wiebe View Post

Smitty24 -- Yes. It's not different, but it is designed as the default for BD players.

septim -- I would, personally, chose the Pioneer's over the Onkyo's any day, at any price. The Pioneers are bullet-proof relative to the Onkyo's and they also run a lot cooler, with fewer reported problems, IMHO. The Elite models replaced their Burr-Brown DACs with better ones.

My first Pioneer Elite AVR is still going strong in it's second owner's home, and it's over 20 years old. My second Pioneer (8 years old) is being replaced, only because it doesn't have HDMI inputs (it's going into bedroom duty).

Replaced their Burr-Brown DACs with better ones like what? I have looked all over to find out about the DACs in my 03 and have come up empty handed.
post #415 of 3242
Hi Guys my first post. I have been lurking for a while now and I am newbie
to mid range audio. I been looking to upgrade my Kenwood HTIB 600w system.
So I went to buy a receiver at Tweeter. I saw on their site a vsx-92thx on sale
but when I got there they were sold out. The salesman talked me into getting
vsx-01thx on sale also. I thought it was a good deal and it was my birthday
When he checked the inventory there was none in the store so
he said he would get one from another store personally the next day. That was disappointing because a wanted it right then but reluctantly agreed to wait.
The next day I returned to the store an my salesman had called in sick and that
the 01 was not at the other store. The manager said he had a demo model
that he would sale to me as new with another 10% off. I told him as long as
it was not damaged fine. After I got home with the unit I had not realized he had made a mistake an had given me VSX-03THX I returned to the store
for something else when my salesman informed me about the mix up. He said it was their mistake and that I could keep it.
post #416 of 3242
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Originally Posted by sam1460 View Post

He said it was their mistake and that I could keep it.

Happy birthday to you
post #417 of 3242
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Originally Posted by NicksHitachi View Post

Replaced their Burr-Brown DACs with better ones like what? I have looked all over to find out about the DACs in my 03 and have come up empty handed.

I don't know. I haven't kept up with the Pioneer details. They are using Wolfson DACs in some of their units. They also may have used proprietary DAC modules that are OEM from an unnamed source.
post #418 of 3242
Anyone know a good resource to educate me on how to interpret the graphical display if the frequency response on the Pro EQ? It gives a graphical representation, OK, and I understand what the X and Y axis units are, but don't understand what to do with the data.

Going to plunder Pioneerelectronics.com now.......
post #419 of 3242
As this is the official thread of 2 receivers shouldent the first post be the specs/issues/comaprison and info about/between the 2 products?
post #420 of 3242
My 03 does not show volume on screen during movie watching, but not sure if it can. Not sure about 1080/24 because I don't use it. Multiple seating positions are used only during standing wave correction with expert setup, which I don't use unless I have guests. Six different memory presets for room correction, I have one setup to place "sweet spot" in the middle of my available seating positions with 3pt standing wave control. The one I mainly use, "Sweet Spot" is where I sit with 1pt standing wave. I Switch it up when I have guests over.

MCACC is better than MY ear, but haven't tried out the Aydessy(sp?) on Denons or Onkyo. Reliability/Heat/Lip sync/Popping was the concern for the Onk, and wasn't impressed with what I read about the Denon either. Completely happy with what I got.

Hope this helps.
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