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post #91 of 3242
8/21/08 at 9:53pm
I'm ending my 3rd week with mine and have zero complaints (except the crappy remote but I can use the 1014's instead). I can elaborate more when I get this system THX calibrated in a few weeks. So far, it has performed flawlessly. The new less heat, more efficient amps are not just hype!
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post #92 of 3242
8/22/08 at 7:36am
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Originally Posted by Trackman View Post

I'm ending my 3rd week with mine and have zero complaints (except the crappy remote but I can use the 1014's instead). I can elaborate more when I get this system THX calibrated in a few weeks. So far, it has performed flawlessly. The new less heat, more efficient amps are not just hype!

Right on my brother! I got a set of Klipsch Quintet III speakers yesterday, mated them to a Boston Acoustics subwoofer, put in Star Wars Revenge of the Sith and let it rip. I almost blew my roof off. The sound was amazing. The bad thing was that my phone rang and I couldn't find the remote to mute the AVR so I'm trying to speak to someone with these insane, booming effects blasting from the next room
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post #93 of 3242
8/22/08 at 4:06pm
After a few weeks of researching, I decided to purchase the VSX-01. After making my decision, I started looking around, trying to find the best price out there. As I was doing this, I talked to a co-worker about what I was looking to buy. This co-worker also has a part time job at BB (he works a few nights a week and a few hours on Sunday's). Just for the heck of it, I gave him the sku and asked him to get a price for me. WOW, I can't believe the markup on this receiver. So if you have a friend or family member that works at BB, make sure you talk to them first before buying this receiver. You'll be in for a nice surprise.
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post #94 of 3242
8/23/08 at 7:34am
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After a few weeks of researching, I decided to purchase the VSX-01. After making my decision, I started looking around, trying to find the best price out there. As I was doing this, I talked to a co-worker about what I was looking to buy. This co-worker also has a part time job at BB (he works a few nights a week and a few hours on Sunday's). Just for the heck of it, I gave him the sku and asked him to get a price for me. WOW, I can't believe the markup on this receiver. So if you have a friend or family member that works at BB, make sure you talk to them first before buying this receiver. You'll be in for a nice surprise.

Doesn't surprise me......electronics for the most part have large markups.
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post #95 of 3242
8/23/08 at 7:28pm
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Originally Posted by Action378 View Post

After a few weeks of researching, I decided to purchase the VSX-01. After making my decision, I started looking around, trying to find the best price out there. As I was doing this, I talked to a co-worker about what I was looking to buy. This co-worker also has a part time job at BB (he works a few nights a week and a few hours on Sunday's). Just for the heck of it, I gave him the sku and asked him to get a price for me. WOW, I can't believe the markup on this receiver. So if you have a friend or family member that works at BB, make sure you talk to them first before buying this receiver. You'll be in for a nice surprise.

Doesn't surprise me either. Non-authorized Internet dealers sell these for 25-35% off so the big box stores will probably have similar markups.
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post #96 of 3242
8/24/08 at 11:26am
Sound dropouts with Dolby Digital Plus.

I've had my receiver for 2 weeks now, went thru the setup etc etc, before the upgrade I had my A35 player setup using analogs out so, I went ahead and changed the audio output setups for bitstreaming, so that the AVR does the decoding, everything seemed good, the receiver recognized the signals perfectly, but then I popped in Transformers HD DVD, and every few seconds I get a drop in sound that lasts maybe a split second, but it happens pretty often thoroughout the movie, at first I thought it was my disc since it had some minor scratches, but then I tried other discs with Dolby Digital Plus tracks, same thing happened, all other PCM, DTS Master audio, and Dolby True HD work perfectly on either my A35 or PS3, the only one doing this is Digital Plus, I wonder if it's a problem with the receiver or the player, never had sound drop outs when I used analogs out with decoding assigned to the player, anyway, any suggestions?
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post #97 of 3242
8/24/08 at 12:43pm
Does this receiver run really hot? Because I plan on putting my Comcast DVR on top, as the DVR runs hot so this needs to go on top.
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post #98 of 3242
8/24/08 at 7:16pm
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Does this receiver run really hot? Because I plan on putting my Comcast DVR on top, as the DVR runs hot so this needs to go on top.

The 01THX runs relatively cool. Do you mean that you are putting the DVR directly on top of the AVR? I hope not. Under no circumstances would this be a good idea. AVRs vent through the top, rear and sometimes the sides. If your DVR is a Motorola it gets pretty hot on its own and needs plenty of breathing space itself.
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post #99 of 3242
8/25/08 at 9:39am
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Originally Posted by mcdon283 View Post

Does this receiver run really hot? Because I plan on putting my Comcast DVR on top, as the DVR runs hot so this needs to go on top.

The 01 runs pretty cool by AVR standards but I would give at least 3 inches of room on top, maybe even more if you like to listen at reference levels.
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post #100 of 3242
8/25/08 at 5:16pm
From reading this thread and my understanding of the manual, there is no upconversion of the video signal through the HDMI connection on the VSX-01THX and VSX-03THX as it is purely pass through for HDMI connections on these two receivers. I wanted to confirm that if I connect a DVD player with HDMI connection which upscales to 1080P then the receiver will just pass through the 1080P signal to the monitor/display.

Thanks,
Yung
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post #101 of 3242
8/25/08 at 7:13pm
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Originally Posted by Yung View Post

From reading this thread and my understanding of the manual, there is no upconversion of the video signal through the HDMI connection on the VSX-01THX and VSX-03THX as it is purely pass through for HDMI connections on these two receivers. I wanted to confirm that if I connect a DVD player with HDMI connection which upscales to 1080P then the receiver will just pass through the 1080P signal to the monitor/display.

Thanks,
Yung

That sounds about right.
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post #102 of 3242
8/25/08 at 10:36pm
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Originally Posted by Tobi54 View Post

Sound dropouts with Dolby Digital Plus.

I've had my receiver for 2 weeks now, went thru the setup etc etc, before the upgrade I had my A35 player setup using analogs out so, I went ahead and changed the audio output setups for bitstreaming, so that the AVR does the decoding, everything seemed good, the receiver recognized the signals perfectly, but then I popped in Transformers HD DVD, and every few seconds I get a drop in sound that lasts maybe a split second, but it happens pretty often thoroughout the movie, at first I thought it was my disc since it had some minor scratches, but then I tried other discs with Dolby Digital Plus tracks, same thing happened, all other PCM, DTS Master audio, and Dolby True HD work perfectly on either my A35 or PS3, the only one doing this is Digital Plus, I wonder if it's a problem with the receiver or the player, never had sound drop outs when I used analogs out with decoding assigned to the player, anyway, any suggestions?

It isn't just your unit - bitstreaming from my XA2, DD+ also had the same issue on mine with Tomb Raider, only maybe once every 5 minutes. I switched to DTS - no dropouts. Also, True HD on two different Star Trek episodes - no dropouts. So, we likely have a DD+ decoding bug in the 01. Now, this sucks, as lots of HD-DVDs use DD+. But - 1. We can simply decode in the player and send PCM; and 2. It won't impact SD-DVDs or BluRays (which don't use DD+). We will need to check a 640Kps DD track on BluRay just to make sure though. So, in the grand scheme of things, no big deal.
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post #103 of 3242
8/26/08 at 8:28am
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Originally Posted by Yung View Post

From reading this thread and my understanding of the manual, there is no upconversion of the video signal through the HDMI connection on the VSX-01THX and VSX-03THX as it is purely pass through for HDMI connections on these two receivers. I wanted to confirm that if I connect a DVD player with HDMI connection which upscales to 1080P then the receiver will just pass through the 1080P signal to the monitor/display.

Thanks,
Yung

Confirmed.
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post #104 of 3242
8/26/08 at 11:59am
This may the norm for all of you, but just thought i'd share that i calibrated my speakers last night using for the first time using the radio shake sound meter (analog). The difference was very noticable. I was curious how well the automated program work and discovered i needed to make some pretty significant changes.

If you haven't tried this out - i'd recommend picking one up.

-ah
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post #105 of 3242
8/26/08 at 1:25pm
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Originally Posted by Tobi54 View Post

Sound dropouts with Dolby Digital Plus.

I've had my receiver for 2 weeks now, went thru the setup etc etc, before the upgrade I had my A35 player setup using analogs out so, I went ahead and changed the audio output setups for bitstreaming, so that the AVR does the decoding, everything seemed good, the receiver recognized the signals perfectly, but then I popped in Transformers HD DVD, and every few seconds I get a drop in sound that lasts maybe a split second, but it happens pretty often thoroughout the movie, at first I thought it was my disc since it had some minor scratches, but then I tried other discs with Dolby Digital Plus tracks, same thing happened, all other PCM, DTS Master audio, and Dolby True HD work perfectly on either my A35 or PS3, the only one doing this is Digital Plus, I wonder if it's a problem with the receiver or the player, never had sound drop outs when I used analogs out with decoding assigned to the player, anyway, any suggestions?

Update - folks in the 1018 thread advise that this is a Tosh player issue, not an AVR issue.
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post #106 of 3242
8/26/08 at 2:17pm
Go michigan state!
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post #107 of 3242
8/26/08 at 7:55pm
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Originally Posted by tallguylikacurry View Post

This may the norm for all of you, but just thought i'd share that i calibrated my speakers last night using for the first time using the radio shake sound meter (analog). The difference was very noticable. I was curious how well the automated program work and discovered i needed to make some pretty significant changes.

If you haven't tried this out - i'd recommend picking one up.

-ah

I've found that MCACC always gets some things wrong. It always sets my front speakers to large for some reason, easily solved through the manual setup. It never quite gets the distances correct, again easy to adjust. I've found that it generally pegs the channel levels at around 75db which I believe is consistent with it's use of the the reference volume level. I always get my SPL meter out and raise the channel levels to around 80db for the fronts, center and sub and a bit higher for the surrounds. It's just a personal preference because I don't like jacking the master volume higher than -20 or so. I haven't played with the actual EQ settings yet because I'm pretty satisfied with the tonal quality, especially when I use the THX mode.
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post #108 of 3242
8/26/08 at 8:03pm
I just want to make sure my reciever is OK. Whenever I play from my Toshiba A1 in the PCM mode my receiver always says "PCM 96Khz". Obviously the audio from DD+ tracks is not 96 khz. I'm assuming the receiver always does this. I set the DVD player to bitstream and it always comes in stereo. I'm assumed this is because my A1 can't bitstream DD+?

Also, do you have to run the MCACC again in order to change the speaker settings to "small". Every time I go into the setup it doesn't let me move unless I run the speaker setup.

Thanks.

I love the receiver by the way. I replaced a Pioneer Elite VSX-26.
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post #109 of 3242
8/26/08 at 8:56pm
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I just want to make sure my reciever is OK. Whenever I play from my Toshiba A1 in the PCM mode my receiver always says "PCM 96Khz". Obviously the audio from DD+ tracks is not 96 khz. I'm assuming the receiver always does this. I set the DVD player to bitstream and it always comes in stereo. I'm assumed this is because my A1 can't bitstream DD+?

Also, do you have to run the MCACC again in order to change the speaker settings to "small". Every time I go into the setup it doesn't let me move unless I run the speaker setup.

Thanks.

I love the receiver by the way. I replaced a Pioneer Elite VSX-26.

My Toshiba A2 does the same thing via the HDMI output. It's a limitation of the the player not the receiver. One of the nice things about MCACC is that you can change the distances, size and channel levels and the EQ settings are not affected. Plus you can copy any MCACC settings from one memory slot to another and tweak away so that the original settings are preserved.
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post #110 of 3242
8/27/08 at 6:23am
Correct me if I am wrong here, but, I thought that the reason for discrepencies in distance settings was because of phase issues.

So as the MCACC or any other set up program, not only adjusts for levels, and distance but also for frequency response and phase and timing (how long it takes for the signal to arrive at the listening location).

To me this is the advanced part of auto set up, as opposed to the rudimentary set up found in less advanced, older equipment.

I would only change the speaker settings from large to small and live with these settings to see how it all sounds, before making other changes.

Regards,

Tom
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post #111 of 3242
8/27/08 at 8:04am
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Correct me if I am wrong here, but, I thought that the reason for discrepencies in distance settings was because of phase issues.

So as the MCACC or any other set up program, not only adjusts for levels, and distance but also for frequency response and phase and timing (how long it takes for the signal to arrive at the listening location).

To me this is the advanced part of auto set up, as opposed to the rudimentary set up found in less advanced, older equipment.

I would only change the speaker settings from large to small and live with these settings to see how it all sounds, before making other changes.

Regards,

Tom

You could be right Tom. The info on MCACC is really lacking in a lot of ways so sometimes it's hard to know these things (has anyone seen an understandable, comprehensive document on MCACC?). When I get home today I'll run MCACC again, save the settings to the MCACC 2 memory slot and compare them to my modified settings on MCACC 1. I still may boost the channel levels since I find the 75db standard to be too low for me but as long as I do that in the same increments on all channels it shouldn't impact the other settings. Of course I can just copy MCACC 2 to MCACC 3 and do the channel level changes there. That's one thing that I love about the Pios. You can instantly do up to 6 audio setting comparisons if you want to.
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post #112 of 3242
8/27/08 at 8:53am
I ran into my first oddity last night. I wanted to matrix DTS 5.1 from my XA2 to my rear surround but I couldn't get any matrix mode to come up via Adv. Surround on the remote. It kept saying "Can't Select". On THX mode, no surround option came up, just Cinema, Music and Game. Yet, the rear surround is on in setup and DD EX is automatically being applied to TV/Sat DD broadcasts, so I know the 01 is seeing the rear and that the forced matrixing is set to on. What am I missing? My daughter is with me all week and just started school, so I am taking the easy way out by posting rather than spending the time to experiment. I know it is some silly little thing I am overlooking.
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post #113 of 3242
8/27/08 at 7:41pm
Never mind - I had it on Direct from listening to cds the week before.
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post #114 of 3242
8/28/08 at 7:56am
I did run MCACC again yesterday and it pretty much came up with its typical settings: distances up to a foot more than the actual number, fronts on Large and channel levels in the low -db area which normally gives a 75db reading on my SPL meter. Once again, though, the subwoofer level was way too low at -7.5db. I usually leave the sub's volume control at the mid point during setup. I did some searching and read some posts about older Pioneer AVRS with MCACC. They stated that you should leave the sub's volume control to almost 0 when you run MCACC because if it's raised, MCACC tends to misread the sub's output. I'll try it later today.
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post #115 of 3242
8/28/08 at 12:23pm
Quick question for you owners. This receiver is on my short list, however, it doesn't have an AC plug at the back. I usually use this to power some fans to vent my equipment rack when I turn on the receiver. I guess I need some ideas to do this another way.
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post #116 of 3242
8/28/08 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by Cuervo View Post

Quick question for you owners. This receiver is on my short list, however, it doesn't have an AC plug at the back. I usually use this to power some fans to vent my equipment rack when I turn on the receiver. I guess I need some ideas to do this another way.

I'm looking at getting one of these:

http://www.russound.com/act1.htm

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...an+Auto+Switch

The Russound can turn on my amp via the 12 volt trigger from the receiver (I use a seperate amp to power a second set of front speakers and it doesn't have an 12 volt input). The cost of the ACT-1 is around $100 but I've seen it on ebay for about $60.

The Craftsman is a lot cheaper so I'm going pick one up tomorrow and try it out first.
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post #117 of 3242
8/29/08 at 7:20am
Just picked up the 01 two days ago. I haven't run MCACC yet because I am waiting for my second HDMI cable to come in. But out of the box my speakers have come to life!! I am running B&W 603s2 for fronts and they sing. A great neutral sound. BY the way the manual is confusing. Perhaps I have low reading comprehension but I cannot figure out how to run the mutilple seating calibration. Does that option need to be chosen in the custom menu before running calibration or will it ask you choose it after initial setup?
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post #118 of 3242
8/29/08 at 7:56am
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Originally Posted by AV HAZE View Post

Perhaps I have low reading comprehension but I cannot figure out how to run the mutilple seating calibration. Does that option need to be chosen in the custom menu before running calibration or will it ask you choose it after initial setup?

It won't ask you to choose. You have to set up a separate MCAAC setting for each listening postion and the use Data Management to choose which one you want.

Look under Data Management in the manual.

The cool think about Data Management is you can copy one MCAAC setting to another and adjust it. You can also name different MCAAC settings.
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post #119 of 3242
8/29/08 at 8:56pm
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Originally Posted by AV HAZE View Post

BY the way the manual is confusing. Perhaps I have low reading comprehension but I cannot figure out how to run the mutilple seating calibration. Does that option need to be chosen in the custom menu before running calibration or will it ask you choose it after initial setup?

The option is in the Custom options. It's Stand. Wave Multi-point. It lets you use 3 points with the third one being your primary listening position
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post #120 of 3242
8/30/08 at 10:19am
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The option is in the Custom options. It's Stand. Wave Multi-point. It lets you use 3 points with the third one being your primary listening position

Thanks. I will try that. Hopefully by moday I will have this thing rockin.
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