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post #10561 of 10755
Yes he is, and that's a pretty reasonable question. The Monitor series has a "blue screen" mode only for integrators. Unfortunately, I don't know if the 6020 has one.

AzJazz: Guess you'll have to look in your manual. If you have lost it, it's probably available on the Pioneer site.
post #10562 of 10755
Didn't know that about the monitors. Cool.
post #10563 of 10755
Hi -- I'm new to this forum. I own a 151FD and the new Oppo 103. I am uncertain whether the 151FD is displaying 24p. My last blu ray player was a Pioneer Elite 95FD. If I recall correctly, when I set the Pioneer 95FD to 24p, the 151FD would display "1080p 24" on the screen. With the new Oppo, it says "1080p 36bit." Does that mean that the 151FD isn't displaying 24p with the Oppo?

I've tried all the Procinema settings with the Oppo set to 1080 24p. I've also tried with the Oppo set to Source Direct. Still, I can't get the 151FD to show "1080p 24" on the screen.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Bryon
post #10564 of 10755
that is correct i believe
post #10565 of 10755
Sorry to bring up an old subject, but I did try searching before posting this. I just picked up a used KRP-500m and set D-Nice's pure mode settings and the picture looks amazing when watching blu-rays on my Elite blu-ray player, but I can't seem to match the black levels when watching video through my XBOX 360 (Windows media extender). I do 95% of my viewing on my XBOX, so I really need it to work. I've read about the RGB auto-swtiching bug in the KRP (never had the issue with my 5020).

So, can someone tell me which are the absolute best settings on the KRP-500 and XBOX 360?

XBOX
Reference Levels - Standard, Intermediate, Expanded
HDMI Color Space - Auto, Source, RGB, YCbCr709, etc.
KRP-500m
Auto
YUV422
YUV444
RGB16-235
RGB 0-255

It's unfortunate, because I use my AVR to switch HDMI inputs and it seems my Elite BD player uses the YUV422 setting, so I may have to manually switch it each time.

Any info is appreciated.

Thanks,
Sean
Edited by sean.scott - 11/24/12 at 12:25pm
post #10566 of 10755
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Originally Posted by sean.scott View Post

Sorry to bring up an old subject, but I did try searching before posting this. I just picked up a used KRP-500m and set D-Nice's pure mode settings and the picture looks amazing when watching blu-rays on my Elite blu-ray player, but I can't seem to match the black levels when watching video through my XBOX 360 (Windows media extender). I do 95% of my viewing on my XBOX, so I really need it to work. I've read about the RGB auto-swtiching bug in the KRP (never had the issue with my 5020).
So, can someone tell me which are the absolute best settings on the KRP-500 and XBOX 360?
XBOX
Reference Levels - Standard, Intermediate, Expanded
HDMI Color Space - Auto, Source, RGB, YCbCr709, etc.
KRP-500m
Auto
YUV422
YUV444
RGB16-235
RGB 0-255
It's unfortunate, because I use my AVR to switch HDMI inputs and it seems my Elite BD player uses the YUV422 setting, so I may have to manually switch it each time.
Any info is appreciated.
Thanks,
Sean

Have you read this: http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/general_discussion/f/135/t/171713.aspx Zacabeb seems to know what he is talking about. It seems the xbox has a cascading colorspace error that doesn't make things easy.
post #10567 of 10755
I have a Kuro Elite Pro -111FD but am hungering a bigger screen. Have read the CNet review where much love was expressed for the Panny's. However he ends with this-

"The only TVs that can compete with the Panasonic VT50 are the Sharp Elite and, yes, that hoary veteran the Pioneer Kuro (circa 2008). Ignoring size differences (the Kuro maxed out at 60 inches) and the fact that you can't get one anymore, I actually would still rather watch the Kuro than this Panasonic -- but it's very close."

That said I can get a Kuro 6020 for about $1700 locally from a professor at UCLA. I don't care about 3d or streamiong (Oppo does that) nore will I use the display to surf. Now that said; new features and tech is nice but in the end it's about the picture quality.

Any opinions? 6020 much of a step down from the Elite? Would it really make that much difference to go from a 50" to a 60"?
post #10568 of 10755
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Originally Posted by Glashub View Post

I have a Kuro Elite Pro -111FD but am hungering a bigger screen. Have read the CNet review where much love was expressed for the Panny's. However he ends with this-
"The only TVs that can compete with the Panasonic VT50 are the Sharp Elite and, yes, that hoary veteran the Pioneer Kuro (circa 2008). Ignoring size differences (the Kuro maxed out at 60 inches) and the fact that you can't get one anymore, I actually would still rather watch the Kuro than this Panasonic -- but it's very close."
That said I can get a Kuro 6020 for about $1700 locally from a professor at UCLA. I don't care about 3d or streamiong (Oppo does that) nore will I use the display to surf. Now that said; new features and tech is nice but in the end it's about the picture quality.
Any opinions? 6020 much of a step down from the Elite? Would it really make that much difference to go from a 50" to a 60"?

Same panel I believe, just not as many settings, which can be accessed by doing an E-Lite Mod (board swap) found on this forum.
My only concern would be that you're buying a 5-6 year old display.

At this point, if it were me, I would get a 65" VT50 and professionally calibrate it. They are excellent, and the only differences, that you may notice, would be in side-by-side comparisons.

P.S. A friend of mine was able to get a 65" VT50 for $2500 about a month or so ago, by negotiating. They have that Manufacture Price Protection plan where they can only advertise the price the Panasonic dictates, but they are free to negotiate and sell lower. So negotiate.
post #10569 of 10755
dsskid thanks for taking the time to reply. I arrived at the same conclusion you did about the Kuro. Appreciate the tip on being able to negotiate. BB I assume?
post #10570 of 10755
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Originally Posted by Glashub View Post

dsskid thanks for taking the time to reply. I arrived at the same conclusion you did about the Kuro. Appreciate the tip on being able to negotiate. BB I assume?

I have heard of people successfully negotiating the prices with Best Buy as well, when you speak to the manager, but in my friend's case, it was PC Richards.
post #10571 of 10755
Good old PC Richards..I remember the company from when I lived in NY. I think they've always been ready to do a deal. smile.gif

I like your quote by the way. I should've gotten a 60" back in the day but there was a $2k price difference and I had space problems that would've made it a tight fit. The Pro-111fd I have has been really great.
post #10572 of 10755
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Originally Posted by Glashub View Post

Good old PC Richards..I remember the company from when I lived in NY. I think they've always been ready to do a deal. smile.gif
I like your quote by the way. I should've gotten a 60" back in the day but there was a $2k price difference and I had space problems that would've made it a tight fit. The Pro-111fd I have has been really great.

Thanks, that quote is an original by me, and rings true. I have the Pro-111 in my den/cave, and sit roughly 8-9 ft from it. The 58" Panny is in my living room, and I wish it was a 65". In the back of my mind, I hope the Panny would crap out so I could go bigger, but it's still looking good and going strong.

If you want to go bigger and the funds aren't an issue, I'd relegate the Pioneer to your bedroom (or a second room), and wouldn't hesitate on pulling the trigger on the 65" VT50. The differences are small enough at this point, that the larger real estate would have a bigger impact on the viewing experience.

My apologies to everyone else for taking this thread somewhat off target.
post #10573 of 10755
dsskid, my 150FD was dead 1 year, 10 months old. Four months later I had a new 151FD, and that was over 2.5 years ago. So, I am glad you posted what you did, just in case.
post #10574 of 10755
You're lucky to have been able to get a new replacement. They dont last forever and once they are gone, they are gone. I'm glad the gap has closed.
post #10575 of 10755
The new one came from Pioneer with a new 2 year warranty. In April 2010 Pioneer still had a few new TVs in stock. When they made that "deal" with Panasonic, they were gone.
post #10576 of 10755
Quote:
Originally Posted by saprano View Post

Is is normal for the kuro to change brightness and color when going into picture settings? When i go to it the screen noticeably is brighter and it looks as if the color temp changes to cool. It's weird. To get it back to normal i have to change picture modes when i exit the menue. How am i suppose to adjust my picture settings like this?


Anybody else have this problem?


I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer. Anybody know why this happens?

It really sucks. I can't use the WOW disc correctly if the image changes when i go to picture.
post #10577 of 10755
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Originally Posted by saprano View Post

I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer. Anybody know why this happens?

It really sucks. I can't use the WOW disc correctly if the image changes when i go to picture.

Are you saying that your Kuro actually changes picture modes and/or color temp when you go in?
No, my Pro-111FD does not do this.
post #10578 of 10755
Quote:
Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

Are you saying that your Kuro actually changes picture modes and/or color temp when you go in?
No, my Pro-111FD does not do this.

Yes. The image changes. The color temp turns to a cool blue look and the brightness changes too. In order to get it back to normal I have to exit the picture menue and change the picture mode.

Anybody else have any ideas on what is causing this?
post #10579 of 10755
Saprano, please remind us the model of your display. Also, which picture menu are you talking about (which buttons are you pressing)? I seem to recall, in the 141FD, that there are some Integrator menus that will reset the current settings when you enter the menu. I don't think that it's the menu you're talking about, but I just want to be sure.

Dan.
post #10580 of 10755
My display is a 151. I'm using the home button on the remote to get to the picture options.

Home>Setup>Picture
post #10581 of 10755
Hey guys I have Kuro 151 pioneer elite bought it used not to long ago. I have recently noticed in certain angles of light when the screen is black a possible scratch on the bottom left of the screen. When I run my fingernail across it I don’t feel any edges. Which leads me to thinks it’s more of a scuff almost like it changed the color of black and made it slightly shinier. Is there something on the outside of the glass like a dark layer of film for anti reflection purposes? I expected minor issues with the panel since it’s used and when watching shows it’s not noticeable but I am just curious as to what type of damage this is and if it can be fixed?

One other thing I noticed when watching wide screen movies with the black bars on the top and bottom of the screen the very last lines of pixels bordering the black bar is slightly lighter tint then the following row of pixels both on the top and bottom. Again not a huge deal but something I have noticed. Is this normal or something that can be fixed?
post #10582 of 10755
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Originally Posted by foleyemuye View Post

Are there any D65 settings you could provide? Thanks so much for this.5.gif

I use D-Nice's older D65 and D55 for pure and movie-

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1053444/the-official-pioneer-9g-kuro-settings-issues-thread/270#post_14432038

They look amazing on my display. The warmth of movie mode is really something to look at. It work for most movies. Not all. Pure mode is more natural and works for pretty much anything. It has a soothing look to it. There's also a D75 for sports. I tried it buy didn't really like it. I don't use that mode anyway.
post #10583 of 10755
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Originally Posted by Dust Bubble View Post

Is there something on the outside of the glass like a dark layer of film for anti reflection purposes? I expected minor issues with the panel since it’s used and when watching shows it’s not noticeable but I am just curious as to what type of damage this is and if it can be fixed?

Could be that the AR filter has a small scratch on it. I believe there is a layer bonded to the outside of the glass to prevent reflections. You could try very lightly buffing it with a microfibre cloth to see if it helps. If that doesn't help, use the same cloth with a bit of distilled water (a few drops) and lightly buff the area, then buff it again with a dry cloth. Do not use anything on the glass but distilled water.

There is a lot of info in all the 9g threads about the AR filter and what users can do to clean it and maintain it.
post #10584 of 10755
Anybody else have any ideas on whats causing my problem?
post #10585 of 10755
Saprano...have you tried using the tools button to change viewing modes?
post #10586 of 10755
Quote:
Originally Posted by t-town oil View Post

Saprano...have you tried using the tools button to change viewing modes?

Yeah. When i exit the picture menu the only to get the picture back to normal is using tools then changing the picture mode.
post #10587 of 10755
have you used ControlCal on this set? If yes, did you save your settings, and use the end calibration? I had mine time out once and the set was doing strange things until I went back in and exited with the end calibration.
post #10588 of 10755
I was looking over at AVforums in the 500A thread and i found this-

http://www.avforums.com/forums/18526471-post130.html

Wow! Look at how much better the picture looks over standard pure. You can see the stripes on his jacket. I really need to unlock the ISF modes and get my TV calibrated.
post #10589 of 10755
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Originally Posted by saprano View Post

I was looking over at AVforums in the 500A thread and i found this-

http://www.avforums.com/forums/18526471-post130.html

Wow! Look at how much better the picture looks over standard pure. You can see the stripes on his jacket. I really need to unlock the ISF modes and get my TV calibrated.

Yes you do sir!! Hurry! biggrin.gif
post #10590 of 10755
Quote:
Originally Posted by saprano View Post

I was looking over at AVforums in the 500A thread and i found this-

http://www.avforums.com/forums/18526471-post130.html

Wow! Look at how much better the picture looks over standard pure. You can see the stripes on his jacket. I really need to unlock the ISF modes and get my TV calibrated.
Kevin Miller, UMR (Jeff Meier), and D-Nice to name a few. smile.gif
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