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post #10651 of 10755
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Originally Posted by rcapprotti View Post

i had the same problem that a few of you on this particular thread have had with the purple dots showing up when you go from a black seen to white.i was lucky i got pioneer to warranty the tv out it was a little bit of a fight with them the tv was about 20 months out of warranty.but what saved me was i kept all my paper work from the 3 times they work on the tv while it was still under its one-year warranty.i have had the new kuro for about 3 weeks and i love this tv.and i can tell you from experience that changing the power war will not take care of the problem you're at I also change the y board and the z board those replacement parts did not fix my TV

What finally resolved the issue?
post #10652 of 10755
i was told the plasma panel was bad but after reading that there is an adjustment on the power board maybe my plasma panel was not bad after all. Like I said I was just lucky that pioneer was able to warranty TV
post #10653 of 10755
Thank you - You would think Pioneer would know about the power supply fix - this seems not to be a lone incident - are they assuming all Elite monitors with sparkling issues have bad non-serviceable plasma panels and are replacing all under warranty? - either Pioneer is not up to speed or power supply fix hasn’t worked for them - mystery continues.
post #10654 of 10755
they are not going to fix the panel if its under warranty you would just get a new tv. and nobody would buy the panel because they are $4200 plus the labor to install it.you know you can go to pioneer web site and it says the panel are no longer available but that's not true the the person that was on the phone with me from the warranty department said that the panels are under a different part number so make sure wonder how many panels they have sitting around.and i would be willing to bet that they have the audio boards to turn the non-elites into a E-lite
post #10655 of 10755
you know i complain about the loud buzzing from day one to Pioneer and they said that was normal but once again they were
Wrong about that because the new power supply board did fix the loud buzzing sound. maybe a faulty power supply board from the factory is what set off these purple dots prematurely on the TV who knows because you can't get a straight answer from anybody at Pioneer order service techs
post #10656 of 10755
sorry ment to say Or their service technicians
post #10657 of 10755
What is it then in your opinion ?
post #10658 of 10755
Like I said before you couldn't get a straight answer from Pioneer or the tech that came out looked at it but you guys may be onto something by adjusting that screw on the power assembly board your guess is is good as mine because I couldn't get an answer to it they just replaced a TV but I was lucky they did that
post #10659 of 10755
Hey all,

I the recent 2013 HDTV shootout in Scarsdale Dnice alluded to variations in Kuro panel quality depending on date and location of manufacture. Does anyone have reliable information on this topic ? Kuros come up for sale occasionally on ebay and it would help in the decision to buy a certain model over another. I know the 101fd and 500m's are the best but which build dates are the best ???

Thanks !
post #10660 of 10755
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Originally Posted by gunhed View Post

Hey all,

I the recent 2013 HDTV shootout in Scarsdale Dnice alluded to variations in Kuro panel quality depending on date and location of manufacture. Does anyone have reliable information on this topic ? Kuros come up for sale occasionally on ebay and it would help in the decision to buy a certain model over another. I know the 101fd and 500m's are the best but which build dates are the best ???

Thanks !

I've always heard that the April 2009 builds could be iffy since that's when Pioneer was readying their exit strategy from the plasma market. FWIW, my original 101FD was an April build and it emitted a rather noticeable high-pitched whine. It was replaced by a February build (the one I still currently own) and it had no such issues. (besides the usual high-pitched noise that I hear with many electronics that's inaudible to most)
post #10661 of 10755
My 3.5 year 151FD is a February 2009 Build as well.

It works great!
post #10662 of 10755
I’m still sitting on the fence in calling service tech - was hoping the power supply fix described here might be worth a shot - unfortunately I haven’t read any convincing evidence that it actually might work on my 141 FD - GobbityGotz have you tried this fix?
post #10663 of 10755
vinyl i think you might have a better chance with the power board adjustment then replacing parts. because I can tell you from first-hand experience after changing 4 different boards in my kuro that none of these things repaired my tv.i replaced the bower board the y board the z board and i believe the main assembly board i have to look at my paperwork for that one. I personally would do the power board adjustment a try what do you have to lose the little bit of time if it doesn't work in the only thing I can think of is the plasma panel itself. the problem is one of you guys are have to take a shot and try at least you can cross off that off the list of possibilities I hope you try it works because if it is the panel and of course we all know that the cost will outweigh worth of the TV good luck I hope that you guys get your kuro fixed
post #10664 of 10755
Thanks rcapprotti - first opportunity I have someone to give me a hand I’ll attempt it.
post #10665 of 10755
No problem I hope everything works out and you get your kuro up and running like it should
post #10666 of 10755
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Originally Posted by vinyl View Post

I’m still sitting on the fence in calling service tech - was hoping the power supply fix described here might be worth a shot - unfortunately I haven’t read any convincing evidence that it actually might work on my 141 FD - GobbityGotz have you tried this fix?

Yes Vinyl, I have replaced the power board with a brand new unit from Pioneer. It reduced the problem but did not fix it. I still have the purple/magenta pixels when switching from dark to light scenes. It is noticeable reduced in amount and it is much more intermittent but it did not solve the issue completely. Problem is with me, getting it down from the wall again. It was a chore and I would need a stronger helper next time. smile.gif

Seeing that the swap reduced the issue tells me that the panel is fine. If it was the panel the issue would have repmained exactly the same after the swap and it didn't. I have a feeling the power board adjustment just may work. I can't see it hurting. If it doesnt work just return the setting to previous.
I will report my findings when I complete it. It may take a while though
post #10667 of 10755
@ GobbityGotz - Thank you for update - like yours mine is on the wall also - I take it that you didn’t attempt to adjust the original power board but rather you just swapped it with the new board without making any adjustments to new one.
post #10668 of 10755
gobbitygotz you are lucky that it changed the picture at all when i install the new power board on mine it did nothing but stop that loud annoying buzzing sound. and I know what you mean about getting somebody strong enough to help you take the TV down off the wall because if not it could end up on the floor. good luck with your repair
post #10669 of 10755
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Originally Posted by locdog33 View Post

Right where you see those 4 battery like capacitors. Under the first one. It has a drop of grey glue on it. Take that of and twist clownish wise with a Phillips screw driver.

Anyone tried this solution?
I think I will give it a chance.
These sparkling magenta pixels have become a nightmare.
Even if something goes wrong I feel like I have nothing to loose.
post #10670 of 10755
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Originally Posted by vinyl View Post

@ GobbityGotz - Thank you for update - like yours mine is on the wall also - I take it that you didn’t attempt to adjust the original power board but rather you just swapped it with the new board without making any adjustments to new one.

I just swapped the board and made no adjustments to either one.
post #10671 of 10755
Has anyone else noticed the same?
When my PDP-LX6090H is cold at around first 10 minutes of operation the sparkling magenta pixels phenomenon is greatly reduced, perhaps not even noticeable
Perhaps when PSU is cold works better?
post #10672 of 10755
If people are replacing the PSU and it's not fixing (or completely) fixing the issue - it may be voltage adjustments related - or it could be another power board. YSUSTAIN for example
post #10673 of 10755
Stu03 I replaced the y and z sustain after I changed the PSU and they did nothing to Remedy the problem at the time I was not Aware of the Adjustment to the power board at the time but I wish I did
post #10674 of 10755
I finally went for the reset and voltage tweak solution via factory settings.
I have a PDP LX6090H with 9850 hours on the counter, which now shows just 4.
At the moment my picture is FLAWLESS! never saw such a performance from my KURO.
As for the black, in a dark room the only think that helps you to understand that the tv is on is the blue light!

When applied the reset I got intense magenta sparkling all over.
Unfortunately I have been stupid enough NOT to make notes of the prior voltages.
The magenta sparkles persisted until I rose the VOL RSTP to very unusual level of 145. I hope this will not cause any damage.
My current voltages are as:

VOL SUS=128
VOL OFFSET=110
VOL RST P=145
VOL XPOFS1=105
VOL XPOFS2=63
VOL YKNOFS1 D=104
VOL YKNOFS3 D=156
VOL YKNOFS4 D=183
VOL YKNOFSA D=138

I am worried despite the REALLY GOOD picture about the RSTP value.
None of the configurations that I've seen here gave more than 70.
Should I wait for my KURO to explode or something?

Temperatures indicate 49c and 57c which would not be too high when operating during the Greek summer.
Any thoughts?
Edited by stamatisk - 6/1/13 at 1:59pm
post #10675 of 10755
Did you get any noise in the black and shadows when you reset?
post #10676 of 10755
Hey everyone,

Recently my Pioneer Pro 151FD Kuro has been exhibiting some issues. Sometimes during the middle of watching a movie over apple tv, or even blu-ray on my playstation 3, the picture on the television just goes black and shows input on the upper corner. It looks like it tries to re-establish a handshake but it's just not happening. One time, the picture just went totally nuts and was displaying it in weird artifacts. I have had the television hooked up in three separate ways. Once through a sony ct260 sound bar. Then, through a pioneer receiver (new one). And once directly to the tv. It seems as if when I was shooting a picture directly through the tv, i let it run for 5 hours on blu ray and it never exhibited any problems. Could the issue be my mono-price 15 foot hdmi cable that I used to connect from the receiver directly to the tv ? I can't seem to narrow the issue down, but i'm starting to think the cable is the culprit. Any ideas?
post #10677 of 10755
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Originally Posted by mistermad View Post

Hey everyone,

Recently my Pioneer Pro 151FD Kuro has been exhibiting some issues. Sometimes during the middle of watching a movie over apple tv, or even blu-ray on my playstation 3, the picture on the television just goes black and shows input on the upper corner. It looks like it tries to re-establish a handshake but it's just not happening. One time, the picture just went totally nuts and was displaying it in weird artifacts. I have had the television hooked up in three separate ways. Once through a sony ct260 sound bar. Then, through a pioneer receiver (new one). And once directly to the tv. It seems as if when I was shooting a picture directly through the tv, i let it run for 5 hours on blu ray and it never exhibited any problems. Could the issue be my mono-price 15 foot hdmi cable that I used to connect from the receiver directly to the tv ? I can't seem to narrow the issue down, but i'm starting to think the cable is the culprit. Any ideas?
You could try a Monoprice Redmere high speed cable. That should cover any bandwidth problems, and any tension related connector problems.
post #10678 of 10755
Got Lucky at local Bestbuy last night and found a Kuro PDP5020FD on display for $1700. After asking the guy if they would accept between 500 and 600 for it. I walked out the door with it for 600. My question is how do I know how many hours are on the TV. Thanks
post #10679 of 10755
OMG what a bargain eek.gif Congrats smile.gif

Hey am I reading that correctly is that $600 from $1700 ???

eek.gif
post #10680 of 10755
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Originally Posted by Drkseid View Post

Got Lucky at local Bestbuy last night and found a Kuro PDP5020FD on display for $1700. After asking the guy if they would accept between 500 and 600 for it. I walked out the door with it for 600. My question is how do I know how many hours are on the TV. Thanks
AFAIK you'd either need a service remote (if that's what it's called) or something like ControlCal which I personally use with my 5020FD to access the service menu and check the hours.
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