The Official Pioneer 9G Kuro Settings/Issues Thread - Page 81

Has any of you guys used the Geek Squad for a calibration
and were the results good? I just talked to them and all
their calibrators are ISF certified.

And its $250

Or does anybody know of a good ISF guy near Bellingham WA ?
thanks

Quick question here as I'm trying to decide between a 101 and 111 (and get it delievered and broken in before Christmas). It's not clear to me that the ISF settings are available on the 101. I've been through the manuals (no mention of them at all in there for either the 101 or the 111) so all I've got to go on is what is posted in teh spec page on the Pio web site:

111:
101:
Further up teh spec page talking about teh 101 however is this:


Can anyone enlighten me? MTIA.

gotta go prof cal to get proper greyscale. you could always try the settings, if you dont like them, go back to the defaults.

all of the 60 inch sets have a plus green greyscale....the are offsets posted on the first page of this thread for the sixty inchers they are different than the 50 inch.....

I would not go with them for calibration I sent you a link via PM and also look around here for people that do tours, you have some time since it needs to break in.

I'd second what Roman said. Go with a certified ISF tech in your area.

You talking about a Panasonic here? not sure what you mean, but some clarification would help. There is a list of settings for breakin, post breakin, and control cal for the 60" pro151fd.

think he may be referring to the 6020FDs

the 6020's and the elite 60"ers. d-nice has confirmed this. if you read through the post it is stated(i know there alot of posts).

the offsets "may not" help the 60" panels

He has offsets for both the 60s and the 50s, right?? I'm pretty sure he does.

here is the the post from d-nice

Originally Posted by D-Nice
Good afternoon,

After speaking to my contact at Pioneer and things I have found in the field, the probability of you having a 151FD with a plus green grayscale is much higher than owning one without. Plus green 151s, actually all 60" 9G Kuros, are produced at a different production facility There is currently no way to distinguish between these PDP modules (yes they do span ALL serial numbers).

and recommend that you pursue professional calibration to ensure you are getting 100% out of your panel.

As always, enjoy.

Maybe D-Nice can stop by to clarify this for us.

calling DR. D-nice

I recommend you pick a Professional from this LIST.

I think David Evans and Michael Chen cover your area. David Abrams has been up on Tour as well.

Correct it only appears when I try dot x dot with my cable, nowhere else?

I don't get it. I understand why you are using a +49 blue offset because of the plus green in the 6020. However if you have a "plus green" with a 151 like there is in a 141, how can you over come that difference (plus green) with the settings you have for the 151 ISF night you posted ? I am sure your settings are the best but I just can not get anywhere close to the 151 ISF night settings, with my 141.

Peter.

the issue is with the broadcast, not with the display. so yes, no where else.

any idea who one can call and complain too?

What I am trying to say is. I can not get close to your ISF night settings calibrating my 141. The problem is I must go much higher with Blue high to even out my RGB gray scale. I end up with good results but can not figure out how you do it. Unless the 141 ISF RGB gray scale level is much different from the 151/111.
RGB tracking, balance, gamma point brake out.
See my latest ISF settings report, your template

 

SillySallyGandC.pdf 167.7978515625k . file

It won't do any good. It's simply data in the signal, and since most TVs have a little overscan that crops those edges, it's usually not a problem. They'll just tell you to use a difference screen size setting.

Just curious if anyone else has noticed this on their 6020. Any video source I play I have noticed that the image is not being filled as far over to the right side of the screen almost making it a few millimeters off center to the left. When I change the screen size to auto/full it fills up the screen (depending on the source material) evenly on both sides. This only happens in dot by dot mode.

Poorly shot images attached.

Source:
PS3 1080P, with any BR Discs
Oppo 981HD 1080P any DVD

Picture:
AV Selection: Movie
Contrast: 38
Brightness: -1
Color: -4
Tint: R1
Sharpness: -15

Pure Cinema
Film Mode: Advance
Text Optimization: Off
Power Save Mode: Off
Orbiter: Mode 2


Thank You for your help,

Are you going directly to the TV, or through a processor/receiver? I ask because I think there were some Denons that had a little issue with that, but it was fixed with a firmware update. If you're getting it when your source goes direct to the TV, try turning off the orbiter and see if it helps.

its your orbiter doing its job

Hello, I have the 141 and they do have ISF day/night mode settings. Since they are activated by the calibrator and are not available "out of the box", they are not shown as prominently in the manuals as the other modes, but the manual of the 101/141 does refer to them in the pages that describe the Web control interface (p.66), they are listed in the available AV selections.

Dan.

They both have different grayscales. That's why he says not to use the 151 or 111 settings for the 141 or 101.

This unit is two weeks old and completed 150 hour burn-in

I am very disappointed with the color space calibration. Primarily the Green is oversaturated; and yes the 141 is set to Color Space 2 !!

I have included two files, one with RGB input from a computer, the other is HDMI input utilizing the AVS rec709 disc with a Panasonic BD30.
The data was taken with the 141 in Pure mode, and you will note the RGB gain settings to obtain RGB balance for Gamma.

The Chroma-5 meter is new and I confirmed (approximately) with my older LT meter.

Any suggestions or ideas? …………..Have the unit replaced (this is the second unit, the first one had a totally cracked display), or can I trust that Pioneer will repair this correctly?

I’m also going to post this on the 141 forum.

 

PRO141FD_RGB.pdf 122.419921875k . file

 

PRO141FD_HDMI.pdf 121.11328125k . file

The RGB Highs/Lows Control ranges are different (expanded) on the 141/101/KRP-M's.