The Official Pioneer 9G Kuro Settings/Issues Thread - Page 250

Nope, and I'm not worried about it.


Let's say a D-Nice calibration hour is equal to 100 of your calibration hours*. He might spend four hours getting his results.

I think the rest of your questions are better dealt with in the calibration threads or the calibration site. Not to say there aren't some very capable people reading this thread but it really is the wrong place.

*100 is random, it could be 500 or a 1,000. I've invested over 50 hours in my panel and there's more to do. I've probably got a couple hundred hours across the various things I've worked at calibrating over the years.

Marky, I don't want to seem like I'm piling on, but to add to what Bodosom said I also have invested about the same amount of time into my 111FD and CalMan / Chroma5 combo. I've asked questions and I've been helped here on AVS (you can do a search to see that). I'm no expert by a long shot but was able to get to this

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...480&highlight=

It is possible.

Thanks bodosom. Understood. I'll drop the issue here.

Sorry to be such a pest.

--Mark--

Thanks tonypony,

That is very helpful.

--Mark--

No problem. If you read through some of the posts I made during this time you'll see that being new to cal and seeming like a pest tend to go hand in hand!

I've just hooked up my 151 that was bought in March. The basement construction had some delays that were unexpected, so the the Plasma was in a box for 5 months. I downloaded the slideshow and am running it 24/7 for the next few days on the Sports settings that were recommended, and I have a pro calibrator coming in november after the panel gets some hours on it.

My questions are: after the break-in slides run, should i just use d-nice's settings and wait for the ISF calibrator to come, or should I be using something else in that time duration instead?

Are there any known settings that I should be making in my Denon 5910ci or Denon 3800bdci that will make the video sharper in the meantime, or just wait for the calibrator to take care of that?

Thanks,
Rich

I have and, for whatever reason, you're right. But it shouldn't.

I really don't understand why certain people get so bent out of shape because we're trying to learn.

Isn't that kind of the point of the AV Science forum?

Thank You Very Much Again tonypony! I am learning much from your posts.

--Mark--

Just as no layperson who strolls into my law offices should expect me to provide free advice on how to draft a civil complaint that complies with all court requirements and protects all of their rights, neither should calibrators be expected to provide gratis expert training in their profession. Just be grateful for the help you are receiving, and if you want to learn more, obtain the appropriate education.

Not trying to be harsh here, but you can't expect to obtain highly technical training in a professional field for free.

I started running the break-in disc yesterday. It says to run it 150 hours non-stop. Just to clarify,is it better to run it literally 150 hours non-stop without turning the plasma display or DVD player off for nearly a full week or is it better to shut it down every so often ??

I ask because the back of the plasma panel seems to be hot. I'm just not sure if it was only meant that you should not run any other material during the 150 hours ( which I know is not recommended ) or if you should not turn off the display or break-in material for 150 consecutive hours. Will it matter either way ( continuously or with periodic breaks ) if the first 150 hours of the panel's lifespan is spent running the break-in slides ??

It doesn't matter if it's continuous or broken into sessions.

DIrect Tv is sending me a new DVR. Its an hr23-700. Replacing an HR20.

Anyone have one of these. If so, how do they look in terms of PQ? Any differences in the old vs. the new?

I just got one, They look equally good, only difference i notice is that the new one does not need the signal booster or whatever that coax adaptor is on the hr21. The best part is that the new hr23 runs at a MUCH cooler temperature too if you have airflow or heat issues

Not in terms of picture with respect to the 21 and the 22. The limiting factor here is the source not the device. My 23 is more responsive. Having an internal BBC is good unless it fails.

D-Nice:

I just got my 151 last week, and have used it for roughly 25 hours watching only HD channels--I just couldn't help myself lol. Only until today did I start the break in using the thumbdrive files.

I noticed that there are very slight splotches, cloud-like almost, on the screen (as in the screen is not perfectly even when displaying the pics and more noticeable on the gray colors), and also that the rgb and grayscale pics don't vary as much in color as they did when I previewed them on my computer screen. I double checked the settings and everything is set the way it should be.

I may be being picky, but are these things normal? Sorry if this question is newb-- I've never owned a plasma

Hi all:

Can anyone please help me by pointing to a link that shows PURE mode and other settings for my plasma whose manufacturing date is January 2009? Is my unit the same as the "2008 plus green" models whose settings (by DNice) are listed provided at the beginning of this thread?

Thanks,
David

I just had a service call on my DTV. The service technician told me there isn't much difference in the performance from the 21 to the 23. The main change was that the external filters hanging off the RG6 cables on the back of the receiver are now inside the receiver of the 23.

I thought it had a bigger hard drive too? So no difference in PQ but no need for a broad band converter. That will help instead of trying to squeeze those BBc"s into the back of my Ent. Center.

As far as better response. I'm all for that . This Hr20 has been lagging for quite some time and actually has froze up on occasion.

Doesn't DirectTV have a new line of Tivo's coming out? Or is tivo linked with cable only?

Also . Anyone notice on your elite..the amazing PQ coming out of the NFL ticket superfan....I mean....amazing PQ.

I watched in awe sunday with my choice of games...the Jets/Pats game was the best picture i ever saw a football game on tv. ..( i havea 101)

Every game looked flawless....these blacks are flat out S I C K

Hi all.

I could not find the answer with search so I dare to ask. Is it my monitor or Slide08-1080p and Slide09-1080p are the same? I am getting my TV tomorrow, so I only know what they look like on my pc.
Can someone please let me know what RGB numbers are for those? That way I can probably make one myself.

Thank you for your help.

I agree about those two slides. It's well known and even the gurus say just run it. D-nice used them I believe and his settings refer to those slides for break-in. Soooo,just run it if you want to duplicate his results.

Scotty

p.s. After slides start double check picture mode is "Sport" with the REMOTE.

Thanks Scotty.
I am still curious to know RGB percentages for those two slides. Settings could be changed – break-in is a “once in a life time” (of the panel) deal .

I just checked the RGB values of slides 8 & 9 and they are in fact the same. Red = 200. Slide 7, Red = 225. Slide 10, Red = 150. So slide 9 should be Red = 175.

PS - there are no G or B values for any of them. They are pure shades of red.

If you want it, here is a replacement slide #9 with a Red value of 175:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5inimzzjnza

It's really not that critical. Yes, break-in is a once in a (panel) lifetime deal, in that it's new only once. But no matter what content you play, and no matter what settings you use, the panel will "break in" during its early hours of use. You might be overthinking this a bit.

Thank you Tim.

progprog, I am not overthinking this a bit - I am overthinking this a whole lot . If I asked all of the questions I have I would be banned from the forum instantly.

Cheers,
Alec

DNice...can you please help?

I'm sorry guys that I got a little frustrated the other day. I understand this is valuable professional knowledge.

I guess my concern was more about if my 500M might be defective in some way because of the difficulty I (and my professional calibrator) have had thus far in getting the RGB tracking flat at 10% and getting a ruler-flat Gamma.

But it seems that there really aren't that many unique issues with the Kuros other than to keep the CMS controls within 2 clicks of 0 and to keep the RGB 9-Point Gamma controls the same for a given level point.

The rest is on me to follow the workflow precisely, keeping accurate notes and repeating the steps until things fall in.

I originally thought this would be a lot easier!

I do appreciate everyone's help and without you especially D-Nice, I probably wouldn't have bought a Kuro in the first place.

And I wouldn't trade it for anything else in the world at this point.

Thanks Again,

--Mark--

Dnice, Can you please answer this question: I am using a Denon 3800 bdci player and Anthem d2v, when i try to output YCbCr to the Anthem the colors look all reversed, but RGB output works fine. Does the 151fd only accept RGB signals?

Thanks,
Rich