*Official* Denon AVR 2309CI/889 Thread - Page 47

I'm planning to put my soon-to-arrive 2309 in a cabinet that would block the IR remote line of sight. I'm wondering about an IR extension receiver that would plug into the rear of the 2309 to allow me to have remote control -- without going the RF route. I've searched the Denon forums, Denon.com and the web, but haven't found a solution. Please offer some needed guidance.

Thanks.

This was submitted by a poster in the 1909 thread ...

Maybe someone can help. I just hooked up my 2309 and I used component cables from the cable box to the avr and from the avr to the monitor. I also used component from the dvd to the avr. I don't have the hdmi's yet. I went through the setup and assigned the cbl to rca3 and all others off. I assigned the dvd to rca1 and all others off. I have audio from the tuner and cd. I have video from the cable but no audio. Please tell me it is something simple. I have been re-reading this thread but can't find anything.

Tom

it is simple i think...component only handles video...and you could go component video direct to the TV if you wanted. But there is no audio being caried thru the component cable...you need to either go out of the cable box with a digital coax cable or an optical cable....

what cable box and what TV?

The cable box is Scientific Atlanta, TV is Jvc 1080p. I just assumed that the component cables were 2ch audio and one video. If I have already assigned the input to RCA3 for TV/CBL how would the receiver identify the other input.

Thanks, Tom

Just got back home and connected audio out on the cable box to the tv/cbl audio in in the avr and it works. I'll run like this till the final install.

Thanks Tim

Tom

i'm guessing maybe you connected it using composite cables instead of component? Composite is 2 cables red/white and yellow....and connects like you said 2 audio and 1 video. But for at least the past 5 years it is the WORST wat possible to connect your cable box to your avr and TV..just as bad as running the cable out of the cable box into the TV...

Component on the other hand is asl o 3 cables...but its red/green and blue and is carrying a much better video signal...but it does not come out of the cable box from the red/white/yellow outputs.. it is video only and as you found out requires a seperate audio cable which will also not come from the red or white outputs....but look for one that is ussually black and says "digital out" or "audio out" and will only have one output that looks like an RCA out...and it requires a digital coax cable. ( or refered to as s/pdif )

I was turning the AVR off via the remote, and was pressing the HDP input button to turn it on again (my laptop input). Whenever I'd do so, it'd turn on in the correct input, then resort back to my Xbox input (Component 3)! Was driving my crazy!

Anyways I turned HDMI Control to off, and the problem's gone away. Thanks jdsmoothie!

Thanks, that would work. I was hoping to avoid RF. But love it at that price.

I sure wish Denon made a remote IR receiver that plugs into the back of the 2309.

Another dumb question none of the buttons on the big remote work. Everytime I put volume up or down it says zone 2 and it goes up or down only the on off button seems to work I already rebooted the receiver & changed the remotes batteries but to no avail. Thanks in advance

[quote=tundrSQ;15650549]i'm guessing maybe you connected it using c
omposite cables instead of component?

I used R,G,B cables but I thought they carried audio too. Now that I connected the audio (Red/White) to the AVR everything is working. I will be connecting everything with HDMI when I do the final install. Right now I am trying to get a good handle on where to locate the speakers before I start putting holes in the house! You have been a valuable resource so keep your ears on, as I will surely be in need of more assistance.

Thanks again

Tom

Now onto the RF remote threads so I can make this a spousally acceptable install!!!

since when you try to change the volume it says "zone 2", did you not consider that your remote was in "zone 2" mode? try those stupid switches on the bottom of your remote. I bet the right one is flicked over to "zone 2".

Hi,

I've played with Auddyssey many, many times now to try and tweak the best out of it. I'm getting there, but one thing always occurs to me:

Why does Auddyssey always set all my 5.1 levels to -x rather than set something at 0 and arrange the rest around it?

eg I have

L -5 C -3 R -4.5 SL-4 SR -4 SW -8

rather than

L -2 C 0 R -1.5 SL -1 SR -1 SW -5

Are the two the same or is there more to it than that?

Cheers

-Mat

Ratshack has a nice little inexpensive and reliable unit about the same price-mine works well 2 floors/60'.

The '09 Audyssey sets the trim level such that reference "0" on the Denon Volume knob=75 dB SPL in the room from each speaker at measure position #1. Per Audyssey Setup Guide it is important that no actual trim #it exceed +/- 11 dB (since 12dB is the max correction Audyssey can apply and if it reads 12 it might need even more correction). Chris/Audyssey has clarified that there is no point in trying to get your values to read any closer to 0, even for the sub. Your results look fine. Got good SQ?
Whispered: "Do not seek the treasure!"

All is generally fine except that occasionally the bass is a bit overblown with some discs. I can't turn it down that much before it drops below -12 and switches off. That's why I wondered if I could boost all levels up by +3. Wouldn't that give me more to play with when reducing bass for those troublesome discs?

Cheers

-Mat

Why not just turn the gain knob down on the sub and recalibrate? That should give you more headroom to play with.

Doh!

What an obvious solution

Why didn't I think of that...

Thanks very much

-Mat

Hey Fellas,

I searched the thread already but didn't find this question exactly:

I'm currently using all Monoprice HDMI cables for my system to include my HD cable box. The cable HD channels are in 1080i and all the standard channels are displayed in their much lower resolution. My sony TV can show the resolution it is displaying and the only time I have seen 1080p is from Blu-Ray or upconverted DVD through the Blu-Ray player. I read earlier about the handshake convenience of HDMI, but....

Does anyone have any thoughts/experience on downgrading to a component video cable from my cable box and let the AVR-2309 upconvert the picture to 1080p or is staying with HDMI the way to go?

Thanks,
Mike

The only real way to see which de-interlaces better (tv or receiver) is to try it out. I personally let my panel take care of that.

You're not necessarily "downgrading" by going to component as it depends on both the source and the display as to which cable type (component or HDMI) will provide the better picture. As webcrawlr suggested, your best bet is to try the different combination of connections to determine which you personally feel is best in your environment. In most cases however, both the HD box and the HDTV will provide as good as or better a picture than if upscaled by the Denon.

I'd say it's a pretty safe bet to say the Denon will do as good or better at deinterlacing then a cable box will due to the use of the Faroudja chip. Where I'd question it is the scaling. After much monkeying around I've settled on leaving the satellite box outputting in native format and letting the panel do any scaling/deinterlacing. To my eyes it looked better.

Finally got my AVR-889 all set up with 7.1
All HDMI - through the 889
Blu-ray works from dvd, TV works (cable box HDMI to 889).

Tried the tuner - no sound on FM or AM. I must be missing something dumb and obvious after a long night of setup. Any ideas?

thnx

Do you have both antenna's hooked up (AM and FM)? Have you tuned any stations yet?

Duhhhhh - I knew it was something obvious
Haven't hooked up antennas. Just thought I'd pick something up w/o an antenna.


thnx

I have a couple questions for people who are knowledgable about the 2309CI.

1.) How does the video processing compare to the V863? I'd probably just disable the scaler, but it'd be nice to know how well it works.

2.) How powerful is this 100w amp? Will it power larger speakers OK? I know 100w is not always equal between different brands and such. I have a set of speakers that I'm a little worried about possibly being underpowered with the 2309CI. It's a set of Gershman Accoustics X1/SW-1. It has a 10" sub driver and a 6" mid driver up top. I'm currently running them with an older Integra DTR-7.2 (105w), and it runs them just great. But I've never owned a Denon, and I don't know if their 100w is fairly equivelent to Integra's 105w. I want to buy this receiver pretty soon, so any help would be very appreciated!

I have connected an old DVD player to the Denon DVD input terminals using Y, W, Y composite cable. The output of the Denon is run to the TV with HDMI. The Denon plays the DVD audio but I can't get the video on the TV. Everything else seems to work OK.

I'm not concerned about the quality of composite as I will soon be replacing the DVD player, just curious why its not working

Anyone have any ideas on what I might have done wrong?

Thanks,

pretty much all mid-level receivers have decent-but-not-great scaling. check out my FAQ for more info, and you can read the 1909 review at Cnet where they specifically test it out.


current Denons meet their specs, the 2309/889 probably will outpower the older Integra. The 2809/989 bench-tested at like 112 W/ch with all channels driven.

Just to be clear - you are using COMPOSITE (red/white for audio, yellow for video) right? And you plugged the red/white/yellow cable into the input labeled "DVD" on the back of the Denon?

Does it work if you connect video straight to the TV?

If so, as a troubleshoot, connect another composite (yellow RCA) video cable from the MONITOR OUT on the back of the Denon to a video input on the TV. see if it can at least pass through the composite video, so we can narrow down the problem to something with the analog > HDMI conversion.

Thanks for the reassurance Batpig. I think I can pick one up for about $600 (shipped) from online. I'll try to do that with some of my tax-refund monies.