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post #2341 of 3144
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

all of these "experiments" in couch position and blanket-muffling are just the tinkering of obsessed A/V geeks

Have I really moved up into the elusive Denon Circle of Obsessed A/V Geeks?!?
post #2342 of 3144
I have been waiting on buying a receiver and this one went down to 631 on Amazon. You guys think this is a good price for this? Also how does this compare with the new Pioneer VSX-1019? That is listed at 440 on pre-order.
post #2343 of 3144
Just bought this receiver. Does anyone know the remote code to operate a directv receiver?
post #2344 of 3144
DirecTV uses several different vendors for their boxes. Try to identify the make of the box and then find the appropriate code in the back of your manual, otherwise, do a Search This Thread in both this thread and the 1909 thread for "Directv remote code" (or something similar) as this question has come up several times before.
post #2345 of 3144
I was trying to figure out how I can listen to my CDs, LPs, and cassettes in Stereo. I want to use the main fronts, the surrounds (as a second stereo pair) and nothing else. I can't find a playback mode that will do that. The closest I found was 5.1 stereo, but I want the center and sub off.

Any help is appreciated.
post #2346 of 3144
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Originally Posted by Beatles4ever View Post

...I want to use the main fronts, the surrounds (as a second stereo pair) and nothing else. I can't find a playback mode that will do that. The closest I found was 5.1 stereo, but I want the center and sub off...

Hi, welcome. Ringo, is that you? No? Anyway, try this: Use 5.1 stereo, dial down the CC and sub channels and then save that as a "Quick Select". If you have a Harmony you could also program a special macro.
post #2347 of 3144
another option is to use Dolby PLII Music mode and change the "center width" parameter to the max "7". this will remove all content from the center channel. the sub will still be on, but it's a start.
post #2348 of 3144
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Originally Posted by toondog View Post

Just bought this receiver. Does anyone know the remote code to operate a directv receiver?

Forget about it,. no such thing I tried every code and even went to D*. I finally bought a refurb Harmony remote 880 from Amazon and my 2309CI and D* work great togeather.

I did hook up D* to the Denon by Optical and used the D* HDMI directly to the TV Set. That way my other half can use the set without the Denon and all I have to do is turn off the tv volume and let the Denon take over for surround. When not using D* such as HDDVD etc I let the Denon handle the HDMI in's and outs to the second TV HDMI. The Harmony selects the correct TV input.

If you get a harmony download the profile for a more advanced Denon like the 4309CI as those databases are more complete. Be sure to specify CI

You will be more than satisfied with the Denon 2309 Harmony combonation but the Denon remote suck and so does the manual. The AVR is great though.
post #2349 of 3144
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Originally Posted by andyev View Post

I finally ordered the 2309. I purchased it from J&R and got a much better deal than their website shows. I am hoping I'll get it this week but probably not until next week. Can't wait!

You will love the AVR but hate the remote and manual. Spend your time while waiting by reading Batpig's guide and routing your speaker wire.

I also ordered banana plugs and new cables from Monoprice. If you don't have that stuff you might want to get that on order also while waiting.
Also a tripod should be used for setup. I got one for 5 at the goodwill.
good luck
post #2350 of 3144
I am not getting sound via optical audio except when I put it through the front jack. I can't figure out how to configure the back Cable / VCR optical in to accept the new audio.

I recently got a new Comcast DVR box -- for some reason the HDMI signal out of that makes the 2309 very unhappy, so I have resorted to putting the video signal directly into the TV and use the optical out into the 2309.

Sadly, I can't figure out how to select optical in for TV or VCR. I have tried hitting input mode, etc. but nothing seems to matter. I thought the Comcast box might be at fault (which I thnk it is for the HDMI signal) but decided to route the audio to the front of the unit and viola, it works fine. So what am I doing wrong that is preventing me from getting the audio from the other two inputs.

Also, anyone know what the Comcast DVR box outputs a DVI signal that the 2309 doesn't like? I get drop outs / green screen.

Thanks in advance.
post #2351 of 3144
have you reassigned the optical input you are trying to use to the appropriate input name (e.g. "TV/CBL")?
post #2352 of 3144
I thought that the unit automatically senses which input is being used. I plugged in "TV/CBL" and changed the input on the front of it to TV/Cbl. I moved the cable to VCR then switched over to VCR...

I poked around in the set up menu / manual but didn't see that I needed to do anything for optical, just for digital through coax.
post #2353 of 3144
no, all digital audio inputs, HDMI inputs, and component video inputs are fully assignable. It DOES "sense" what is being used automatically, but you FIRST have to tell it which input is associated with which "name". It has no way of "knowing" you want OPTICAL-2 to come on with the "TV/CBL" input.

Time for you to brew up some fresh cocoa and sit by the fire with my setup guide:
http://batpigworld.com/setup.html
post #2354 of 3144
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Originally Posted by davco9200 View Post

I poked around in the set up menu / manual but didn't see that I needed to do anything for optical, just for digital through coax.

If you haven't seen it already, check out p. 42 of your Owner's Manual under the heading Digital In.
post #2355 of 3144
Thanks! That was a huge help -- your faucet analogy is great!

Denon's input system is WAY too complicated. I am pretty tech savvy guy and if I had a hard time with this, what hope does the average person have?
post #2356 of 3144
As long as you don't mind doing a little reading .. it's all there in black and white ... not really that difficult at all ... fairly straight forward in fact.
post #2357 of 3144
Hi guys

First of all i read the batpigs manual.
Very good but i need some help regarding the sub woofer`s volume.

I run audissey and my sub`s readings are all correct.

Correct distance,crossover and level ( -8 not -12)

With the audissey on is impossible to watch any movie due to the subs volume level.
The door still shakes by the low sounds
I have set the level manually to -12 and the LFE volume to -10 to watch my movies.
Did i messed up audissey settings with this??

Can you propose a better solution than this?

Thank you...
post #2358 of 3144
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Originally Posted by paknik View Post

..With the audissey on is impossible to watch any movie due to the subs volume level....The door still shakes by the low sounds I have set the level manually to -12 and the LFE volume to -10 to watch my movies....

Welcome paknik. The posted info is a good start. It might be helpful to have more info:
Are you using DynEQ?
What sources sound so bassy?
What speakers/sub, size of room, position of sub.
Did you follow the Audyssey setup guide?
post #2359 of 3144
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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

Welcome paknik. The posted info is a good start. It might be helpful to have more info:
Are you using DynEQ?
What sources sound so bassy?
What speakers/sub, size of room, position of sub.
Did you follow the Audyssey setup guide?

Yes i am using DynEQ (audyssey)
HTPC source playing MKV
sub is a 9 inch (canton) 150-170w,room size is about 20-25m2 and the possition of sub is 15-20 cm away from corner.

Yes i followed the setup guide.

Thank you...
post #2360 of 3144
paknik -- a couple of days ago (when adding info on 2010 models) I finally got around to updating my section on "taming the bass" in the Audyssey section of my FADQ:
http://batpigworld.com/fadq.html#audyssey

read it over and work on it.
post #2361 of 3144
Hey folks,

my unit recently developed a symptom of disappearing/underwater center channel.

It is present with any type of HDMI audio input (don't use anything else now), like cable, HD DVD or BD and it's very annoying - basically center channels level randomly drops so low that I only get surround channels, nothing else. If I suddenly turn up the volume a lot it usually recovers, only to get this problem again after a while.

Should I get it repaired by Denon or is it something I can fix here?
post #2362 of 3144
that sounds bizarre. so it sounds normal some of the time, but will randomly drop out? and I'm assuming nothing else has changed recently and things have worked fine until now?

have you attempted a microprocessor reset?
post #2363 of 3144
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Originally Posted by davco9200 View Post

I thought that the unit automatically senses which input is being used. I plugged in "TV/CBL" and changed the input on the front of it to TV/Cbl. I moved the cable to VCR then switched over to VCR...

I poked around in the set up menu / manual but didn't see that I needed to do anything for optical, just for digital through coax.

All u need to do is ASSIGN whichever optical input (1)(2)etc to TV/CBL
post #2364 of 3144
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

that sounds bizarre. so it sounds normal some of the time, but will randomly drop out? and I'm assuming nothing else has changed recently and things have worked fine until now?

Correct.

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have you attempted a microprocessor reset?

Not yet. How do you do that?
post #2365 of 3144
Check your Owner's Manual under Reset the Microprocessor (p. 64 for 2309).
post #2366 of 3144
HI I have a quick question about my subwoofer and my Denon 2309.

When the sub is on standby or Auto, it never gets activated when the receiver is putting out a signal to it. When I turn it on, it gets a signal from the receiver, so there is no problem with the connection. Is there a setting on the Denon I can change to make the sub activate easier?

Thanks in advance!
post #2367 of 3144
what is the channel level setting for your SW?

if it's far to the negative, try lowering the volume of the sub (on the sub itself) and raising the channel level into positive numbers to compensate (the SW out signal will be "hotter")

also, if your sub has dual inputs, splitting the mono SW output with an RCA Y-cable and using both inputs on the sub can help raise the effective sensitivity of the auto-on circuit.
post #2368 of 3144
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

what is the channel level setting for your SW?

if it's far to the negative, try lowering the volume of the sub (on the sub itself) and raising the channel level into positive numbers to compensate (the SW out signal will be "hotter")

also, if your sub has dual inputs, splitting the mono SW output with an RCA Y-cable and using both inputs on the sub can help raise the effective sensitivity of the auto-on circuit.

Thanks batpig for the speedy response!

I use a Y-cable as it is for the sub, it is 5 meters long, that could be a factor maybe? However, it is a quality cable which my dealer gave me free with the purchase of the speakers and I am getting a very solid bass signal from the receiver. The sub just doesn't fit next to the TV anymore with the new tower speakers!

I have the SW at -12db, audyssey had set it at -9.5db. I will try to mess with the volume and the SW level tonight. I tend to tinker with that feature often anyway, while every movie soundtrack seems to volumize channel level so differently (especially center channel). I wish I could check this now but it is 6:20 am here and we live in an apartment oO

I read through your new FAQ section regarding taming bass. Very interesting! Luckily our neighbors are cool and the apartment very well insulated, so we don't have problems with the neighbors, but I still have to keep the beast tame! I shall be busy tinkering with that tonight as well. I guess the Source Level trick works for the 2009 models as well eh? I know this feature exists on my 2309...I will let you know how it works out tonight.

McStyvie
post #2369 of 3144
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I have the SW at -12db, audyssey had set it at -9.5db

this is almost certainly the source of the problem. turn DOWN the volume dial on the subwoofer and re-run Audyssey.
post #2370 of 3144
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

this is almost certainly the source of the problem. turn DOWN the volume dial on the subwoofer and re-run Audyssey.

Yeah that was it. At 9.5 the sub kicks in at the first deep tone. Thanks for the info!
Guess I gotta re-run it hehe!
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