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post #1 of 1811
Thread Starter 
In an email I just received from Pioneer about the new BDP-51FD, it has the following quote concerning the new flagship player that is supposedly announcing at CEDIA this year...

"Prepare yourself for a Blu-ray Disc® player unlike any other you have seen or heard before. Coming soon, the Elite BDP-09FD is sure to raise the bar in high-definition home theater. With its elegant design, impeccable build quality and a few unveiled features, this player is sure to impress the most discerning of entertainment connoisseurs."

Does anyone have any info on this yet?
post #2 of 1811
My guess is it will be a BDP-05FD + awesome video processor + BD-Live, and will probably cost 1500-2000.
post #3 of 1811
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Originally Posted by yhtomitb View Post

In an email I just received from Pioneer about the new BDP-51FD, it has the following quote concerning the new flagship player that is supposedly announcing at CEDIA this year...

"Prepare yourself for a Blu-ray Disc® player unlike any other you have seen or heard before. Coming soon, the Elite BDP-09FD is sure to raise the bar in high-definition home theater. With its elegant design, impeccable build quality and a few unveiled features, this player is sure to impress the most discerning of entertainment connoisseurs."

Does anyone have any info on this yet?

I received the same e-mail. This obviously is the 2.0 flagship that Chris mentioned. Very interested in this player, unless it is ridiculously priced!
post #4 of 1811
Did pioneer post a estimated delivery date for this box....?

I sure hope not.....
post #5 of 1811
Man, I can't believe someone even started this post!
post #6 of 1811
This is going to be a long thread with nothing to say for months...
post #7 of 1811
<<< crickets chirping >>>
post #8 of 1811
Actually, I'm guessing that Pioneer has thrown its technical resources on this machine, starving the 1.1 development in the process, thereby delaying the original anticipated shipping date of the 51FD.
post #9 of 1811
It will have SACD.
post #10 of 1811
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Originally Posted by HTMan34 View Post

I received the same e-mail. This obviously is the 2.0 flagship that Chris mentioned. Very interested in this player, unless it is ridiculously priced!

Then I don't think you will be interested, unless you think $2000 is not ridiculously priced
post #11 of 1811
Thread Starter 
Cedia is Sept. 4-7 this year. I'm sure we should get something concrete by then, but maybe someone has something they can share ahead of time... Chris(Walkamo)? So, I'd say that "months" may be a slight exaggeration before we hear anything.
post #12 of 1811
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Originally Posted by Frank Stein View Post

It will have SACD.

I highly doubt it although for the price it should. I have seen the spec sheet for the BDP-LX91 and it mentions nothing of sacd or dvd audio.
post #13 of 1811
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Originally Posted by Frank Stein View Post

It will have SACD.

Nope.
post #14 of 1811
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Originally Posted by JoeInNVa View Post

Then I don't think you will be interested, unless you think $2000 is not ridiculously priced

Price is not issue if the player provide additional value. If this is too much money tehre is still the option of buying the 51fd.

Now the question is what is the added value that bring the price to 2000$. I hope it is more than being build like a tank.
post #15 of 1811
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Nope.

What about DVD-A?

We need a way to be able to play Hig Rez audio source. If it is not with SACD or DVD-A than we need to at least be able to play High Rez audio from a PC (FLACs 96/24 or 192/24 stereo format etc..) through the Ethernet connection. Currently, I could only get that burning a DVD-A.
post #16 of 1811
There is a post in the 51FD/05FD anticipation thread, citing an unnamed Pioneer source, that speaker distance adjustments will likely be added to the 09FD as a differentiator from the 51FD/05FD units. Better control of bass crossovers is apparently under discussion for all 3 units, but isn't currently in the cards.
--Bob
post #17 of 1811
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

There is a post in the 51FD/05FD anticipation thread, citing an unnamed Pioneer source, that speaker distance adjustments will likely be added to the 09FD as a differentiator from the 51FD/05FD units. Better control of bass crossovers is apparently under discussion for all 3 units, but isn't currently in the cards.
--Bob

I think that most peoples that will shell 2000$ for a BD player will have a decent Pre/pro or receiver in their hand. Therefore, extra base management will add little value to that crowd.
post #18 of 1811
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Originally Posted by Tolstoi View Post

What about DVD-A?

Unofficially, , I was told that neither would be included. Frankly, the cost of building them in factored with the small market interest (except around here) makes it unreasonable and would probably add more to the price than it would be to simply buy a DV-48 or Dv-58 in addition.
post #19 of 1811
As far as the DVD-A/SACD issue goes, I would love to see it included.

Maybe Pioneer sees that in the future the BD 3.0 discs will gain in popularity and make both the old high rez audio formats a mute point.....just a hunch.

I'll take the Pink Floyd catalog in 3.0 please
post #20 of 1811
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Originally Posted by JoeInNVa View Post

Then I don't think you will be interested, unless you think $2000 is not ridiculously priced

If it is priced that high then it will not be worth it for me. I will keep my HD1 until a complete Pioneer comes out that is priced more along the lines of the 05FD.
post #21 of 1811
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Originally Posted by Frank Stein View Post

It will have SACD.

no it won't
post #22 of 1811
All I want is a profile 2.0 player that can decode and bitstream all of the new audio codecs AND has video 'source direct' so that I can have my video processor handle the native video for both Bluray and DVD. It would also be nice if the player could load a disc in less than 5 minutes and not require a firmware upgrade each time I buy a new movie.

Is that too much to ask?
post #23 of 1811
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Originally Posted by yhtomitb View Post

"Prepare yourself for a Blu-ray Disc® player unlike any other you have seen or heard before. Coming soon, the Elite BDP-09FD is sure to raise the bar in high-definition home theater. With its elegant design, impeccable build quality and a few unveiled features, this player is sure to impress the most discerning of entertainment connoisseurs."

this is all about keeping your woody stiff and to distract all of us from the excitement and frustration with the current models (BDP-05FD, BDP-51FD).
post #24 of 1811
I know I am looking forward to this player, Denon's BD version of the 5910, and what Sony is going to do with the ES BD player. I have to have 2.0 just for the convenience of updates and the possibility that "live" will grow into something special.
post #25 of 1811
With pio's emphasis on cd audio quality [pqls] with the 51/05 ;I have a feeling that balanced circuitry may be on the cards as a differentiator . Something like this primare without the dvd audio/sacd ?

http://www.progressive-av.co.uk/dvd_...VI-output_.htm

Comments/thoughts anyone ? If the denon universal can manage it
post #26 of 1811
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Originally Posted by cwt View Post

Comments/thoughts anyone ? If the denon universal can manage it

yeah, I believe Denon is well capable of developing a very high performing universal unit (with balanced output's, etc.,...), however will have to see how well it holds together over time. When I speak of "time" I'm referring to the first 1 to 6 months of ownership, and how it's optical and related mechanisms hold-up, etc.,....Otherwise I don't have any doubt this unit would yield very hi-quality BD and audio playback (2ch and 7.1ch).
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post #28 of 1811
Great find! Looks to be a STUNNING machine.
post #29 of 1811
Hmmm, no leaks in that article as to availability date.

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Is anyone worried that Pioneer (via Chris) is already trying to lower speed expectations for this player?

Anyway, it looks to me like they've addressed a number of the holes in the 51FD/05FD. It will be fun to see how well it actually pulls this off at first shipment.
--Bob
post #30 of 1811
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/0...ref=technology

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August 22, 2008, 3:26 pm
Pioneer Previews Its New Blu-ray Player
By ERIC A. TAUB
One of the reasons that Blu-ray players are still a niche consumer product is what marketers like to call the “value proposition.”

For many, if not most, consumers, standard DVD is good enough, and much, much better than the VHS tape format it replaced. That’s especially true for those who don’t have the video gear to get the most from $300-plus Blu-ray machines: a large, 1080p high-definition plasma display. Frankly, watching a regular DVD on a 1080i HDTV looks very good. And with a $75 upconverting DVD player, it looks even better.

Which is why Pioneer’s new top-of-the-line Blu-ray player is not for that crowd. Informally introduced Thursday at a Pioneer event in Hollywood (much to the chagrin of Pioneer’s PR crew, who were taken aback at its presence and had no information on the unit), the $2,200 Elite BDP-09FD is not going to attract value customers. The unit, which will be available later this year, offers users the option to adjust 16 different picture variables to get the ultimate image, gold-plated connectors, plus a wide range of audio formats and high-bit-rate picture processing.

While it wasn’t actually demonstrated as much as discussed, the Pioneer engineer assured us that it would offer the ultimate in picture quality, as well as BD-Live, the new interactive technology that allows Blu-ray viewers to control a movie remotely, send messages from a laptop and insert them into the film, download updated trailers and play interactive games with others around the world.

If all of that sounds a bit much for your budget, the company is now shipping the DV-410V, a standard definition DVD player that upconverts images to 1080p, or near Blu-ray quality. Its price: a much more down-to-earth $99.

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http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/p...yer-leaks-out/

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Pioneer Elite BDP-09FD Profile 2.0 Blu-ray player leaks out
by Nilay Patel, posted Aug 22nd 2008 at 7:01PM

Pioneer's last batch of Blu-ray players wasn't exactly earth-shattering, but if you're in the market for the highest of the high-end, it sounds like the upcoming Elite BDP-09FD might be worth waiting for. The first Pioneer unit to support Profile 2.0 and BD-Live, you'll also be getting 4GB of internal storage, eight independent D/A converters for each 7.1 channel (which means there are tons of receiver-caliber adjustments possible from the player), and 16-bit color output over two HDMI jacks. Should be out soon, for a whopping $2200.

--Bob
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