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post #30061 of 30708
Rick R

Oh wow I had no idea they matched the transports to the mother boards.....WOW:eek:

Ok then. Im not even going to attempt it. Ill do a simple cleaning and give it a go. I have to go see a client this week who I sold a 51FD to.He hasnt put in the newest firmware so Ill bring my disc to his house and give it a shot. I was going to do that last week but I have to go back and see him. This time Ill be sure to bring my disc. Im pretty sure its my disc but I dont know how or why or if and when it got this stupid little scratch on it but. I bet thats the problem. Im going to get some air. Id rather not pull it out of my rack but if I have to I will although if I pull its problably because I got some money to buy a new 3D player and the 3D kit for my projector.....I saw I never use it or do it but it would be nice to have just for the hell of it.
post #30062 of 30708
JULY 3rd UPDATE

Its not my BD51FD and its NOT FIRMWARE 1.73

I wish to take back any thing BAD I may have said about the BDP51FD....I jumped to conclusions. It seems then even some of us that handle our discs with extreame care may sometimes in advertantly screw something up.

As it turns out my disc froze in the the same spot on another 51fd with out update so I can now say with 100% certaintee that its my disc. Wich is good I have had never had any issues with my player so its just a coincidance this happend after I updated to 1.73.

SO if I coused any one confusion and frustration Im sorry......Im just really supprised my disc is screwd since its got a perfect surface except for the tiniest little Z shaped scratch.....


Vic
post #30063 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Vic C View Post

JULY 3rd UPDATE
Its not my BD51FD and its NOT FIRMWARE 1.73
I wish to take back any thing BAD I may have said about the BDP51FD....I jumped to conclusions. It seems then even some of us that handle our discs with extreame care may sometimes in advertantly screw something up.
As it turns out my disc froze in the the same spot on another 51fd with out update so I can now say with 100% certaintee that its my disc. Wich is good I have had never had any issues with my player so its just a coincidance this happend after I updated to 1.73.
SO if I coused any one confusion and frustration Im sorry......Im just really supprised my disc is screwd since its got a perfect surface except for the tiniest little Z shaped scratch.....
Vic
I have a BDP-320 and BDP-23FD. Those 2009 models are based on the 2008 platform of the BDP-05FD/09FD/51FD. I try so hard to take care of all my discs! However, out of all the players I have used, I must say that I can't believe how sensative these players are to even the slightest scratch! Yet because my 23FD is my favorite movie player, I find myself repurchasing discs which fell victim to the slightest scratch because these players have the best sound and picture quality when coupled with a Pioneer Elite receiverwith PQLS. Yet I have been looking elsewhere because I do need a combination of jitterless audio, pure SACD playback, better stability, better speed, better functionality, and better file compatibility.
post #30064 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Vic C View Post

JULY 3rd UPDATE
Its not my BD51FD and its NOT FIRMWARE 1.73
I wish to take back any thing BAD I may have said about the BDP51FD....I jumped to conclusions. It seems then even some of us that handle our discs with extreame care may sometimes in advertantly screw something up.
As it turns out my disc froze in the the same spot on another 51fd with out update so I can now say with 100% certaintee that its my disc. Wich is good I have had never had any issues with my player so its just a coincidance this happend after I updated to 1.73.
SO if I coused any one confusion and frustration Im sorry......Im just really supprised my disc is screwd since its got a perfect surface except for the tiniest little Z shaped scratch.....
Vic

Hi Vic,

Glad you got it sorted and the player is OK, I had a suspicion it might be the disc from what you had said. These players are sensitive to some less than perfect discs, no ryhme or reason some with minor scratches/marks will play some that look perfect won't. Always worth shot though with bad playability problems on most or all discs to try a cleaner first before going any expensive routes.
post #30065 of 30708
For the guy in AZ: Please also use a Spell-Checker while posting. I found it difficult to read your post. I started to get a headache while reading your first post forward. Appreciate your attention to this.
post #30066 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Vic C View Post

JULY 3rd UPDATE
Its not my BD51FD and its NOT FIRMWARE 1.73
I wish to take back any thing BAD I may have said about the BDP51FD....I jumped to conclusions. It seems then even some of us that handle our discs with extreame care may sometimes in advertantly screw something up.
As it turns out my disc froze in the the same spot on another 51fd with out update so I can now say with 100% certaintee that its my disc. Wich is good I have had never had any issues with my player so its just a coincidance this happend after I updated to 1.73.
SO if I coused any one confusion and frustration Im sorry......Im just really supprised my disc is screwd since its got a perfect surface except for the tiniest little Z shaped scratch.....
Vic
I blamed the player for a lot of my issues too. As it turned out it was a 35' hdmi cable that was in the wall. Not fun.
post #30067 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Toshiman View Post

For the guy in AZ: Please also use a Spell-Checker while posting. I found it difficult to read your post. I started to get a headache while reading your first post forward. Appreciate your attention to this.

This is the Internets, man... spelling, poor grammar, confusion of "their", "there", "they're" - "to"-"too", it's all her for you to enjoy. You'll find posts like yours are just tilting at windmills.
post #30068 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Big C View Post

I have a BDP-320 and BDP-23FD. Those 2009 models are based on the 2008 platform of the BDP-05FD/09FD/51FD. I try so hard to take care of all my discs! However, out of all the players I have used, I must say that I can't believe how sensative these players are to even the slightest scratch! Yet because my 23FD is my favorite movie player, I find myself repurchasing discs which fell victim to the slightest scratch because these players have the best sound and picture quality when coupled with a Pioneer Elite receiverwith PQLS. Yet I have been looking elsewhere because I do need a combination of jitterless audio, pure SACD playback, better stability, better speed, better functionality, and better file compatibility.

I've had my 51FD for four years now and never had a problem. I've rented an average of 2 Blu-ray discs a week.
post #30069 of 30708
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Originally Posted by vlach View Post

I've had my 51FD for four years now and never had a problem. I've rented an average of 2 Blu-ray discs a week.

Yeah I am much the same except I don't do rentals, the only problem (not caused by me experimenting) I had was with that specific DVD MIB ll hanging and whether the lens cleaner or a serious polish of the disc resolved it I'm not sure but blurays no problems at all (fingers crossed)
post #30070 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Rick R View Post

Yeah I am much the same except I don't do rentals, the only problem (not caused by me experimenting) I had was with that specific DVD MIB ll hanging and whether the lens cleaner or a serious polish of the disc resolved it I'm not sure but blurays no problems at all (fingers crossed)
I'm not sure if the 320 and 23FD use the same drives as the 05/09/51, but I had a bad experience with a few slightly scrached Blu-ray rentals, as well as a slightly scrached purchased Blu-ray disc. Hate to burst your bubble, but I thought I'd prepare you.
post #30071 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Big C View Post

I'm not sure if the 320 and 23FD use the same drives as the 05/09/51, but I had a bad experience with a few slightly scrached Blu-ray rentals, as well as a slightly scrached purchased Blu-ray disc. Hate to burst your bubble, but I thought I'd prepare you.

I don't have any bubbles to burst, see some of my other posts. More than fully aware of the short comings of these players had mine a long time now but as I said, "so far no problems with bluray (fingers crossed)" and I am not suffering any of these short comings as some of the other poster's have also confirmed they are not suffering problems discussed on this page and elsewhere. Lot of theories, some people suffer massive failures with drives, others have niggling playability problems, others no problems at all, the theories include whether the product was made in Malaysia or Japan or whether earlier or later models may have had different issues of components some of which may be more reliable than others, who knows? Pioneer keep that one close to the chest. But for me so far I am one of the lucky ones whether thats down to clearing caches, not using rentals and being very careful with discs or just sheer good luck I don't know but while it works I'll keep using it till it dies, then I'll buy another Oppo
Edited by Rick R - 7/8/12 at 7:16pm
post #30072 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Rick R View Post

while it works I'll keep using it till it dies, then I'll buy another Oppo

Ditto
post #30073 of 30708
TOSHIMAN....Well Sorry for me poor spelling.....Theres no spell checker here and to type in another program and copy paste it is a lot of work if you ask me...
Yea I know as a professional AV guy I should present my self as a professional...but thats just it...Im an AV pro not a grammer / english pro. I do some things very very very very well others not so stinking good.

But as bad as my post was typed I do see you were able to figure out what I was saying. If it gave you a head ach well, then its ok to skip over and not make any comments. Your life doesnt depend on it.

Ive been keeping the lense cleaner and a micro cloth on the table in the theater and cleansing those dirty discs.... Im glad my player isnt the only one so sensitive to minor scratches. I guess this is a good thing and a bad thing....Its looking for perfection to give the perfect image LOL.....
post #30074 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Toshiman View Post

I love it how you justify your silly writing skills. I was being nice about it but now you piss all over me as the bad guy. Some ppl
I am replying to your post and there IS a spell checker! For a seasoned poster you should know better. But whatever...no changing YOU! I will just flag you so I don't see you.

Well that post didnt seem nice at all to me it actually seemed rude.
He was the only one complaining about my bad spelling.....Really who cares any way. I wounder if he bothers the members from the other parts of the world that have bad english that portraid in their posts.......Again I say who cares?

If you can t understand my typing dont respond this isnt an assignment in English class lol.
post #30075 of 30708
Been gone a while. What's the latest FW?


thx

bob
post #30076 of 30708
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Originally Posted by spongebob View Post

Been gone a while. What's the latest FW?
thx
bob

Ver 1.73 - Little information, the web site states  ' Enhances stability of BD-ROM/DVD-Video playback' I understand this was mostly to do with a few problem discs in the Euro region which are released by different agencies
post #30077 of 30708
Been a while since I posted in here but was wondering if anyone could help me out? I have a BDP-51FD and I'm not getting any digitial audio output other than the regular two channels (player is connected by digital coax). On the setup menu, the only audio output option available is DTSDownmix, but Dolby Digital and DTS options are grayed out and 'not available'. Thought it might of been my receiver but it is fine, even tried hooking up fiber optic connection and still no go. Just updated to firmware 1.73 hoping that might fix it and no luck.

Any advice? This player has times when it doesn't want to read DVDs but after a couple of tries of placing the disc back in it will work but haven't noticed the audio problem till recently (don't watch as many movie DVDs as I used to). Thanks for the help.
post #30078 of 30708
Dang it, just figured it out so I'm going to post the solution since I know others have also had the same problem in this thread.

I recently moved it to another TV (actually it has been a few months) and the previous TV only had stereo and was setup that way on the BD player. When you want to change the settings, you must go to 'Setup Navigator' first, and change the settings that way and THEN you can go to the individual Audio and Video settings and change them again later if needed. Don't know why you're not able to change them from the Audio/Video menus initially.
post #30079 of 30708
I could not play a BD title "Intruders" on Pioneer BDP-51FD. Updated my players software from 1.72 to the most recent 1.73 and still does not play. I did try playing it on two different 51 FD's and all I'm getting on TV display is a "hallowface" in the rectangular box. Is anyone experiencing the same issue with this particular title? Thanks for replying.
post #30080 of 30708
I made some tests and I realized that the outpout level when selecting 2 Channel outpout is equal to the outpout level when selecting multi-channel outpout and fix channel level, which means +6.00 db.

I was doing some comparisons between dv lx50 dvd player and this one and I realized that the sound level was higher on the 51FD.
But if I choose multi-channel outpout and variable channel level at 0.00 db, I have the same sound level on both players.


So I have 3 questions:

1) What is the normal outpout level on this player: 0.00db or +6.00db?

2) Does +6.00db means there’s some kind of amplification by the player? (which I’m not kind of since my amp is supposed to do that).

3) If the normal level outpout is 0.00db, is there a way to lower the 2 channel outpout level? (since I only have a stereo amp).


Thanks in advance for your answers.
post #30081 of 30708
Has anyone had any issue with the new ghost rider movie. It is the first BD that my 51 wont play.. frown.gif
post #30082 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Padalec View Post

I could not play a BD title "Intruders" on Pioneer BDP-51FD. Updated my players software from 1.72 to the most recent 1.73 and still does not play. I did try playing it on two different 51 FD's and all I'm getting on TV display is a "hallowface" in the rectangular box. Is anyone experiencing the same issue with this particular title? Thanks for replying.

Same here. Display shows hollow then hollowface as if partially loaded then completely loaded, but then it hangs. Whistleblower just hangs during loading. Two disks that I wanted to see, but the BDP-05 won't play them. 1.73 made no difference with Whistleblower. I'd already upgraded by the time I purchased Intruders.
post #30083 of 30708
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Originally Posted by oligregoire View Post


So I have 3 questions:

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Edited by Kilian.ca - 8/14/12 at 12:28am
post #30084 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Kilian.ca View Post

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That is understandable. Most have moved on or got bored with the Unit. I, on the other hand, use my 51FD as often as possible. It has worked flawlessly over the years and I should knock on wood knowing others have not been as fortunate! It is tweaked for my environment and I have no need to upgrade to either a new TV or Receiver or speakers. All of them are going on 11 years. The Toshiba 57" refuses to die so 1080i ain't all that bad!
post #30085 of 30708
still using my Elite 05 player to my Elite 111 fd plasma ..just love it
post #30086 of 30708
I have the same components and feel as you do.
post #30087 of 30708
BDP-05FD won't play Hellboy II, but plays everything else. I get the CAN'T PLAY and UNKNOWNDISC. Any advice, or just the can of compressed air solution?

PS3 has no issues with this disk, but I have the PS3 loud fan issue. meh.
post #30088 of 30708
Oh, F/W 1.73. Can't understand why a dirty blue laser would play some disks, but not others.
post #30089 of 30708
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Originally Posted by johnchabin View Post

BDP-05FD won't play Hellboy II, but plays everything else. I get the CAN'T PLAY and UNKNOWNDISC. Any advice, or just the can of compressed air solution?
PS3 has no issues with this disk, but I have the PS3 loud fan issue. meh.

Just for kicks and giggles, I did a search for this movie on this thread and most posts said either issues with screensaver or DTS mode. Only one reported failure with it but it was a rental. So it appears it should at least play. Have you tried to see if it works on another player (non PS3)? Have you tried getting another copy of the same disc? Is the disc clean and free of scratches or marks? It would be interesting to have that disc to see if it works on my unit.
post #30090 of 30708
Well, I am shocked.

I blew out the drawer with a bit of compressed air like I've seen suggested in other posts, and Hellboy II now plays without issue. Imagine that.
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