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post #30091 of 30708
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Originally Posted by johnchabin View Post

Well, I am shocked.
I blew out the drawer with a bit of compressed air like I've seen suggested in other posts, and Hellboy II now plays without issue. Imagine that.

Yep it's been known to work:) usually a bit of fluff or hair carried in with the disk, great it worked for you. In extreme cases of lens contamination (provided the blue laser is not failing) a bluray lens cleaner with brushes usually resolves the issue. I was not a believer in these devices for a long time but it resolved a specific issue on my 05 with one specific disc but I only ever use it if it is really needed I would not recommend regular use. I use only a good quality one from Maxell with brushes and have only needed to use it once on the 05 so far. Regards compressed air, it is a good idea too to blow off the suspect disc make sure not to get to close and do a squirt away from the disc first to remove any residue or liquid gas before blowing off the disc to remove any really small particles.
post #30092 of 30708
I just ran 1.73 last night because " The Hunger Games" wouldn't load. It loads fine, now.

Oh, we have the BDP51FD, and had not needed to upgrade since "Avatar".
post #30093 of 30708
that's odd... I have a BDP-05FD with 1.72 and "Hunger Games" loaded fine....
post #30094 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Jon S View Post

that's odd... I have a BDP-05FD with 1.72 and "Hunger Games" loaded fine....

Not odd because he didn't have 1.72 either.
post #30095 of 30708
Anyone have audio problems with "The Dictator" theatrical version (I haven't tried the unrated version). I get pops and at one point sound disappeared altogether. Using the analog outputs.
post #30096 of 30708
Quick summary:

I finally decided to replace the DVE calibration disc I got in '97 included in the purchase of my first DVD player. I got the Disney WOW BR version. I ran the calibrations on my Sony Bravia to see how it works, preparing for the arrival of my new LG display (47CS570) in a few days. I could not adjust the brightness or contrast using the disc. The parts that were supposed to be invisible when correctly adjusted would never appear, no matter how much I turned it up. What I did was turn it down and then back up until the 1% star just barely showed up. It was the same with the brightness and contrast patterns. I thought maybe it was the TV.

Then I got my LG and it does the same thing.

Could it be a setting on my blue ray player, the Pioneer BDP-51FD? I tried the settings for .. white adjustment.. I think? The options were things like 4.4.1 and 4.4.4. and some others. I didn't notice a difference on any of them except for one (don't remember which one), which made it worse.

Any ideas would be appreciated.
post #30097 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Michael Conner View Post

Quick summary:
I finally decided to replace the DVE calibration disc I got in '97 included in the purchase of my first DVD player. I got the Disney WOW BR version. I ran the calibrations on my Sony Bravia to see how it works, preparing for the arrival of my new LG display (47CS570) in a few days. I could not adjust the brightness or contrast using the disc. The parts that were supposed to be invisible when correctly adjusted would never appear, no matter how much I turned it up. What I did was turn it down and then back up until the 1% star just barely showed up. It was the same with the brightness and contrast patterns. I thought maybe it was the TV.
Then I got my LG and it does the same thing.
Could it be a setting on my blue ray player, the Pioneer BDP-51FD? I tried the settings for .. white adjustment.. I think? The options were things like 4.4.1 and 4.4.4. and some others. I didn't notice a difference on any of them except for one (don't remember which one), which made it worse.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
may want to check out a few of the post's from this thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1326248/spears-and-munsil-vs-disneys-wow
post #30098 of 30708
My 51FD has started to act up. It usually stops playing Blu-rays at the 20-40 minute mark. Doesn't matter if it John Carter or first Disc of Dexter S6. I stops playing the picture freezes and whatever button I press I get the "Cannot complete action now" or whatever it says. I ca stop the layback go back to the menu and jumpt to the following scene but after a awhile it stops playing again. I tried the compressed air but didn't seem to do ny difference. I also get the "Unknown disk" on the UK release of 50/50. I guess the laser is the problem. I've done the factory reset and I'm on the latest FW.
post #30099 of 30708
Thanks, WestCoast!

I'll read through it.
post #30100 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Tompa View Post

My 51FD has started to act up. It usually stops playing Blu-rays at the 20-40 minute mark. Doesn't matter if it John Carter or first Disc of Dexter S6. I stops playing the picture freezes and whatever button I press I get the "Cannot complete action now" or whatever it says. I ca stop the layback go back to the menu and jumpt to the following scene but after a awhile it stops playing again. I tried the compressed air but didn't seem to do ny difference. I also get the "Unknown disk" on the UK release of 50/50. I guess the laser is the problem. I've done the factory reset and I'm on the latest FW.

Check and make sure the fan is working and not clogged up with dust. Overheating can cause such problems. Could be a BD laser issue, but i don't know why it would work fine initially then start acting up after 20 minutes or so. Hopefully others more knowledgeable than me will chime in as well.
post #30101 of 30708
I have opened it up earlier and went over it with some canned air. Was less dust than I had expected. I'm thinking the laser isn't moving correctly and therefore stops reading when it's getting further away from the center of the disc.
post #30102 of 30708
Hi, all.

I've had my BDP-51FD for about 3 years now. But, recently, I have a problem turning it on.

When I press the power button, it would keep "initializing" forever. It would never come to the ready mode when I could open the tray and insert a disc.
I had unplugged it to reset it, but that didn't work. One time I left it unplugged for overnight, then plugged it back in. It still didn't work.

Any ideas and suggestions????

Thanks
post #30103 of 30708
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Originally Posted by dvd2blu View Post

Hi, all.

I've had my BDP-51FD for about 3 years now. But, recently, I have a problem turning it on.
When I press the power button, it would keep "initializing" forever. It would never come to the ready mode when I could open the tray and insert a disc.
I had unplugged it to reset it, but that didn't work. One time I left it unplugged for overnight, then plugged it back in. It still didn't work.
Any ideas and suggestions????
Thanks

Check post #7 in this thread. There's a Reboot and Factory Reset you could try.

Good luck!
post #30104 of 30708
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Originally Posted by gce View Post

Check post #7 in this thread. There's a Reboot and Factory Reset you could try.
Good luck!

Thanks, GCE.

I had already tried both of those methods without any lucks. My player is still stuck on "power on" mode forever. I think this one is a goner.
post #30105 of 30708
I have seen this sort of message when I had a disc inside that was a failure burn. Try this: When you turn on the power button, immediately hit the Eject button. If it says Please Wait then that is a good sign that there is a bad disc in the unit and after about 1-2 minutes the disc tray will open. If there is no disc in the unit and the tray is fully closed when you get that initializing message and the tray will still not open then I'd say it is in need of repair. You could try opening up the unit yourself and do a manual tray ejection. There are instructions on this Thread to show how to do that if you do not have the instructions.
post #30106 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Toshiman View Post

I have seen this sort of message when I had a disc inside that was a failure burn. Try this: When you turn on the power button, immediately hit the Eject button...

Actually he can try powering it up by hitting the eject button instead of the power button. If there is a bad disc in it he may have better luck ejecting the tray this way.
post #30107 of 30708
Update on my callibration issue:

After the issue persisted with 2 different bluray players and 2 different TVs, it finally hit me: the receiver. I ran the player directly to the TV and then the calibration images display properly so that I could do a more exact adjustment on picture and contrast. I looked through the receiver's settings (Yamaha RX-V663) , but could not see anything that might cause this. I suppose the receiver is just stripping out some video information.

I guess the best I can do it calibrate it hooked straight to the TV, then run it back through the receiver and accept whatever changes it's making to the video?
post #30108 of 30708
Thank you, Toshiman and Kemitchell.

It never occurred to me that there might be a disc stuck in there. I will open it and see if I can remove the disc manually.

Thanks again.
post #30109 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Sailor08 View Post


There is a way mentioned on the service manual, using what they call a Disc Ejection Rod, though it also says that you can use a 1mm long rod to do it.

It requires you to open the player's case. I'm attaching the manual's illustration

for this. So it's either opening the unit and trying again or sending it for repair.
525x525px-LL-e9877d68_vbattach139938.jpeg

Here is the Disc Ejection info just to make it fresh again!
post #30110 of 30708
Is ther an online downloadable version of the manual?
post #30111 of 30708
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Originally Posted by shadowcaster View Post

Is ther an online downloadable version of the manual?

Yes, did you look on Pioneer's website? It's pretty easy to find.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Blu-ray-Disc/Pioneer-Blu-ray-Disc-Players/BDP-51FD?tab=manuals
post #30112 of 30708
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Originally Posted by kemitchell View Post

Yes, did you look on Pioneer's website? It's pretty easy to find.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Blu-ray-Disc/Pioneer-Blu-ray-Disc-Players/BDP-51FD?tab=manuals
No, not the owner's manual...the SERVICE manual.
post #30113 of 30708
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Originally Posted by shadowcaster View Post

No, not the owner's manual...the SERVICE manual.

Check your PM's
post #30114 of 30708
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Originally Posted by shadowcaster View Post

No, not the owner's manual...the SERVICE manual.

Sorry, all you said was "the manual" and didn't specify, I just assumed you meant the owner's manual.

I may have a .pdf of the service manual at home. I'll check after work.
post #30115 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Rick R View Post

Check your PM's
Got it, thanks Rick !!

@kenmitchell..."the manual" was referencing the post right above mine (#30110), which had a pic of a service manual page,
post #30116 of 30708
Is there anything noted in the Service Manual on any terminal (in or out) used as a bypass? I want to use the 51FD as a conduit from a Media Streamer Player.
post #30117 of 30708
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Originally Posted by Padalec View Post

I could not play a BD title "Intruders" on Pioneer BDP-51FD. Updated my players software from 1.72 to the most recent 1.73 and still does not play. I did try playing it on two different 51 FD's and all I'm getting on TV display is a "hallowface" in the rectangular box. Is anyone experiencing the same issue with this particular title? Thanks for replying.
Yes. My BDP-05FD v. 1.73 would not play Intruders ((Netflix). It froze on the “Hollowface" screen, so,I requested a replacement. Same problem. I forced the player in to Title 10 search where the screen displayed “Disc and Player Region Mismatch". Very interesting. My unit plays flawlessly on most other discs.
post #30118 of 30708
Thanks for reply. Appears that this particular disc (Intruders) will not play on any 05FD's or 51FD's. We need to report this problem to Pioneer for a fix. I'm not sure how much longer they will support our players. It's the only title I can not play. Thanks.
post #30119 of 30708
Hi All,

can anyone confirm if the new 1.73 firmware is Cinavia free?

and/or can anyone give me a link to v1.70?

thanks.
post #30120 of 30708
I have 1.70 CD that I burned; you're welcome to it. PM me if you want it.

Glenn
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