Official Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD & BDP-51FD Owners Thread / Vs 1.32 DTS-HD MA - Page 1009

Try this link to the page on the Pioneer 320/23 thread where this was discussed.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1142263/pioneer-bdp-320-bdp-23fd-owners-thread/5970

It starts at post # 5989

Vmat was very helpful. You might PM him for assistance. Also, I may still have some of our PM exchanges when he was helping me make my 320 region free for DVDs.

Btw, I used a Harmony remote to do this. Don't know if it can be done with an iPhone.

 

Well then, you'll have to improve your search skills, or get a new search engine!

 

There are lots of solutions out there for the iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad to be used as an IR type remote control.  One of my favorites is iRule.  Some others are the Griffin Beacon, the Peel Fruit, RedEye, etc...  Again there are lots of 'em.

 

Here is a link to iRule:  http://www.iruleathome.com/

 

And here's a link to an iRule tutorial for the IR learner for the iOS devices:  http://support.iruleathome.com/customer/portal/articles/473957

 

Now, as you investigate the possibility of using a product like iRule, you will very quickly realize that this solution will require some of your time and money to implement.  As I said in my earlier post, you will have to buy some hardware to be able to use a wifi - IP signal from an iPhone and convert it to an IR signal that your Pioneer player can respond to.

 

At the end of the day, it may well be more cost effective for you and less time consuming to simply buy a cheap Harmony IR remote and use the Logitech/Harmony data base for the codes and to make the change.

 

But, in regards to your original post; "Do you know if it is possible to make the dvd part of the player region free with an Iphone? I know it is possible with some remotes but with an Iphone?", yes it is possible to access the player via IR command using an iPhone.  

 

While I agree, ones money is much better spent an a newer Blu-ray player; but to Pioneer's credit, they have continued to support all of their Blu-ray players to date with necessary firmware updates including their first, the BDP-HD1 from 2007.  To my knowledge, I have seen no official or unofficial information from Pioneer that they will stop any time in the future.

 

Another possibility to want one of these machines is that it does not have internet connectivity and the fact that it does not have Cinavia embedded in the hardware or hardware that will support Cinavia.

Ok. Thanks for your answer.

^^^

Wow

That didn't go over too well.

Kind of a blast from the past...

Changed my AVR from pre-HDMI to "modern" Pioneer. Problem: despite purusals of the famous "Post #7" and scannning/searching the prior 1000 pages (!!!), I am still floundering with audio via HDMI.

Receiver is plugged-in via HDMI from -51. I want audio via HDMI from BD-51 to modern Codec-accepting receiver. My fumble-fingered attempts have given me an audio over HDMI to receiver that is very lifeless from (for example) 5.1 DVD. Currently, 5.1 via digital optical from OTA Television to receiver is much better. As was "Blu-ray/DVD Digital Audio" via the optical before the new receiver.

What am I doing wrong? Went thru the "Setup" selections and thought that I got them right. Probably didn't. Again, sounds really lifeless and I'm too new with this receiver (craigslist vsx-821 Pioneer) to really understand what it might be telling me via front display.

Does anyone have a quick "cheat-sheet" for the set-up of the -51 in this configuration. I compared what I could between the RX-V765/BD-51fd combo I have in our theater (where everything seems to work FINE) and the evolving set-up in the family room, and I can't see where I went wrong. I must have done something dumb, but I can't see precisely where. I need to have the -51 settings for audio maximum outputs to a "modern" AVR via HDMI with full Codec support. There is some non-intuitive menu item that I've got wrong, and I need some of you more modern folks to tell me how to figure it.

Help.


A humble thanks,
Mike K

It helps to know what your AVR shows it's getting. I suspect you're getting 2CH...

Output Terminal: Audio: HDMI

High-Speed Transmission: ON
HDMI Audio Out: Auto (bitstream) OR
PCM (AVR should show MULTICH or PCM)

It's really that simple.

Anything else is AVR set-up issue...

@Mkard

Hi Mike

First check you PM's

The above from kilian.ca is pretty much spot on. If your audio output terminal has been set to digital, which from what you say it probably is you need to change it as described above. From the Pio AVR point of view you will need to go into speaker settings in the main menu and check they are all enabled. These receivers can sound a bit flat if you have not done the MCACC calibration, this feature will also automatically check for the connected speakers if you run it in auto. Check the manual for the full procedure but it is simple and easy takes about 10mins for the full auto procedure (recommended for unfamiliar users) put the calibration microphone at or very near your seated postion at ear height, do it with no one else around and be as quiet as possible or leave the room. It is noisy if you are staying in the room ear protection is recommended particularly if you are going to do it two or three times. Have the room set up as you would normally watch your movies ie curtains closed or open doors closed or open etc.
Edited by Rick R - 1/15/13 at 8:39am

@oligregoire

Well researched reply from b curry with lots of information. You also asked about hex codes and other items for DVD region free. As I understand it that is a bit more complex for region 1 51fd and 05fd in order to make it region free it initially has to be a region 2 player (or perhaps other regions, not researched that far) but the following links should help

http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/303905-How-to-apply-Pioneer-BDP-LX71-hack-using-PC-or-laptop

http://www.pioneerfaq.info/english/bdplx71.php?player=BDP-LX71&question=Multiregion

http://pioneerfaq.info/filer/region_freel-51FD.pdf

The last item is probably most informative and from one of the very early members of this thread. For your information the BDP-LX71 is the european version of the BDP-05fd.

http://www.pioneerfaq.info/ is a very useful site for many things Pioneer including firmware past and present for players and AVR worth a visit if not just for the above
Edited by Rick R - 1/15/13 at 8:12am

Killian and Rick,

Thanks.

I haven't figured out precisely what the display of the AVR is telling me. I'll need to read the 821K manual .pdf (zoom enabled) to have a chance of discerning the info.
I initially did as Killian noted, and then seemed to have problems described. I'll go back in and apply Rick's nuanced PM'd approach (some esoteric things have to be set BEFORE the output priority is changed) and see what changes.

I am selling one of these BD-51's and need to get them configured to the more modern rigs for effective demo. Your help is appreciated.

Mike K

Mkard, Have you tried a factory reset? See page 49 for the proper button symbols

All,

Many thanks for the re-configure advice. All instructions followed, and now all is good from -51fd.

Now if I can just get the #@*&!! Pio vsx 821 to sound as good as the 9yr old Yamaha it replaced. sigh.

Again, thanks to all.

Mike K

As I'm sure you know, the 51's DACs are really excellent. If you have a "multi-channel" analog in available, run the analog outs from the 51 to the receiver.

For a long time it sounded as good as most sub $1000 CD players!

But maybe you're doing the HDMI-audio thing for some reason I don't know about. I haven't read the entire exchange.

erkq,

Yes, the 51fd has really good DAC's. I have had the multi ch outs in my main 5.1 setup. Very nice. Currently use the only Stereo Analog outs directly for something near audiophile purity using the ampliers in my rig.

In this family room ( "Den" for those across the pond) setup, I am only running a 3.1 Paradigm speaker set. Thus, I am used to sound shaping by the AVR to sense some surround. Yamaha rx-v450 did really, really well with this set-up getting digital out from TV and -51fd. Trying to get all to work nicely via HDMI to this new (used) Pioneer AVR.

Family room has added an Xbox-360 that outputs via HDMI, and kid has her music on iTouch. Thus, I need to bring the "convenience" of an HDMI/iFriendly receiver. Ha!

Things change.

Mkard

Had some extra time on my hands and decided to pull one of my old 51's out of the closet and hook it up with analog cables to give it a go as a cd player. I was absolutely amazed with the depth and clarity it was producing.
I think im gonna end up leaving it hooked up for serious listening sessions as it blows my pioneer elite pd-f27 cd changer out of the water.
And to think I almost gave this thing away for mere shipping and handling

t-town,

Yep. Pretty nice unit for audio. Analog pure-direct via amps is quite nice in our rooms too. Oh, just one room now. I sold the -51 in my Den today to a gent who seems quite happy to get it. He fired it up at home tonight and is pleased. I suspect his audio gear is nicer than my budget systems, but all seem to agree that the Pio -51fd will do justice to most any rig.

Brought -51 from LivingRoom theater into Den as the main theater rig just got an OPPO. Set-up adventures this weekend!

Take care of your old Pio, might be really nice for a long time.

Good luck,

Mike

Just saying hi. I picked up the 51fd Mike K above mentioned he was selling.

Hooked up after spending some time cleaning up some wiring. Not yet running the multi analog audio (fewer mono cables in my closet than I thought I had) but that is the plan. Might make my own cables just for fun, not sure.

Tron BD looked and sounded terrific (optical audio, hdmi video, surround audio easy enough to figure out). Wasn't shopping for this player but sometimes just fun to stumble in and go for it (hooray to Craigslist).

No way ill ever read 30k+ posts, sure hope I won't need to. Ha.....

--t

Watched Senna last night. Terrific!

Mike - thx for your time with the purchase. Player was obviously well cared for, hoping it lasts a few years more. Enjoy that new Oppo!!

Both my 05 and 51 FD's are kicking.

Me too... runs perfectly. We gotta pat each other on the back...

tliavs,

Really glad that you are happy. Understand not wanting to shovel through probably 998 pages of "what?". But, please go back to page #1, post #7. Has much that is very helpful, even after all these years. There are other great ones here and there. Fun.

See a few of my posts in the last 2wks for example of person needing help. You are now on one of the greatest threads of AVS. Many knowledgable and helpful, (and kindly disposed ) persons do keep an eye on this.

Best regards, you and yours.

Mike

p.s. VERY nice looking HT (no emoticon for seething ENVY...)

is the latest firmware for the 05fd 1.73?

if not, what is and where can i d/l it?

thanks!

1.73 is it as far as I know.

natess,

Are you having trouble with 1.73? Let us know please.

Best all around resource for everything Pio 05/51fd is kindly provided by a contributor Hkan at : http://www.pioneerfaq.info/english/bdplx71.php

Includes link to most recent Euro and North American FW releases. Nice place to browse.

Good luck,

Mkard

 

Yes, v1.73 is the last firmware distributed.  The last update was April 25, 2012.

 

You can access Pioneer's firmware support and updates for the BDP-05FD here: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Blu-ray-Disc/Elite-Blu-ray-Disc-Players/BDP-05FD?tab=firmware

well, my mom bought a bluray 'downton abbey season 1' and when she plays it there is a crackling noise the entire time.

all other BR's work in the BR player and this downton abbey BR works in my friends brand new BR player.

so i'm not sure what the issue is sound wise. i d/l'ed and installed 1.73 last night and the crackling sound still occurs.

I have Downton Abbey seasons 1 & 2 and all of the discs play fine in my 51.

Blu-ray or DVD? Dumb question, but one can never assume...

this is driving me nuts.

i checked my 05FD and i am at 1.73.

all my other Blurays work, yet everytime i put Downton Abbey in, i get a static/crackling sound - ughhhhhhh

Blu-ray.