Official Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD & BDP-51FD Owners Thread / Vs 1.32 DTS-HD MA - Page 104

Well first let me say you are better at using DVE and only your eye than I was from what you are saying. I don't use basic I use advanced and set to 1080P. However I know what you are talking about. I dont see why you have to use both unless you feel that both help you. And remeber one thing its your TV and your eyes and you are the one that must be pleased with what you see.
And as far as using Color and Tint in the picture tab I would say 6+ is the highest and Tint should be 0. Contrast should should be in a range from 25 to 33, bright should be from =1 to +2.

Update. I just looked at your settings and they seem ok. But two things why use 3DNR Low and DRE, Black Level ON. They can do strange things to your picture.

Gotta love the recycled model numbers. Anyone remember the Pioneer Elite DV-09 DVD player? Man what a turd that was...And slow too! Of course I'm sure the 09FD will be a little better.

Thanks Aaron.

Our audio/video setup has been calibrated by UMR so I'm going to stick to the same basic structure. Thanks for your input.

Thanks for the help. I don't have the player yet so all the settings are floating around in my disorganized head.

I'm assuming that a Blu-ray recorded as video like "Planet Earth" would be output in 1080i@60fps using Source Direct in my setup.

With a 60" Kuro the better SD transfers have been looking pretty good. I'm not sure how they would look on a 100"+ screen.

Are you using a receiver or a preamp with 1.2a HDMI?

I can understand you wanting to use your ISF calibration Video/Audio because of your investment in what you paid urm. And for the most part urm calibration will probable work ok after you maximize your system. But you will not get the best out of your system not using high speed and a 1.2 HDMI A/V. That goes for video and probably audio. And why I say audio is because I think there is a fair chance that the Audio from the 51/05 will be a little off from your audio calibration. So why not just run your audio to your denon with analog cables and your video directly to your Kuro using a 1.3 cat 2 HDMI cable. And the total cost should be if you use monoprice maybe $35. And if anybody can think of a better and cheaper way to maximize your system for video I would sure like to know. But talk it over with the wife first.
btw even if you keep your chain the same as it is now your ISF settings for video and maybe audio will be off because of your new 51/05. And I think your isf guy posted that something like a new BD player will cause your setting to be off from what they were.

I would like to thank sillysally for the link to imgburn. Had no problems creating the update disc. Down loaded fine to the 05.

Watched Pirates of the Caribbean II BD, truly an amazing picture. The sound quality also amazing. Watch a couple of old sd movies and the upgrade was fine.

Started watching Patton BD and the movie was crystal clear.

I had a lip sync problem with Ratatouille even with the new firmware installed. Press pause then play it cleared up. Then towards the end of the movie it happened again. I did not reset the player after the firmware was installed. I am going to try this then reset my parameters and play the disc again.

Once again thanks for all your help.

Pioneer 5080 display
Marantz SR-19 AVR
Definitive Speakers
Pioneer BDP-05FD

anybody experience the ocassional, random, unrepeatable pumping effect when feeding the audio out using optical?

Jose, Make sure that you Un-Zip the file, before burning the CD-R disc for your Player. Most of the time you see DATA in the window it was because they Burned the disc before Un-Zipping the file. Don't look for two files one is hidden. Just a suggestion.

Oh yeah, UNZIP it...

it unzips to 2 files:

1. BDP_0551FD_Ver102 (iso file)
2. .DLdiscidentifier (txt file)

No, and mine has been connected that way for 1 month.

Nope, Robert doesn't hold back, that is why I like him

I haven't had to yet but since I have 165 HD DVDs am sure it will. I blame the 51 for making me purchae 52 BDs in one month ok, ok it is my 1st BD player after all

Has anyone tried 05 or 51 through analog outs video and audio?

What has your experience been?

Do they also upconvert SD DVDs on component video out?

Thank you.

A new BD player would not alter the calibration if the BD player is properly setup.

The link to the firmware update and its instructions has been posted multiple times in this thread. Here it is again:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU....Support?tab=B

The installation instructions also tell you how to see the firmware revision - this is not something you'd trip over ordinarily!


I'll disagree with the "bottom right" text - it showed to me just below the values for aspect ratio.

Mark me down as another satisfied owner of the BDP-51, particularly after the 1.02 upgrade. The Panasonic is headed to eBay and I always have the
PS3 for profile 2.0 content.

I don't think enough has been emphasized in this (voluminous) thread of the audio improvement evident with the Pioneer. I A/B compared the Panny, PS3 and 51 as fairly as possible with a few concert BDs, Tony Bennett, David Gilmour, Celine Dion and the John Legend disc. I felt the the 51 conistently offered a better soundstage, clarity and fullness that wasn't present in the other players. Definitely not a placebo effect...IMO.

I know you are an experience calibrator but on my 150 the grey scale and color controls are alot different than when I had my 95fd.

What does that matter? A BD player is not going to change the calibration unless it is doing something wrong.

Add Beowulf to the list of problem discs for firmware 1.02. It cannot be played without intermittent freezing. I had to watch it with my PS3, good thing it's still hooked in my system.

What HD-DVD player do you guys have?

Now you're just rubbing salt in the wound...

VE hasn't shipped any 51's yet (that I'm aware of). Hopefully this coming week.


Scott

Many people also say that all cd players, amps, etc sound exactly the same. Now here it comes for blu-ray players as well. In a perfect world maybe all electronics should perform equally, but all electronics are not perfect so back to reality. Why don't we let people find out for themselves what looks and sounds better to their eyes and ears. By the way, Do all dvd players perform the same?

Does this player output the lossless stuff via the component or just through HDMI? If not is there a 1.3 compliant HDMI splitter out there where I can run the HDMI to the splitter and have one go right to my kuro and the other to my receiver which I dont think handles the deep color (Yammy RX-V3800)?

I just opened my copy of Beowulf and loaded it into my 51FD, so far I'm about 7 minutes into it and no freezing yet...

I just burn a copy of the firmware up-date,Im computer challenged! When I got done & played it on my computer it shows up as a iso file,did I screw up? Is it suppose to be audio like the Integra 9.8 upgrade? thanks ps I did unzip it.

(edited 480i approach)

I think you have a couple of options for non-anamorphic letterbox DVDs on the 5080. One is to set the 51's "4:3 video out" setting to full, have the 51 ouput 480i and use the 5080 in zoom mode.

The other that seems to work is to have "4:3 video out" set to full, have the 51 upconvert to 1080 and use the 5080 in zoom. ( I think the zoom mode on the 5080 only does a vertical strecth when getting an HD format.)

Once you have te iso. use this program to burn it to disk.
http://www.mrbass.org/dvdrip/

I'm not sure what you burned on your CD...but you need to use your CD/DVD burning software and create an "image". Then select the .iso file "BDP_0551FD_Ver102.iso". Don't create a "data" CD. Hope this helps.

Can you explain? The ISF settings I have play well for BD, but not for DVD or Cable TV. I must reset the colors, brightness, sharpness controls, etc, for different sources.