Official Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD & BDP-51FD Owners Thread / Vs 1.32 DTS-HD MA - Page 319

Did anyone ever get a handle on just what combination of button presses might lead to a lock up? Or what buttons pushed in quick succession would lead to a lock up?

Like I've always maintained, I've never had one lock up to this point. Now that Pioneer has addressed the issue, I'd like to try and duplicate a lock up....just skipping chapters was that the main culprit....and like how fast?

-Power on time is about the same for me, 24 sec.
-Disc detection is about 3-4 sec faster, Iron Man and Cars.
-Movie menu navigation IS smoother and a bit quicker. This I really noticed.
-Chapter +/- skip is almost instantaneous, but FF and REV indicator(black bar across the top) still stays on for about 5 sec as with prev fw.

Never really had issues with any of my 50 or so discs before fw 1.17, but I don't have any of the Bond movies.
Would've liked to have the power on time to be around the 15 sec mark, but oh well...

By the way, welcome back Chris.
One question.....any chance the 05 can be turned on from standby using the open/close key on the remote on future updates? A few of my older dvd players did this.
I know it can be done with the panel key.

Ver 1.17
CHANGE HISTORY:
- Enhances stability of BD-Java playback (*)
- Fixes the case that error happens occasionally when hitting certain buttons repeatedly.
- Fixes the case that player hangs when choosing certain items on menu of Blu-ray.
- Fixes the case that the player does not work properly in combination operation of pause, fast-forward, and so on.
- Enhances the synchronization with audio and video during playback.
- Performance improvement
* The player's action can be slower than expected depending on contents (menu, game, etc.) included in certain BD-Java discs.

This is awesome! Thanks for sticking with us Chris...even with the few very vocal naysayers.

Welcome back Chris!

I never lost faith in Pioneer.

Yes Gary doesn't see the crush on his system. However what I guess you don't understand is that I use Pioneer to Pioneer. BD51 and a sig 141 monitor. And from what is coming out in this thread is that the problem lies with some of the Pioneer Kuros. The reason why I say some of the Pioneer Kuros, is because I have never calibrated anything other than Kuros, so I can not speak for other brands of TVs, projectors and monitors. As I cant speak for other comparisons of BD players except for the BD05/51 and the panny 55/35.

As for Ken, he has a very unique gift. He can calibrate with out using hardware. As for me I must use my I1pro along with calman to do what Ken can do with his eyes.

That is good news. I feel very good about the new direction Pioneer seems to be taking.
Now maybe I and the rest of us can see what I and others like you Robert saw when the BD05/50 first came out.
So for now I will take a wait and see stance, and if Pioneer does what Robert is reporting, then there will be no need for me to bring pressure on pioneer anymore.

Peter.

Yippee!!!!

New FW!!!

What does that mean?


What's a presser?

Sorry, you're waiting to see what you saw???

Nice to see you back Chris.

C'mon guys, I know you're all feeling a little vindication.

But lets keep this new direction going.....The WtW issue will get resolved, and no one in here is saying there is fault with your 141....Just a mysterious oddity when coupled with 9g Elites and Sig's....No one is expressing end all be all knowledge on that suject.

I'm curious though sillysally, didn't you see NO white crush when you had the 51 hooked up to your 150? I thought you had a 150 before getting the 141....

That is the number I came up with checking a few disks...

Dana

Uh, its out already

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/ep...1FD_Ver117.zip

Robert, this reminds me of Watergate. Do you have an inside contact named "Deep Throat" at Pioneer?

Thanks for the update!

Well I can tell you what I did not see. I did not see 1.12 firmware. I just downloaded 1.17 firmware. Hay just maybe Pioneer saw 1.12 firmware as I did, that being just a "bandaid". So as I said before I was skeptical about ever seeing 1.12 .

I would suggest to you that you read my posts for the last few weeks and then maybe you will not be confused anymore.

As I have said all along I was trying to put pressure on Pioneer, not us owners. That is why I spent my money on the panny BD55, so I could speak from a A/B comprehension point of view. I am sorry if I have offended anyone, that was never my intent. My intent was to bring out the truth as I saw it to get some action on Pioneers part to help everyone.

If you are looking for a discrete power command, Play will bring the player out of standby.

zooomm!!!

Just updated from v1.08b to v1.17.

Unlike others here, I have not noticed quicker boot up time, disc recognition time, nor load time. All are the same as before. I tested this using 3 movies I recently watched; Close Encounters BD (both movie and special feature disc), Saving Private Ryan DVD, and Star Wars Ep II DVD.

However, navigation within the disc does seem smoother and more responsive. Trying trying a variety of controls (chapter skip, scan, stop, start, etc) and repeatedly loading, ejecting and reloading discs did not produce any lockups so far. I hope this means that the problem I was having (occasionally locking up when loading a disc) is fixed. This didn't happen very often, so I'll have to give it some time to see how it goes.

Testing Star Wars Ep II (I know this DVD has been used by others to test menu navigation and DVD layer change) the menu does seem smoother and more responsive but the layer change remains the same at 2-3 seconds.

In the past I had a problem with the sound on the Chicago DVD using the multi analog outs (v1.02). I was able to repeat the problem several times in a row before giving up. The next day I tried again and the problem was gone! I happy to report that with v1.17 it is playing fine.

So my initial impression is that v1.17 offers better stability and smoother operation within a disc. I do not have any of the known problem discs, so I wasn't able to test those.

I am disappointed I did not get quicker bootup/disc recognition/load times and improved DVD layer changes. However, although I would have like to see Pioneer work to improve both stability and speed at the same time, given a choice I would pick stability way over speed. Afterall, speed means nothing if you don't have stability.

Ok, time to quit posting and go enjoy a movie!

No big deal but for what it is worth the green screen issue still exists with BDP-05 to a 94TXH to Pro150.
Only happens when High speed HDMI is on and source direct or 480i is used playing a sd DVD.
Since I run resolution in auto it doesn't bother me.

BTW in movie navigation seems much smoother with 1.17 and white level on my 150 is un changed.

Just upgraded. Can't really comment on the boot-up speed or load time. I think it might be a hair faster, but not enough to grab my attention. I was running 1.08b before. CD recognition seems faster. Menus are faster. I haven't had any disc crashes yet, so can't test that part either. Overall, it keeps getting better. Love this player!

The potential in the BD51/05 when It first came out. As I have said many times In my recent posts.

I missed spelled pressure. So sue me.

Hi guys,
Sorry for my question, but 319 pages of replies is just too much to catch on.

I am about to buy my Pioneer Pro-151 elite display. What BR player would be best to go together with the display?
I am looking for a BR player that does good up scaling of standard DVD discs as well, since most of my library is standard.

Thanks for any input.

Help! Anybody know why when I down load 1.17 there is only one file when they say there should be 3? I've tried 3 times with no luck. Thanks!

Well, for the folks that have owned this player for months with frequent (and infrequent issues), I hope this is the end of the problems... Players should play all discs all the time (and most BD players do).

When unzipped it is one file... When burned as a iso it should show up as three files...

Dana

What is your budget and what AVR will you be using?

$500 to $700 max.

AVR?

Actually, I have been reading your posts here; since way back when you were trying to figure out High Speed HDMI cable.

Keep spending that money though, it helps the economy. And by all means, keep the pressure on Pioneer. I'm sure everyone here is grateful for your leveraged actions against Pioneer. Maybe you'll make dts-MA appear before Christmas.

I have the 151 and the 05fd works great for blu-ray. I am using an oppo 983 for standard dvd playback however. Once you start watching blu-ray though it is hard to watch standard dvd.