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I tend to put things off because I need a lotta time and patience to get things right (a cocktail or two doesn't hurt )

I'll bet you cook with wine too... and sometimes even put it in the food!?
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I'll bet you cook with wine too... and sometimes even put it in the food!?

It goes in the food???
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I'm ROFL!
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can the magnavox 2610A record or playback divix?
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can the magnavox 2610A record or playback divix?

The manual specifically says no, but it has been wrong on several other things... I don't think anyone has actually confirmed it can or can't... yet!?
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The manual specifically says no, but it has been wrong on several other things... I don't think anyone has actually confirmed it can or can't... yet!?


The Phillips and Magnavox cannot record in DIVX.

The Phillips will playback DIVX but the Magnavox will not. I had the Phillips in the living room and moved it to the bedroom when I got the 2160. I popped a DIVX in the 2160 and was rather supprised it did not play since it is so similar to the Phillips machine.
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I also spotted this ...
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http://www.magnavox.com/p/index_player.php?id=29

Kind of made me happy to see it, since it's dated June 09 -- not exactly looking like it's being discontinued any time soon (as some customer service folks have intimated). Let's hope....

It's actually surprising to see the 2160 listed at all. For the longest time only the 2080 was shown on their site.
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I even copied a very old HBO special from VHS and titled it (kinda proud of myself there)

Congratulations: I'm proud of you too! One of my pet gripes with the H2160 is its titling (dys)function: its fine if you're one of those people who texts and Twitters all day and night on their flip-phones, and learned ten-key data entry. I'm not one of those people: I wouldn't be caught dead using my cell for anything but voice communication, and then not willingly. For me, titling on the Maggie remote is a tedious nightmare: I much prefer the "use arrow keys to choose letters and symbols off an onscreen keyboard" of other recorders. So I say, "kudos" to any fellow curmudgeons out there who slog thru and title their Magnavox recordings!
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I much prefer the "use arrow keys to choose letters and symbols off an onscreen keyboard" of other recorders.

My Sony RDRHX780 lets me input a PC keyboard via USB.
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My Pioneers accept USB keyboards, like your Sony, but it turned out not to be as useful as I expected: I never have a keyboard handy when I need one and the cords are never long enough. Unless I have a large number of recordings to title at once, I find the on-screen keyboard quicker- and its always there!
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Got this reply from "Kenny" at J & R today:

The refurbished units come & go all the time, and the quantities are impossible to predict, but just continue to check our website.


Better than a no-way, no -how, no (know) nuthin response! Works for me
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As I said in an earlier post, no one's going to get a useful answer by contacting J&R..... The easiest way to keep track is bookmark the J&R DVD recorders section and check it every day to see if the Mag comes back in stock. When I snagged mine a couple weeks ago, it was because I saw them turn up on the J&R web page and went downtown in person to buy. ........

thanks for the tips/info, CitiBear ....does this look like the correct/best page to find it at? >

http://www.jr.com/category/video-tv/dvd/dvd-recorders/

or do they have a separate refurb product page somewhere else? on the left side of the page under SPECIAL OFFERS there are no refurbs listed right now....is that where the H2160 refurbs were found a few weeks ago?
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thanks for the tips/info, CitiBear ....does this look like the correct/best page to find it at? >

http://www.jr.com/category/video-tv/dvd/dvd-recorders/

or do they have a separate refurb product page somewhere else? on the left side of the page under SPECIAL OFFERS there are no refurbs listed right now....is that where the H2160 refurbs were found a few weeks ago?

I usually just search for "Magnavox." They don't usually have anything, but if refurbs are available, that's when the "Magnavox"search returns something good.
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I usually just search for "Magnavox." They don't usually have anything, but if refurbs are available, that's when the "Magnavox"search returns something good.

Here's a link that will work when they have units, but goes to their default page if not.
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pm3839, yes, that would be the best link to find the Magnavox refurbs. This is their complete list of available DVD recorders on any given day. It is never more than two pages, so you can easily eyeball the two pages for the Magnavoxes in about half a minute- no big deal. Depending how coy J&R wants to be, the Maggies either appear first in the list on page 1 or at the end of the list on page 2. Note also if you're bargain hunting for companion models, J&R sometimes stocks a "refurb trifecta": the H2160 for $159, the earlier 2080 (with 80GB hdd) for $129, and similar unit with ATSC/QAM tuner but no hdd for about $99-$119.

I would not advise using any bookmarks that go directly to the specific H2160 listing: as wajo said, if its not available you just get bounced back to the home page, from which its tricky to find your way back to the DVD recorders subsection. Also, since the refurbs are technically not a permanent SKU at J&R, the link is subject to being broken or changed at any time. On items with regular availablity that are part of J&Rs "regular" stock, when they sell out temporarily they remain on the web pages with a note "coming soon" or "ships within 3 weeks". When the Maggie refurbs sell out, J&R has no guaranteed promise from Funai when or if they will get the next batch, so all reference to the Mags disappears from the J&R website and top-level internal systems. It is critical that shoppers understand this when checking J&R for availablity: since J&R does not sell "factory fresh" Magnavoxes day-to-day, only occasional batches of refurbs, Magnavox availability data is not in their main database or web page coding. The Maggie refurbs are a specialized sporadic "niche" offering that only a couple head-office buyers deal with: the bulk of J&R employees have no access to H2160 availability info until the day their main office puts it back on the web page and enters the stock quantity into their internal database. Note my reported experience (posted above) with the in-store salesperson: he had no clue what I was talking about at first, because the Maggie info was nowhere to be found in his terminal. The H2160 was added back to the web page a couple days before they actually had the stock in hand, causing an employee disconnect. It was only my own personal past use of such terminals that enabled me to help the salesperson drill down into the nested hidden subsections where he could find the "pending" shipment due in the next day. You will not be able to do this with a phone or email inquiry.
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Congratulations: I'm proud of you too! One of my pet gripes with the H2160 is its titling (dys)function: its fine if you're one of those people who texts and Twitters all day and night on their flip-phones, and learned ten-key data entry. I'm not one of those people: I wouldn't be caught dead using my cell for anything but voice communication, and then not willingly. For me, titling on the Maggie remote is a tedious nightmare: I much prefer the "use arrow keys to choose letters and symbols off an onscreen keyboard" of other recorders. So I say, "kudos" to any fellow curmudgeons out there who slog thru and title their Magnavox recordings!

Thanks for the kudos-It took me a couple of tries to do the title. I even have incoming text messages blocked on my cell phone, which I use very rarely. Guess I am a curmudgeon-my wife says so anyway!
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Thanks for the kudos-It took me a couple of tries to do the title. I even have incoming text messages blocked on my cell phone, which I use very rarely. Guess I am a curmudgeon-my wife says so anyway!

What POs me the worst about those text msgs. is I just recently found out even if I got a wrong number text(and I don't even open it up) I'm charged .40 cents Since then I also had text msgs. blocked
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What POs me the worst about those text msgs. is I just recently found out even if I got a wrong number text(and I don't even open it up) I'm charged .40 cents Since then I also had text msgs. blocked

Exactly-all I got were weight loss ads from some place in Manila-at .40 cents a pop
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Makes me wanna go back to smoke signals.
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What POs me the worst about those text msgs. is I just recently found out even if I got a wrong number text(and I don't even open it up) I'm charged .40 cents Since then I also had text msgs. blocked

I never use text messaging and tell my daughter to never send me any so the only ones I get are from spammers and advertisers. Call me perverse but I rather enjoy calling Verizon every month to have them credit my bill for unsolicited text messages. They would rather do that than have me block text messaging in the off-hand chance I might someday use it and contribute to their coffers. It probably costs them $5 of CSR time (pay, overhead and benefits) to credit my bill for $0.60.

I do it every month and make sure I engage the CSR on the phone for as long as possible. I know -- I'm bad.
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My Pioneers accept USB keyboards, like your Sony, but it turned out not to be as useful as I expected: I never have a keyboard handy when I need one and the cords are never long enough. Unless I have a large number of recordings to title at once, I find the on-screen keyboard quicker- and its always there!

When I first bought my deck I didn't know about the USB keyboard input feature as it's not documented in the manual. I didn't really like using the on-screen keyboard and when I read about the USB KB feature on the forum, I tried it right away and never looked back. It takes me about half a minute to plug in the KB, label a title and label a disc. Yep, I will plug in the KB even if I have just one title to HS-dub to disc.
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Questions;

1. I picked up a "A" version and when I did my first multi-title 'burn', during the 'add titles' stage, after I choose the first title, I get a message to confirm the add by hitting the D-dub button before it would return me to the HDD title list screen. Is this something new with the 'A' versions and can the confirmation step be eliminated??

2. Regarding playback problems on other DVD decks, I tried T-Y and RiData discs (both 8x -R's per recomendations) and the problem is still there. On both the Oppo 970 and two different drives in my main PC using Blaze DVD software. Slightly different results, studdering video on the Oppo and faster playback (1.5x normal speed) on the PC. Also, that time slider doesn't respond. I can't advance the playback by dragging the slider. Only the FF advances playback. Would real time record make any difference?
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After using my 2160A strictly for time-shifting for the past several weeks, I decided I ought to learn how to dub a recorded program to DVD. Better to make my mistakes with something I don't really need to keep. I found out two things, which I already sort of knew: (1) the Memorex DVDs I have for use with my company laptop are junk, and (2) the fix for the finalize bug really works. I burned a 1.5 hour show from PBS onto a Sony DVD, finalized it, and then played it in the built-in dvd player on my tv. So now I'm ready, if somebody will broadcast something I want to see more than once.
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Bruce, FWIW, I had something I'd used High Speed Dubbing to transfer from hard drive to DVD show a stutter/unstable picture for about 1/2 hour of the DVD recording. I thought perhaps it was just a bad DVD and high speed recorded it again -- same thing at exactly the same section so, not the DVD's fault at all. Did a real time dub -- got a good DVD -- no problems.

I use real time dubbing more than many do, I think -- the relocation of the editing points with high speed dub really annoys me, so unless something is largely unedited I do a real time dub, but if I'd wanted to pursue a high speed dub in the situation above, I'd have probably tried deleting all chapter marks to see if they played a role.

I use ten minute auto-chapter (plus editing marks) so the problem was over a long enough section that I'm sure it included a number of chapter marks, but still . . . I'd suspect that they might have been involved.
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JLJ_; None of these have any specific problem areas. It is strictly a hit or miss situation. Sometimes I can play a disc and it is fine, but usually it isn't and I have to stop the playback and resume (sometimes more than once) to get the video to 'lock up' (if that is the correct term).

I tried a couple of these discs on my 2nd PC (same MB and O/S), but using 'Media Player Classic' instead of a older copy of 'Blaze DVD' and the problem is almost unnoticeable. If I look closely, I can see some slight 'hiccups', but that seems to be it.
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Just for the sake of context, re videobruce's issues playing back some Mag H2160-created DVDs on his Oppo and PCs:, it should be noted/remembered this issue is more common than people realize, across many brands of DVD recorder- not just the Magnavox or Funai-based units.

Up until recently, and even now and then with current models, there were a startling number of reports that the super-popular Panasonics created goofball DVDs that didn't play nice outside the recorder, primarily showing problems with sound losing sync. The old, advanced Toshiba XS series, which has a cult following here to rival Jim Jones, is notorious for authoring DVDs that appear as defective or blank when played outside the recorder. Another cult favorite, the original JVC models with the LSI encoder, also authors somewhat off-spec discs that can be taken as defective or blank: dedicated players don't register a DVD is loaded, and PC software used to make backups will either report the JVC VOB structure as "defective" and try to repair it, or fail 90% thru a backup attempt. I have owned practically every Pioneer DVD/HDD machine since the first, and while they've generally burned widely-compatible DVDs, occasionally I find they skip or more likely freeze-reset when played in Phillips or Toshiba DVD players (which normally will play absolutely anything you put in them.) Ditto the older, highly prized Sony recorders. Some models make somewhat more compatible DVDs using "real time", others are better with HS lossless dubs: its all random.

Burned DVDs are a technological kludge, a remarkably effective kludge usually, but subject to inconsistencies. The two consistent factors I've seen over the years are that 8x media yields better compatibility than 16x in most recorders (and some PCs depending on the burner+software installed), and "problem" burned discs will almost always play just fine in the junkiest, cheapest $29 drug store brand DVD players like Coby. Its worth keeping a "crap" player around for such emergencies. The really weird thing is, while these cheapo players have no trouble with iffy burned discs, they often balk at commercially pressed discs, particularly TV show season sets. Go figure.
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Was it you that mentioned some type of 'sync' related problem regarding the Oppo 970?? I haven't found any reference to that.
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No, that was mentioned by an Oppo owner in one of the previous posts: I've never had the chance to test an Oppo. Blew too much money on the original Sony DVP-S7000 back in the day- I'm still paying it off! Best PQ of any DVD player I've ever used, amazing for a first-generation product, but it pre-dates the DVD-R spec and won't play a lot of current hacked-up-with-weird-new-copy-protection releases. Its slowly working its way down to being just my luxurious (and s-l-o-w to load) CD audio player.
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Was it you that mentioned some type of 'sync' related problem regarding the Oppo 970?? I haven't found any reference to that.

Actually, I've been rather surprised to recently see you reappear with a 2160 after all the very strong crtiticism you've had on this DVDR here and on videohelp.com? I thought you had returned your unit.

Here's some history on the DVD playback problem for others who may want to help.

A Mar 2009 post on the "Oppo connection." Maybe you saw this too? In this post, there's an Oppo CSR statement acknowledging playback problems.

Your July 2009 series of 4 posts on videohelp.com with a bash-mate.

11/2/09 Ti-triodes originally telling you it's an Oppo problem.

11/3/09 Your response to ti-triodes.

Yesterday, 11/8/09 on videohelp.com, a restatement of your problem without mentioning the Oppo advice you've been getting and its possible connection to the problem.

Today, in the Sticky thread, it appears you're now asking about possibly replacing your DVD drive?

What's up, doc?

UPDATE: After all the advice and counsel here, on 11/12/09, Videobruce went to videohelp.com, got the same advice and counsel there, but finally revealed he's having none of that... it's the "POS" recorder, as he posted here. That's back to where he started in his first post on this "POS" DVDR (the POS analog tuner then) and he hasn't let up since.
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I've been rather surprised to recently see you reappear with a 2160 after all the very strong crtiticism you've had on this DVDR here and on videohelp.com?

The main issues were with the analog tuner which I have now confirmed was with only one deck (another deck did not have the problem) and the finicky video AGC that causes flashes during bright scenes (which is mostly solved by a TBC).

I didn't see nottensts' post 10 months ago. Thanks for finding that.
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without mentioning the Oppo advice you've been getting

What advice other than trying different media which I did mention and a software program that would require another transfer of material and a re-burn? All of that defeats the purpose of getting the 2160 in the first place.

Nothing was mentioned about replacing the drive (yet), just asking what it is. I would have my doubts if it could be done easily anyway.
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