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Are there any good upscaling DVD player/HDD recorders? Also, help with setup.

post #1 of 6
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I currently have an RCA DRC8030N. I love this thing. It works great as a DVD player and records a ton of shows with the 80GB HDD. However, it doesn't have HDMI and I just got a new HDTV.

First, I am wondering how (or if) I can set this up with an HDTV cable box. RIght now I have the cable running into the recorder and then out from the recorder to my tv. I also have standard composite jacks running from the recorder to the tv. I guess it needs that to play DVDs. Anyway, can I still do a similar set up but also through an HDTV cable box? I know I can still run the coax from the recorder to the box and then to the tv. But if I do that, will I lose any quality? Will I still be able to watch the HD channels? I know the RCA isn't digital but since it's just a cable signal, I don't know if it will filter out the HD channels or not. Also, could I use it to record the HD channels since I have the box or will that not work?

Sorry to throw that in. But if it works, then I'll probably just stick with what I have for now. However, I would love to get an upscaling DVD player with HDD recorder. The tv I have is only 720p but I'd still like to have upscaling. I know my XBOX 360 will upscale with an HDMI cable but I don't like using it as a DVD player just because I watch a lot of DVDs in one sitting and don't want to burn it out. And I don't think my RCA recorder can upscale even though it has compnent outs.

Anyway, are there any current DVD player/recorders with HDD that can work with an HDMI cable box? If not, I'll just look at a random upscaling DVD player and get a DVR from my cable. But still, if I can combine them I'm all for it. Thanks. Sorry to being so long-winded.
post #2 of 6
One 160GB HDD recorder that can upscale via HDMI, can pass HDTV thru its coax passthru, and can tune any digital/HD channels in-the-clear if it's 1st on the coax is the Philips DVDR3576H/37.

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Originally Posted by djtwyce View Post

Anyway, are there any current DVD player/recorders with HDD that can work with an HDMI cable box? If not, I'll just look at a random upscaling DVD player and get a DVR from my cable. But still, if I can combine them I'm all for it.

The upscaling in the Philips and other DVD recorders is generally not as good as the ones built into most TV's.

Buy an Oppo 981 DVD player for fantastic performance at a great price instead.
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Wow, that's a great thread. It has a ton of info. I did find the '6' one in stock for about $300, which isn't bad. I'm going to have to see how cost-effective that is versus the monthly cost of a DVR through my provider and an upconverting DVD player.

The only thing I'm unsure of is it sounds like this recorder will record the HD content in 480p and then upconvert it to 720p or 1080p. It says that's so you can record more content but is the picture quality still good?

Also, if I am looking for other brands, what am I looking for? I figure it needs HDMI but does it need to say ATSC tuner or HDTV tuner? I'm new to the hd scene so the different acronyms tend to confuse me.

EDIT: Thanks Rammitinski. I must have not refreshed and missed your post. I have to call my cable provider to see how much they will charge for the DVR service. So far it seems like they are double-billing me for everything so I have to get that straight first. If it's cheap, then that will be the way to go. But I think if I do end up wanting an upscaling DVD player that I will need to make a separate thread on the DVD player board. But I will also do some research on the player you just listed. I have to admit, I've never heard of Oppo.
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Originally Posted by djtwyce View Post

Wow, that's a great thread. It has a ton of info. I did find the '6' one in stock for about $300, which isn't bad. I'm going to have to see how cost-effective that is versus the monthly cost of a DVR through my provider and an upconverting DVD player.

The only thing I'm unsure of is it sounds like this recorder will record the HD content in 480p and then upconvert it to 720p or 1080p. It says that's so you can record more content but is the picture quality still good?

Also, if I am looking for other brands, what am I looking for? I figure it needs HDMI but does it need to say ATSC tuner or HDTV tuner? I'm new to the hd scene so the different acronyms tend to confuse me.

All SDTV DVD recorders record in 480i, per the DVD standard.

Most, if not all, digital channels the 3576 can tune will produce an outstanding recorded pic AS LONG AS THE SOURCE IS GOOD... everything quality-wise can be related to the source. See my help file on "PQ." Analog channels can be a very mixed bag re: quality. Since everything going thru a SDTV tuner or line input has to be downrezzed to SDTV 480i, the quality can't be the same as a pure HDTV pic. The 3576 does pass pure HDTV thru its coax passthru, but not thru its tuner or line inputs.

Look for ATSC tuner for OTA antenna reception and QAM for digital cable channels... some DVDRs won't list QAM tuners but usually have one.
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Cool, that makes a lot of sense. It looks like the DVR would cost an additional $150 per year, since I'd have to get the service, and an upscaling DVD player (for a basic one) costs between $50-$100. So the price ends up being a bit less to go for the DVR and DVD player but I'm still going to take a look at more specifics and decide what I want to do. Thanks again for the info.

EDIT: Oh, and just to make sure I understood what you said, my current recorder will not allow me to watch HD channels on my tv, correct? So if I run a coax into my recorder and then to the HD receiver and then to my tv, I will only get the standard channels and nothing digital or HD, right?
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