Hauppauge HDPVR-1212 Owner's Thread - Page 51

Looks like I was mislead when it came to that line "Burn your recorded video to Blu-ray" because I tried doing that, I popped in a BD-RE disc, and when I clicked burn, it spit the BD-RE back out and told me to put in a DVD, and I set it to burn AVCHD video. Boy, what a ripoff, it promised it would burn to Blu, and all the sudden, it seems only burn to DVD...disappointing. Kind of a waste of owning a Blu-ray burner drive if ArcSoft won't even let you burn to the format.

You weren't mislead, you misread the product literature.

Like what DJWikiera said you miss read the product info

The .TS .MP4 and .M2TS files are AVCHD compatible, and can be used to burn Blu-ray compatible disk recordings.
These files can be burned onto a standard DVD+R or DVD+RW disk for playback in a Blu-ray disk player using the included Arcsoft TME Disk Create application.
Approximately 2 hours of HD TV recorded at 5Mbits/sec can be put onto a standard DVD+R or DVD+RW disk.
Authoring to Blu-ray Disc is not an option but if want to do Blu-ray Disc Authoring use the software that come with your drive hopely it Compatible with HD-PVR H.264 files.

Ahh...whew. Guess I'm lucky I got the retail package of the LG BD-RE drive, as opposed to an OEM version, or I'd be screwed a thousand times over. Great. I'll look through the Blu-ray Software Suite that LG included, which is most likely PowerDVD Blu/HD, and lightscribe software, and maybe some inferior burning software, but I'm confident they have a Blu-ray compatible burning device for video, I'll search through all that.

EDIT: Ahh, here we go...we DO have PowerProducer that utilizes Blu-ray and AVCHD recording support, good...hopefully it'll accept the format. Most likely I may have to record to MP4 for best compatibility, not too sure, tho.
Ah well, recording Stargate Universe now on M2TS/PS3 mode, hopefully PowerProducer can use that format. Well, here goes, will do a burn in another hour, supposedly.

You can use ArcSoft's TotalMediaStudio, just load your files until you get 23GB (disregard the red sizing bar), tell TMS to create a folder on your HDD, then use Imgburn to write the BDMV folder to BD-R.

Intersesting that you can burn to BD-R. How do you tell TMS to create a folder on your HD? Is it just a matter of taking all the files in the folder you designate as a destination drive in TME, and just enter all the files in that folder when you burn? Or just click on the this folder as an entity? Thanks.

1.) Load the videos in your choice of order (the streams will play in this order).
2.) Click the "PREVIEW/PRODUCE" tab at the top.
3.) Click "BURN".
4.) A "SAVE THE CURRENT PROJECT" dialog box comes up (yes or no).
5.) Then a "WRITE DISC" dialog box will come up with a "WRITE TO" drop-down (it will probably show your DVD writer).
6.) Select "HARD DRIVE" and choose a target directory.
7.) Give the output a name.
8.) Click "OK".
9.) Burn the created BDMV folder to disc.

edit:
Some players won't play AVCHD on BD-R without the full BD folder structure (my S350 plays the folders straight from TMS, but my BD370 won't).

If yours won't play:
Create a root folder, and within this folder create a CERTIFICATE folder that contains a BACKUP folder. Place your BDMV folder alongside the CERTIFICATE folder.
Create a CERTIFICATE folder that contains a BACKUP folder and place it alongside the BDMV folder within the titled root folder.
Inside the BDMV folder, create an AUXDATA, BDJO, JAR and META folders (all of these additional folders in BDMV are empty).

Even though my Sony plays them without modification, I still do it for better player compatibility.

Thanks to all who responded to my post. After trying a number of suggestions with no success, I decided to exchange it for another unit. The new unit worked fine the first time with the same setup.

Now I have a new question. Is it possible to run the USB output of the 1212 to something else other than my PC for direct capture and storage, such as a stand alone blu-ray burner or blu-ray rom drive?

I have an old PC and graphics card, so I was searching for other options for archiving HD convent from my satellite DVR other than buying a new PC, which I intend to do eventually, just not right now if I can avoid it.

No, you do need a PC.

That is part ture a standalone could be build to make use of the HD-PVR but the key things that are need Drivers and Direct Capture App.
For now there is no device that can do that it just a matter of Combination VCR/DVR functions and DVD/Bluray burning functions.

So, why is it "part true" ? It's 100% true. You can't use the 1212 without a PC, period.

Your Wrong
Have you even ever hear of Standalone DVD recorders that are like a VCR?, my guest that you haven't.
A stand-alone DVD recorders is to simplify the DVD/Bluray authoring process as much as possible and make it operating like an old VCR. Feed the box a video stream, push the Record button, and then hit STOP when you're done and voila! Recoder the Disc you have a playable DVD/Bluray! Just like it works with a VCR, right?.
As I said it need drivers to be built in to the device so the that HD-PVR will work.
Keep in mind that about 75% of the standalone device are base on linux.

Now as for "part true" for now there nothing out there to do this but it can be done that why I said it only part true.

Thanks Slimoli and SHS. I was under the impression that the USB out of the 1212 was just a conversion of the component input, but I see now that it was made to be fed into a PC as you said.

Maybe I'm in the minority on this, but why doesn't somebody make a unit that does exactly what I thought the 1212 did? Why feed the output to a PC? Just give me the ability to feed the output directly to a blu-ray burner or rom drive?

I understand having an option to capture on the PC, but wouldn't it be simpler without the PC?

They do make something simple like that. If you want to record the content from your sat or cable box just get the DVR unit that is supplied by your provider. If you want that material on BluRay, just buy the original disk. The whole point of going to digital signal technology is to control what can and can not be copied. HDPVR takes advantage of the analog hole while the hole is still open. As soon as that hole is closed and we go to an all digital media you'll likely be either buying or borrowing all of your content from web based sources or downloading from content owners directly

If there is nothing out there, I am 100% right and you are wrong. The OP is not asking if something can be built, obviously. You are just making the OP confused.

I received my HD PVR last week from NewEgg, and in general, I am quite pleased with the results. I'm trying to capture all the stuff I've accumulated on my Cox Scientific Atlanta 8300HD DVR before I cancel my cable subscription and move out of my apartment next week.

My main complaint with the HD PVR is the black lines of pixels on the top and right side that are captured along with the video. According to my quick calculations using a screenshot (low res version attached below) and Photoshop, there are 13 lines of black pixels at the top, and 1-3 black lines on the right (really it's a gradient on the right, so that the furthest right line is completely black, the next one is a little brighter, the next one a little brighter, then the next is finally as bright as the rest of the image; zoom in on the attached screenshot to see what I mean). The Arcsoft Capture Module software that the HD PVR comes has no way to crop the video as it is being captured. As far as I can tell, I haven't seen anyone on this thread mention a way to crop the video as it is being captured, as opposed to doing it after the fact in video editing software. I've read of some others on here using other software to capture, does any of that other software allow you to crop the video as it is being captured? Any other solutions that people have found?

Also, I'd like to see what software some of the experts on here use to quickly and easily edit out commercials (and crop) the video files the HD PVR produces. I tried using Corel VideoStudio to edit, and while it does allow me to frame-accurately edit the commercials out, it does this at the expense of being forced to re-encode. Also, the resulting quality is noticeably worse than both the original broadcast played off my cable box, and the file that the HD PVR produces. So I guess the only way to keep the same quality from the original file would be to use something like TS Cutter to keep from having to re-encode. I'm pleased with the cutting ability of TS Cutter, but what about cropping the black lines of pixels that are being captured as well? Is there any software out there that will allow me to quickly and easily crop the black lines and also edit out commercials? Is it possible to do this without having to re-encode?

Thanks to any that can help.

Great thread guys!!!

I got a little dizzy after reading through 15 pages loaded with tons of information... So hopefully I am asking an informed question here regarding hardware needs:

For the system I plan to connect to the 1212, I only want to capture the file output (no playback). In which case, if I were to use something like RCTVCAP would a standard laptop be capable of the capture?

Following successful file grab, I will transfer to another, more robust system for editing/burning. Will a laptop work for the file grab?

Thanks!!!

Has anyone used this with Windows 7 64bit? I've bought a computer with windows 7 Home premium and am working to get that computer stable and running. Didn't know if I had to stich with 32bit or if 64bit would work fine with this software.

Yes, any computer will work because all the hard work is being done by the HDPVR. It has an onboard h264 encoder chip that does on the fly encoding from the analog component input. The computer get an already encoded digital stream that the software wraps in a container (TS, MP4) and writes to the hard drive. Very little cpu is being used during the capturing process. Playback is another story especially if your video card does not do any hardware acceleration.


I use it on window7 64-bit and have not had any issues.

Thanks Zago.

InsGadget as for the black line problem your see you maybe able to fix that just by gettimg newer model cable box but sometime you can not fix that resolutions problem becuases it maybe coming from source.
As for Corel VideoStudio to bad it dosen't support ATI Stream or nVidia Cuda that would help speed things up.

i just bought some Monster Component Cables and the video quality of my recordings is much better

Better how?

What cables were you using before?

sharper picture, deeper blacks, colors.... was using the default cables that came with the hdpvr

horsepoopy...

Really not called for Jim. If georgex7 see's a difference in his picture thats great for him, you certainly didn't see the outcome. We don't need another debate started about cables again. Shrug it off, everyone see's things differently.

Warning - Newbie question alert!!!

I downloaded some sample video clips from the Arogan blog to demo. The clips are in TS format. How do I play these?

MPC complains that it needs Pins, but doesn't say what they are.
My version of PowerDVD (v7 from my LG player) doesn't even recognize the files.
Can I use Windows Media Center in Vista?

Yes, that's what I use. You can also use the player that comes included with the 1212.

I think almost all AVS readers would be at minimum highly sceptical .... but my "blue" cable went bad. So the cable supplied with the 1212 could actually be pretty marginal in some cases. If 1212 owners are troubleshooting basic connectivity (like poor/no passthrough), I would suggest swapping out the 1212-supplied cable first. In my case, I replaced it with a set of very cheap short "audio" cables, and it looks fine.

Blasphemy! Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria! Don't you know that if you use the wrong color RCA jacket the signal will be corrupted?! Red and white audio cords aren't the correct 75 ohm impedance, only the yellow and component R,G,B ones are.

Seriously though, the phono jacks on the HDPVR1212 are flimsily soldered directly to the circuit board so I shun the use of any beefy wires for fear of breaking the product!