Hauppauge HDPVR-1212 Owner's Thread - Page 99

Are you talking about the power cable or an internal pwr supply?

Be careful about using a 2.0A supply. You really might want to find something that allows for more draw, otherwise you might really end up with a dead HDPVR this time.

Digging around I found a 5.0V/2.5A ... I think I'm gonna try and live with that one, no more than I record with it, I hardly ever push it. Judging by the heat generation, the only time the unit pushes much is during recording. I'll probably run one down(5V/3A) in the meantime. Still you are right, I should find a higher Watt PS.

I have a Hauppauge HDPVR-1212 on its way ($158)....

After kicking this purchase around for years , I decided after reading Wajo's http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1390236 Thread , it got me to thinking about life after when/if my Philips 3575 bites the dust.

I mainly DVR (Dish Network) movies from TCM and back-up to DVD, I was looking to upgrade the quality of those recording's , I realize TCM-HD a lot of content isn't HD, but never the less wanting a improvement over 480 resolution.

I've read over half of this thread for tips....recommendations ...etc.

For those who have been using the Hauppauge for a while, is there any do's and don't I should be aware before I go down the wrong path.

I've bookmarked some of the software / hardware recommendation's I've read, so thanks everyone.

My current method of operation was

• DVR to Dish Networks 722k
• "Capture" from Dish DVR to Philips 3575
• Edit out unwanted stuff (Beginnings - Ends - sometimes commericials)
• Transfer edited material to DVD
• Make up covers - Make my own labels to print on top of disk (TY Inkjet disks - Epson Artisan 710)
• Enjoy !!!

Thanks for reading & any help provided

Steve

If you're willing to open up the Dish 722 you can copy the actual files from the DVR's HDD using a special app. Apart from no quality loss, the advantage is copying a 2 hour movie from the drive in a few minutes instead of recording it over 2 hours. PM if you want more info.

Any way to to this with dtv yet?

Nope, they locked it down good.

I have been experimenting with my Haupauge since I received it a few weeks ago, and am really pleased with the quality of the recordings. I have been playing the TS files on my Dune media player, and do not notice any visible artifacts on my 63" plasma.

Now I am attempting to burn these recordings to BD-R using multiAVCHD for authoring, and for some reasons this software seems unable to properly guess the duration of the TS clips. For example, it thinks a one hour program is an 8 minute clip. I noticed I can change manually various parameters including the duration with "alter detected properties", but this could be tedious. I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong or if some of you have noticed this issue and found a solution. Any help would be greatly appreciated

Do you edit your captured files before importing into MultiAVCHD?
If you don't remove commercials in front, during, and at the end of the main program it can mess up time code and audio tracks.
I never had this problem with MultiAVCHD, but I edit every file with VideoReDo TVSuite V4/H.264.

No, I did no editing, I dropped the original recording directly into multiAVCHD. However, I found a simple solution to my problem: I ran the TS clip in TSmuxer with no transcoding, it was fairly quick. Now multiAVCHD recognizes the correct duration of the recording, and I also use it to generate automatic chapters. The menus it creates are sweet looking

You use the avchd output in tsmuxer?
WHat part of that do you import into multiavchd?

Actually I bring the output from TSmuxer into multiAVCHD. I remux the original recording TS file, then import the resulting TS into multiAVCHD. I am not sure why it works (or even why multiAVCHD could not guess the proper length of the original TS in the first place), but it appears that TSmuxer generates a more "acceptable" file, without re-encoding. The remuxed clip looks exactly the same as the original one, no visible degradation or sync issue. I found that tip in the multiAVCHD thread on doom9.org, it appears that others were experiencing the same issue.

oh so your 'auto chaptering' is happening using multi not tsmuxer...
it's auto 12 equally spaced chaptering. why dont they have an option for every 5min....

That's correct, I used the 12 auto chapters in multiAVCHD. It appears that you can also set a different number of equally spaced chapters in the "properties" tab of each of your clips, I guess you could calculate how many you need based on the duration of your recording so that each chapter would be 5 min. long.

Hi all,

I've just bought a second hand HD PVR for use with an STB - but upon testing the unit I'm seeing 'interference' when previewing the video..
I've tried two video sources (STB and Xbox 360) and swapped out the USB cable and confirmed the both work fine directly to my TV's component input.
I've also tried the HDPVR on two different PC's (one windows one linux, and tried 3 different driver versions.)

I see horizontal flickering and 'bleeding' (seen in the image below - its much more noticable in real life)

Screenshot here (I can't post links yet!); img534.imageshack.us/img534/8656/hdpvr.jpg

Does anyone have any suggestions ?

I've already got a new shorter component cable on order.. (using the standard hauppauge ones atm - but it works fine to the TV)

Capture TS files and author with tsmuxer or multiavchd.

I have resolved most of my earlier mentioned problems using the HDPVR-1212, but still have an ongoing audio-video sync problem and occasional hard fault lockups.

I'm capturing from a SA 4250HDC set-top box using component video and optical audio connections, and creating .TS container files. These play in perfect lipsync in Windows Media on the PC, and on a venerable Popcorn Hour A-100. When I play them on my D-Link Boxee Box, the audio always leads the video by a LOT, at least a full second, and occasionally as much as 3.7 seconds! Boxee Box has an audio offset control in its tools menu, so these files can be made to play in lipsync after a little trial and error. It also remembers the offset so the file will still be in sync on subsequent plays, but it is an annoying thing to have to "tweak" each file before the first play.

It looks kinda like a Boxee Box issue, however ANY other file, in any container or format, plays fine with zero audio offset on the Boxee Box. The only ones with issues are from the 1212. It's almost as if there is some odd aspect of the header or format in PVR-1212 TS files that Boxee can't deal with correctly. I'm open to ideas on how to further troubleshoot this problem.

Also, about every third time the 1212 makes an unattended overnight recording using Titan TV and WIN-TV Scheduler, the capture module freezes at the end of the recording. The file gets completed as scheduled and closed, and it plays fine, but the Capture Module is "stuck" open with the STOP light still green. It can't be closed normally OR even forced closed in Task Manager; the only way I've found to clear it is reboot the PC. (It's a Dell 8300 running Win 7 Home Premium.) I often reboot the PC in the morning anyway, however the Capture Module being open all night keeps the PC from going to sleep, and no properly behaving Windows app should ever need such drastic maneuvers to be closed. Anyone seen this behavior and have ideas as to why it's happening?

Otherwise I'm very happy with the 1212 paired with the HD STB as a poor man's/videophile's large-capacity DVR. It has let me archive some favorite shows that have only aired once, and I can keep them on the HD (or burn off to disc) for as long as I want. This weekend it will let me capture all 14 hours of the BBCAmericaHD Battlestar Galactica finale without competing with my wife's recordings and hogging the limited disc space in TWC DVR in the living room. Having several TB of room to record to makes the 160GB in the DVR look downright puny.

I get the same issue when manually dubbing shows and videotapes. Not certain of the cause but I agree that the only cure is a reboot.

One thing I have found is that the resulting file, while complete, has problems that prevent my editing or joining it in VideoRedo TVSuite. I have to run QuickStream Fix first. Then I can edit and/or join.

Well as new user .....I had read this comment by V7Goose, and thought that was in 2011 and they surely fixed this quirk. I don't think we are they only one's archiving movies over 100 mins.

I just encountered this while making a AVCHD disk ..The Glass Bottom Boat...everything seemed fine in the editing phase. Burnt the disk , still OK but playing the disk even when I know I had created chapter marks past 1:40, its choked, when playing to that time mark. I had already done another disk...The Music Never Stopped....same problem. When I create a less than 100 min movie, i.e....The Night of The Hunter...everything is fine.... I just checked the output file, didn't try the disk burning phase yet, On The Night of The Hunter. When I looked at the file output on the first two movies they choked at about the same length..100 mins. Didn't think to check them first..

As to the main use of these products will be archiving movies, is there something I need to do to rectify this quirk?

I've considered numerous other programs (VideoReDo, tsmuxer, and multiavchd) but wanted to give TME a chance, starting to get the hang of editing.

While I'm finding my way around this product, I have other questions.

1. When creating a DVD, using default settings. Am I limited to just 720x480 resolution ?
2. Also is there a way to create Chapter menu's in AVCHD. I can only create them when creating a DVD

I'll have others, but that's all I can remember now. I guess I will have to write them done next time...

Steve

After owning my 1212 for nearly 2-1/2 years to record movies from my FIOS STB (w/ the ultimate goal of burning the HD movies onto disks I can play in my Blu-Ray players), I've finally gotten the hang of the end-to-end process:

1) Record the movie on my HD-DVR STB
2) Capture to the 1212 @ 720p using a bit rate that gives me a final .TS file size ~4.2GB.
3) Edit out commercials / trim intros etc. using Smart Cutter
4) Drop the file into multiAVCHD, set to auto-chapter (I don't bother creating menus, I just want to insert disk and play the movie)
5) Output to a Blu-Ray (BDMV) format
6) Burn the BDMV folder to a DVD5 disk using ImgBurn

DONE! Final product plays on my Blu-Ray players w/ DD5.1 surround. I no longer need to rely on my WD-HDTV media player that converts the DD5.1 track to 2.0. No more AVCHD fussing or 1080p format in my LG BDP670 issues.

If I feel real ambitious, I'll mess around w/ creating menus in multiAVCHD. But I try to avoid investing much screen/mouse time w/ this process.

Glad you got it working. The only thing I would offer is that if you want to know exactly where your chapter marks are gonna be-use tsmuxer. Auto chaptering every 5min unless you tell it otherwise. (multiavchd splits the content into 12 equal parts)

"For those who have been using the Hauppauge for a while, is there any do's and don't I should be aware before I go down the wrong path."

Never record in the mp4 container, video and audio will be out of sync with the video ahead of the audio.

I've never had a problem with AVCHD, but I create the disc from a HD later - I seldom make a disc though so maybe it is just luck that I haven't had a problem with over 100 minutes (????). I mostly just play from the hd on my bluray player - works perfectly

I like the work flow layout . I'm still trying to find the sweet - spot for my transfers. I've also kinda settled for capturing @ 720. I use to transfer recordings from Dish 722k to Philips 3575 to single layer disc (usually under 2 Hours). Now I'm testing and testing and testing trying to find what I need with the Hauppauge to create desired results.

I think I need to create different "profiles" depending on what I what....Movies>>this profile....Hockey Games>>>this profile...etc. I have a feeling I'm going to invest in more Dual-Layer disc's, cause my goal was to increase overall picture quality to disc...right !!!

nikknightt posted a nice recap in Jan 12' on the selection between 720p & 1080i.
That's what I'm looking for to guide me to picking the right parameter's, depending on movie length's. I had a quick work-flow with my Philips 3575, which now I'm back to step 1 in the learning of the Hauppauge.

If anybody else has their workflow please share with us newbie's

Steve

Thanks for your help....I've always used the .ts capture setting, not sure if I would need to capture in the other 2 settings ???

I'm amazed that no one else has had the 100 minute issue That's why I brought it up, thinking I was doing something wrong while creating a AVCHD movie disc over 100 minutes. I had 2 movies that I did that choked at 1:40 mark. Maybe others are just capturing in TME2 then using other programs to finish up the job ???

V7Goose talked about this Issue/Bug in 2011 on this Forum
and on the ArcSoft Forum here http://www.arcsoft.com/en/forum/foru...onger-than-140 and http://www.arcsoft.com/forum/forum_p...ied-with-hdpvr

Thanks for your input !!!
Steve

I've only burnt a handful of discs, both single and dual layer - and I don't think I've ever watched any.
With the unreliability and costs of dual layer discs, I actually bought a very reasonable external usb 3.0 bluray burner - of which I still haven't used yet LOL.

Like I said, I mainly just write to a NTFS formatted hard drive and currently at a setting of constant and 12.0 - results in fairly large files BUT not really any visible quality loss.
I used to use variable and a rate around 10.5 - 11.5 but I noticed on a few specific films a blockiness in darker/gray areas (usually not important parts of the picture but still).
There is none of this using a constant setting, dropping down to 9.8 or so I doubt I would notice much quality loss but hard drives are plentiful and I don't archive that much.

I use a HD recorder to record my OTA shows and then it is usually just a watch and erase thing.

I might try doing a disc and seeing what happens this weekend.

what kind of HD recorder? You mean a dvr?

Sort of like a DVR, works more like a VCR though
I have a few Sonicview HD8000's that I use for OTA recording. It records to a USB hard drive.

looks pretty kool. just looked it up and checked the specs..

http://www.amazon.com/Sonicview-Sv-h.../dp/B000SHMKNU

The reviews on Amazon are pretty funny, mostly people who know absolutely nothing about the unit. There were a few power supply capacitor failures - easy fix though.
It is not a perfect unit, but overall works good enough for me. Recording are very high picture quality - I cannot tell any difference between the recording and live on a 65" Mitsubishi 65736 tv.

I also have a nfusion Hd and an ebox HD the I have used for OTA recording. The nfusion I cannot recommend though as the PVR function isn't the greatest - it requires a very fast external hard drive to record properly and even then it struggle just a bit on really high quality material (usually PBS nature shows).
The ebox HD works well, but my unit has a very limited range remote (just a few feet), I probably should have returned it to find out if it was just a unit issue or product issue.

Hi, I just got a PVR-1212, I'm getting started trying to capture TV shows from my comcast box and have a few questions that I'm hoping someone can help with...

1. Is a laptop with a Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5ghz cpu, 4gig ram, Win7 Ultimate (32bit), and WD black (7200rpm) 320gig hard drive fast enough to capture?

2. Is the bundled TotalMedia Extreme 2 (v2.0.45.11) the best to capture with? and is the version I have the latest? (i've seen posts that said 2.4 or 2.5 in this thead, but when I try to update, it appears nothing newer is available).

3. If there is anything better to capture with for my purpose, what do you suggest, and why?

My goal... capture the 1080i programs at the best quality possible, and ultimately play them back via network with my LG BD390 and BD570 bluray players (they play .m2ts, .mkv, .mp4 and divx). I've used BD-Rebuilder to re-encode many bluray discs to MKV files that are x.264 videos with bit rates around 9-10Kbps that look great playing this way, and I'm hoping that I can get similar quality with these captured recordings. And I would like to keep the 5 channel audio on those programs that have it.

Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome and appreciated.