Hauppauge HDPVR-1212 Owner's Thread - Page 11

For some reason, playing back in TME/using the TME audio driver, it only shows 2ch. I've played it back in VLC Player and Media Player Classic(using CoreAVC Pro decoder) and they both see 5.1 audio. Some other posters on the other thread have reported success in playing it on the PS3, all 6 channels work.

I use MediaInfo, works very well for determining what audio and video is present in just about any container, MKV,AVI, TS etc.

Thanks kemac. Mediainfo works well. My recording from my Directv HR20 shows 2 channel AC-3, but it was a previously recorded program. I'll try with a live program to see if it captures the 5.1.

Another note, I'm pretty sure MediaInfo does it as do most programs, if you start the capture/recording in 2.0 it will report 2.0. I capped Almost Famous the other night, and started it a couple of minutes early and everything reported it as DD 2.0, but as soon as the movie started it shifted to DD 5.1, I used PowerDVD and it reports what the Audio is, and you could see if change from 2.0 to 5.1 just as the movie started.

What program are people using to burn these 5.1 Dolby Digital recordings to DVD in AVCHD (Bluray compatible) form? Does it take up much more space than 2 channel?

Thank you! I just had one of those "Duh!" moments after reading your comment! I'd been trying to figure out why my recording of Dexter persisted as showing up in MediaInfo, plus my editing program (Ulead Videostudio), as 2.0 when I KNEW it was 5.1! Of course, the brief Showtime intro before the show starts was 2.0, so that was all the software was seeing and reporting. While playing in Zoomplayer, it definitely switches to 5.1 when it should. I'm in the process of using H264-Cutter to trim off that offending intro,and then I'll see what happens.

Yep Rebkill that's exactly it. The short intro portion I recorded is 2 channel. I recorded a portion from within the main movie, and it shows to be 6 channel. The MediaInfo says first audio, so that's actually what happening. Thanks for the help

Confirmed that the 5.1 beta driver works SWIMMINGLY with Ulead Videostudio. Just record the TS with Arcsoft. The resultant TS file opens directly in PowerDVD Ultra, where you can confirm that it is either 2.0 or 5.1 DD, and it also opens in Videostudio with audio and video, which allows you to author the AVCHD disc.

As others have pointed out, the only annoyance is the video delay that occurs whenever you fast forward or rewind your video source to commercial skip between captures. This problem is easily avoided by simply hooking a television monitor directly to the video source. Since my DirecTV DVR has both the component output, which I have hooked up to the 1212 and the HDMI which is hooked up to my audio receiver, I simply switch my TV from HDMI2 (the PC) to HDMI1 (the receiver) whenever I need to seek.

seems like the audio takes about 640kbps instead of 384kbps. not a major increase. I haven't burned, but streaming - the files are compatible with PS3 as captured - a major improvement over the previous rev driver.

Thanks, the Tom, that's not too bad at all.

I guess I should have clarified: "What free software are people using to burn AVCHD DVD's?" [yes I'm cheap]

Thanks everyone.

Free software to create a AVCHD disc on DVD playable in a Blu-ray player:

1. Capture using GraphEdit. Or TME. I prefer GraphEdit.

2. Create Blu-ray disc using TsMuxerGUI. It has a create Blu-ray disc option. This program is very fast and sets up the Blu-ray (AVCHD) file structure in about 15 minutes (for a typical DVD9 size capture). You can set up automatic chapter points - say every 10 minutes. There are no options for setting up custom menus. Very simple and fast but it is limited in what it can do.

3. Use ImageBurn to burn the Blu-ray (AVCHD) file structure to DVD. Burn the BDMV and Certificate folders created by TsMuxerGUI to disc.

Reply below from Hauppauge support regarding release notes regarding Beta 5.1 driver

Cannot record output to M2TS format, still only as TS format, although the release notes states the following:

"In addition, this version of HD PVR software supports new features such as: record to M2TS for playback on the Sony PS3"


Thank you for your feedback.
The note about the M2TS format was in the incorrect spot, it should be part of the note below regarding the updated version of the TME application, which will support this.
I will ask our webmaster to fix this.

Regards,

Bill V.
BillV@Hauppauge.com
Technical Support
Hauppauge Computer Works
New York

http://www.hauppauge.com

For more online information please refer to:
http://www.hauppauge.com/site/support/support_faq.html
Please include previous correspondence when replying.

I would like to use a normal P4 type machine to RECORD and use my mac pro to deal with the .TS file or my Vista machine to handle the heavy lifting... Does the Hauppauge 1212 HD-PVR require a great super speed computer to do the actual recording ? I was hoping to just use a cheap PC (P4 1gb ram , large hd) so the device can dump the file to it ... I thought the box has its own encoder but does it use the PC to do anything other than run the pvr software and the hard drive to dump the file? My fast computers are no where near the TV so I just want to use a laptop or small pc to get the video then copy the file over to the big boy machines to convert the .ts file to something I can use... Any hope of this ? I wish the box did all this internally with its own HD and a simple record button.... how many people seriously have quad core kick butt machines with reach of their home theater ?

Thanks

I've got the 5.1 sound working with SPDIF

I'm using MediaPortal and trying to figure out how to map channels for HD PVR in MP.

Good times....

I feel fairly certain you will be able to capture with out much problem, I'd recommend Arogan's capture program though, the one that comes with it, wants to preview the video as it records, and they claim that it won't cause any problem with recording, a lot of people have reported that it does, anything that tries to consume your entire CPU is bound to cause a problem or two.

So, if you stick with a third party solution to record with, I think you should be fine.

The 640kbps was with a different source than my usual one. Now with my cable box as source, the AC3 5.1 audio is taking the same 384kbps that the AAC 2.0 audio did with the previous driver version. So, no difference at all. [And, anticipatory yes, I am absolutely sure that what I have just captured has 5.1.]

Hey Tom, thanks for the info. I dl both programs, and was able to seperate the audio from the video file, but so far unable to use DK to turn it into mp3. Actually I was trying to trim the front and back sides off and really wasn't sure what I was/or how I was doing it.

After using tsMuxeR the file is almost 100 mb for a 90 min. concert and is called "2008_9_22_12_13_4.track_4352track".


Totally different question about any users that are watching their captured .ts files straight off their computer like I am. If I use my PS3 or D* receiver as the source, once my audio receiver(Integra 6.5) detects the appropriate Dolby signal, it automatically switches into the appropriate setting for playback via optical input. With my HTPC, it just shows bitstream. I am wondering if I am lacking software for my soundcard or if I might possibly need a new sound card. Does anyone else watch from their HTPC this way?? And if so, is your receiver switching into the correct audio mode upon the optical input pushing it to do so? I am new to HTPC and not real experienced with it. Any help or recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks.

What file size (per hour of HD recording - top resolution) does the Arogan record in compared with the Hauppauge app?
Has anyone tried using a 2GHz Pentium 4 with 2 GB RAM as a dedicated record only machine (same as rebkell I'd move the files to a bigger machine for editing and watching)

Super will take an ac3 and turn it into whatever you want.

Thanks, looked at Super, will try it out later. Any advice on my soundcard/optical questions would be appreciated.

On another note, I recorded "The Empire Strikes Back" last night from my DVR. The original file size with 2 channel when I recorded it (settings - variable peak/sliders maxed out) was about 4.09 gb. The new recording(same settings) with 5.1 was around 4.45 gb. This was something I was curious about and I guess that gave me a pretty good indication. ESB is just barely over 2 hours. I'd been holding off recording any movies of this type due to wanting to keep the surround characteristics of the original recording to remain intact on the PVR recording. I trimmed the front and back off the file, and while it apparently cut it ok, I got an error message twice from H264 cutter.

Update: I think the error was real. The file will start to play, but if I scan ahead in the file to later in the movie in either TME or PowerDVD 7.3, it freezes up. This was never an issue before. This was after using H264 Cutter on it. Aw crap, just went back and reviewed the original capture before using Cutter and the sound turns off at 68 mins into movie. Great.

for the inputs and outputs...

i have to connect the optical input from the receiver to the Hauppage device and then from there should the USB be enough or do i also i have to connect the optical output to the computer

They will be exactly the same. The size depends on the bitrates chosen and the nature of the video being recorded. All either application is doing is taking the data that arrives on the USB port and saving it in a file (the Arcsoft software also displays the video whereas rcTVCap doesn't).

No....

so how is the new beta driver's working for everyone?

I tested the beta driver out last night with two episodes of a particular show on cable and although there was a little static in the beginning, the sound during recording seemed fine.

If I recall, the Arcsoft TME cannot burn the 5.1 signal to an AVCHD DVD, but I'll try playing the DVD tonight on a PS3 when I get home.

Looks like the driver is working though.

I have been making some 5.1 recordings in anticipation of the promised Arcsoft TME upgrade. As soon as it becomes available, I intend to burn them as AVCHD Discs. However, I have been experiencing a few problems while making my recordings--- Quite often, the audio would be replaced by a weird clicking sound. Anyone else having this problem? Any suggestions to rectify?

Thanks
Atabea

Very poorly. Choppy video, no sound or only pops/screeches, stereo on some channels when the source is DD5.1... just a mess.

No problems here.

It's been fine here, the biggest difference I've noticed is that when I change from 1080i to 720p or vice versa it takes maybe a second or second and a half longer for the pass through to sync up on my TV, I get a No Signal that flashes up for just a split second right before the picture comes back on my TV. Other than that, it's no different than the original and I now have 5.1 Audio.

Works great for me, but I don't use the ArcSoft software.