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post #3031 of 3665
5/1/12 at 5:14pm
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I get some audio and video skipping on both of my HR21-700s while viewing since the last 2 software upgrades. It also show up when I record to my Hauppauge 1212.

Same here, I just got the latest update last night, so I haven't noticed anything other than it seems to be much quicker, but time will tell on that. I did have glitches and burps with the newer GUI update that I don't recall ever having before, seemed like I had more problems with 720P than I did with 1080i, I noticed it on ESPNU one night, it was happening probably every five minutes during a live softball game.
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post #3032 of 3665
5/1/12 at 5:33pm
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Originally Posted by pacofortacos View Post

cyberfly502, I haven't recoded that I know of. I capture in either .ts or .m2ts and just rename the extension to .mp4 - and then play back on my Samsung bluray player.
SO why do you need .mp4 again (I missed it if you said). To play back ????? xbox???

The .mp4 captures that I did -every one of them - had the audio out of sync. Now normally if the audio is ahead of the video that isn't a problem as many AVR's will adjust that. BUT the problem with my .mp4 captures puts the video ahead of the audio and modifying the file is the only way to fix that.

MY .ts captures with just the extension changed (renamed) from .ts to .mp4 plays perfectly and the video and audio are in sync or at worst the audio is slightly ahead of the video - on HD - which is normal even on discs..

Thanks for the response. I do not necessarily need .mp4. I am mostly going to play back on the computer until I decide what to get to play it back on TV. I am just more familiar with .mp4 over the other two formats. Just want to make sure what I record will be playable wherever I want (other computers, TVs etc.) for many years into the future.
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post #3033 of 3665
5/1/12 at 6:08pm
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Originally Posted by cyberfly502 View Post


Thanks for the response. I do not necessarily need .mp4. I am mostly going to play back on the computer until I decide what to get to play it back on TV. I am just more familiar with .mp4 over the other two formats. Just want to make sure what I record will be playable wherever I want (other computers, TVs etc.) for many years into the future.

I was thinking the same.....want to record in a format that is most versatile. I am thinking .ts ?
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post #3034 of 3665
5/1/12 at 6:16pm
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Originally Posted by pacofortacos View Post

Try checking hardware accelleration on. If that doesn't do it, maybe check preview off.
Also shut off any processes running in the background, ie. internet connection, anti virus, etc.

Might be just not enough horsepower with your laptop OR a bad usb cable connection or an intermittent optical connection if using that OR the direct tv box LOL

You are using Vista right?? Make sure you shut off the bit defender program.

My laptop has an i7 quad in it, but I have use one with an i3 for capture - both win7.

Yes....vista. You did mention that before ....shutting off some stuff. Ill give that a shot next time im trying it out. Not sure if you saw my previous post about using the memory stick and plugging directly to TV? Seemed like it worked ok other than the skipping that i knew was there. You mentioned that you format your drive in ntfs ( sorry if thats wrong, you know what i mean lol) instead of fat32. Just wondering why again?
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post #3035 of 3665
5/1/12 at 8:29pm
I'm no expert, but I avoid MP4 because it is incapable (at least on the Arcsoft software) of providing 5.1 sound, even though it shows as "I'm using S/PDIF and recording in 5.1" while recording, if selected. Try and play the file back, however, and you'll discover it is just stereo.
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post #3036 of 3665
5/1/12 at 8:31pm
This is what I use to play files back on - cheap, great picture, read NTFS drives, netflix and Vudu work well on it Besides it never even hickups at blurays either! ONLY gripe is it doesn't do ff or rw very well (almost not at all) on h.264 files. (mkv, .mp4, etc.)

hXXp://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l2736&_nkw=Samsung+BD-c5500

I prefer ntfs formatted hard drives due to the fact that the captures are just one big file.
If you use fat32 there is a 4GB file size limit, so if you capture either decent quality or a long capture with fat 32 you will have several smaller files that then must be joined.

I saw that on the LG tv, would be nice if it will do all you want.
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post #3037 of 3665
5/1/12 at 8:54pm
I use 'ps3 media server' for streaming to my ps3.
wireless only 135-150mbps. it handles the h.264 files just fine.

I also have the samsung 5500. I like it..
When will they release hbo to go app for it or dtv? ps3?
I know, save it for another thread..
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post #3038 of 3665
5/2/12 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by nikknightt View Post

I use 'ps3 media server' for streaming to my ps3.
wireless only 135-150mbps. it handles the h.264 files just fine.

I also have the samsung 5500. I like it..
When will they release hbo to go app for it or dtv? ps3?
I know, save it for another thread..

So you are capturing/ recording as .m2ts? Not .ts
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post #3039 of 3665
5/2/12 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by pacofortacos View Post

This is what I use to play files back on - cheap, great picture, read NTFS drives, netflix and Vudu work well on it Besides it never even hickups at blurays either! ONLY gripe is it doesn't do ff or rw very well (almost not at all) on h.264 files. (mkv, .mp4, etc.)

hXXp://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l2736&_nkw=Samsung+BD-c5500

I prefer ntfs formatted hard drives due to the fact that the captures are just one big file.
If you use fat32 there is a 4GB file size limit, so if you capture either decent quality or a long capture with fat 32 you will have several smaller files that then must be joined.

I saw that on the LG tv, would be nice if it will do all you want.

I see. I am wondering then....is that why when I copied a DVD (backup of one i own of coarse !) the .TS files were all broken apart? Because the pc was fat32? Always wondered why it didnt end up being one big file.
So anyway, think i may have discovered my skipping issue which i should have known already. Dual Core, but only 180ghz. They say 200 is a minimum requirement so im guessing thats the problem. Looks like a HTPC build is in my future!
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post #3040 of 3665
5/2/12 at 2:02pm
Yep that is why with fat 32.

Do you have a need for a complete HTPC and the issues with them? If not, you can probably pick up a more than sufficient laptop for the same price or even less.

My "desktop" that I am using now, is an old damaged screen laptop that I got on ebay cheap LOL.
I didn't want the noise/power consumption of a desktop any more and I really don't like using a laptop so I have the best of both! Laptop with nice big external monitor and wireless keyboard and mouse

Not only that, but I never had a desktop that went to sleep and came out of it ok - laptops do that chore perfectly everytime. That is the biggest reason.
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post #3041 of 3665
5/2/12 at 2:23pm
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Originally Posted by pacofortacos View Post

Yep that is why with fat 32.

Do you have a need for a complete HTPC and the issues with them? If not, you can probably pick up a more than sufficient laptop for the same price or even less.

My "desktop" that I am using now, is an old damaged screen laptop that I got on ebay cheap LOL.
I didn't want the noise/power consumption of a desktop any more and I really don't like using a laptop so I have the best of both! Laptop with nice big external monitor and wireless keyboard and mouse

Not only that, but I never had a desktop that went to sleep and came out of it ok - laptops do that chore perfectly everytime. That is the biggest reason.

Good points. Its a shame the distance to my desktop wouldnt work. That would be ideal. But maybe a better laptop is the answer. Aint happening anytime soon though. $$$
new tv, avr, sub, and now the pvr. Gotta slow my roll for a bit. Lol. Ill play around with what i have just to feel it out and learn some more as far as formats, file types, etc.
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post #3042 of 3665
5/2/12 at 3:32pm
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Originally Posted by RCD7210 View Post

So you are capturing/ recording as .m2ts? Not .ts

the ps3 can stream m2ts, ts, wmv & I think mp4 via ps3 media server
i just tested m2ts & ts files.
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post #3043 of 3665
5/2/12 at 3:35pm
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Originally Posted by RCD7210 View Post

I see. I am wondering then....is that why when I copied a DVD (backup of one i own of coarse !) the .TS files were all broken apart? Because the pc was fat32? Always wondered why it didnt end up being one big file.
So anyway, think i may have discovered my skipping issue which i should have known already. Dual Core, but only 180ghz. They say 200 is a minimum requirement so im guessing thats the problem. Looks like a HTPC build is in my future!

dvd files (vobs) are already split into .99gb parts on a disc.
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post #3044 of 3665
5/2/12 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by RCD7210 View Post

Good points. Its a shame the distance to my desktop wouldnt work. That would be ideal. But maybe a better laptop is the answer. Aint happening anytime soon though. $$$
new tv, avr, sub, and now the pvr. Gotta slow my roll for a bit. Lol. Ill play around with what i have just to feel it out and learn some more as far as formats, file types, etc.

Why would the distance to your desktop not work? If you place your Hauppauge next to your desktop and run component cables to the Hauppauge, you can run up to 300 feet and still get a good signal.
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post #3045 of 3665
5/2/12 at 5:25pm
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Originally Posted by bpratt View Post


Why would the distance to your desktop not work? If you place your Hauppauge next to your desktop and run component cables to the Hauppauge, you can run up to 300 feet and still get a good signal.

Yea....but i was thinking the optical audio would be the issue.
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post #3046 of 3665
5/2/12 at 5:36pm
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Originally Posted by nikknightt View Post


the ps3 can stream m2ts, ts, wmv & I think mp4 via ps3 media server
i just tested m2ts & ts files.

I wonder if i had it set up right then. I was able to see my laptop on the ps3, but couldnt see the files. I did have success with the usb input on my LG 55lw5600. Just copied file to a flash drive and played from there. Next i planned to set up an external drive like pacofortacos does and try the LG that way. But my laptop issues kinda took the steam out of me for a minute! Lol ill have to check out maximum length for optical. Maybe your other suggestion will work and i can set up by my desktop.
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post #3047 of 3665
5/2/12 at 6:21pm
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Originally Posted by RCD7210 View Post


I see. I am wondering then....is that why when I copied a DVD (backup of one i own of coarse !) the .TS files were all broken apart? Because the pc was fat32? Always wondered why it didnt end up being one big file.
So anyway, think i may have discovered my skipping issue which i should have known already. Dual Core, but only 180ghz. They say 200 is a minimum requirement so im guessing thats the problem. Looks like a HTPC build is in my future!

Just to add....although im working with less than the recommended speed laptop, I tried recording at 7, and then 5 Mbits/sec. Other than the fact that im reliving the Flyers getting their ass kicked by the Devils, it really isnt looking too bad. No skipping like it was at 9 Mbits. I think i may be ok for the time being. Still would like to improve the setup at some point, and my OCD will ensure i will. thanks to you all I have a few ideas to consider. Maybe new laptop or long cable runs to desktop. Have to give it all a think. Thanks to All !!!
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post #3048 of 3665
5/2/12 at 6:59pm
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Originally Posted by RCD7210 View Post

Just to add....although im working with less than the recommended speed laptop, I tried recording at 7, and then 5 Mbits/sec. Other than the fact that im reliving the Flyers getting their ass kicked by the Devils, it really isnt looking too bad. No skipping like it was at 9 Mbits. I think i may be ok for the time being. Still would like to improve the setup at some point, and my OCD will ensure i will. thanks to you all I have a few ideas to consider. Maybe new laptop or long cable runs to desktop. Have to give it all a think. Thanks to All !!!

I didnt catch the distance to your desktop but some people are running long usb cables instead of component. If it's over the max allowable length some are adding repeater cables.
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post #3049 of 3665
5/2/12 at 7:20pm
Optical can travel up to 40 meters. Longer on glass cables (hard to find).
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post #3050 of 3665
5/3/12 at 1:23pm
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Originally Posted by nikknightt View Post


I didnt catch the distance to your desktop but some people are running long usb cables instead of component. If it's over the max allowable length some are adding repeater cables.

Hard to say exact distance because never really measured. Ran some cat5, cable, and phone, but made the lengths myself after pulling. Not thinking usb, because i think it was you that suggested having the HH sit by pc. It would be the components and optical. New laptop is probably what i will end up doing though. Tacosforpaco has me thinking that would be best.
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post #3051 of 3665
5/3/12 at 1:26pm
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Optical can travel up to 40 meters. Longer on glass cables (hard to find).

Yea. I saw some recommended lengths that would work. Monoprice sells a 100' that is actually longer than i even need, and there is also the option of a cat5 extender. Costly though. Thinking a new laptop will be the cleanest and easiest. For now however, 7 Mbits/sec seems to be working well. Thanks!
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post #3052 of 3665
5/3/12 at 1:57pm
Are you doing constant or variable bit rate?
Capturing 1080i or 720P?
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post #3053 of 3665
5/3/12 at 2:17pm
If you think your laptop is choking on the video becuz lack of resources some people have used graphedit to capture. It a light weight app that replaces TME. see the posts around #2616
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post #3054 of 3665
5/3/12 at 3:30pm
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Originally Posted by pacofortacos View Post

Are you doing constant or variable bit rate?
Capturing 1080i or 720P?

Its set to constant and 1080i
Didnt touch the constant/variable because i have no idea what it is. Also, I dont know what "VCR Input" or "Output Enable" mean under the Video Decoder tab, but both are checked by default. I did turn off the preview which i dont need anyway. If 7 Mbits is working, is that a decent quality to record at? Im not really trying to archive anything quite yet. Fyi.....2hrs @ current setting created 6.42gb file.
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5/3/12 at 4:42pm
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Originally Posted by RCD7210 View Post

Fyi.....2hrs @ current setting created 6.42gb file.

I bet you could drop down the size of your captured files quite a bit if you used variable bit rate. That's what I use and I have not noticed any degradation compared to constant bit rate.
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5/3/12 at 5:05pm
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I bet you could drop down the size of your captured files quite a bit if you used variable bit rate. That's what I use and I have not noticed any degradation compared to constant bit rate.

Oh yea? As i mentioned above, really dont know what that setting does? What varies the bitrate.
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5/3/12 at 5:42pm
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Originally Posted by RCD7210 View Post

Oh yea? As i mentioned above, really dont know what that setting does? What varies the bitrate.

My understanding is that an algorithm optimizes the bitrate based on the visual content being captured. Give it a try, you can see for yourself.
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5/3/12 at 6:13pm
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My understanding is that an algorithm optimizes the bitrate based on the visual content being captured. Give it a try, you can see for yourself.

I use variable too. It should drop the size down quite a bit without losing quality.
I just did a 1080/2.0 program last night. 2hrs. 11mb vr = 7.7gb
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post #3059 of 3665
5/3/12 at 6:21pm
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Originally Posted by nikknightt View Post

I use variable too. It should drop the size down quite a bit without losing quality.
I just did a 1080/2.0 program last night. 2hrs. 11mb vr = 7.7gb

Funny, I use the exact same bitrate as you (11mb)
Yeah, these settings work fine for me as well, I can fit between 5 and 6 hours of material (with the multiAVCHD animated menus) on a BD.
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5/3/12 at 7:04pm
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Funny, I use the exact same bitrate as you (11mb)
Yeah, these settings work fine for me as well, I can fit between 5 and 6 hours of material (with the multiAVCHD animated menus) on a BD.

Just wondering....recording successfully at that bitrate......what is your computer processor's speed? As I mentioned in an earlier post, mine is below the minimum 2.0ghz. I have 1.88. Im asking because im just trying to get an idea what I am setting my sights on with a new laptop. Saw some at great prices with 2.55ghz.
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