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post #3181 of 3646
5/31/12 at 7:20am
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Originally Posted by nikknightt View Post

Hyrax, You get the same audio sync problems when joing with videredo? (I don't)
Wouldn't it re-write the entire file with new timecode?

VRD did not produce audio sync problems.This was many years ago and I forget the exact reason (missing PID?), but I sometimes had problems where VRD would not allow me to include files in the join list.
Sorry for not being clear - VRD worked fine if it could read in the files. It definitely a great tool to use when joining clips from different recordings.
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5/31/12 at 7:41am
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Originally Posted by m. zillch View Post

Hyrax,
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And can you guarantee that no such glitch would occur with any other media player out there, using the DOS command window method?

Good God, no!
What using the binary append does is perfectly join two files. There has to be some understanding of what the files contain and of what you are doing.

It solved a problem I had with hundreds of my own files. I was just warning people that tools like TSMuxer, MKVMerge, and eac3to can introduce audio sync problems. It also allowed me to get around a situation where VRD would not read the files. The whole situation was a really frustrating experience for me and I was hoping to spare others the same fate.

These are not DOS commands - they are operating system commands that you type in a Windows command window. I can understand some people being afraid to open a command window and issue operating system commands, but if you're careful they are safe to use.
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5/31/12 at 9:21am
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Originally Posted by RCD7210 View Post

Thanks nikknightt. That is the same version i have. Guess they didnt resolve it.

You can download a previous version of TME and drivers here.
Then test that large file.

http://www.shspvr.com/smf/index.php?topic=12117.0
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post #3184 of 3646
5/31/12 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by nikknightt View Post


You can download a previous version of TME and drivers here.
Then test that large file.

http://www.shspvr.com/smf/index.php?topic=12117.0

I just had success with a 6.19gb file. And it is a 2 hr 40 min recording so my TME issue may not be file size related. Im trying imgburn for the first time now to create a disc with the edited file.
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post #3185 of 3646
5/31/12 at 12:45pm
I am looking to get a media player to play the files I create with the PVR. I have narrowed the list down to two and was wondering if anybody can recommend one over the other.

I am thinking about either this Hauppauge:
http://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-1340...8493164&sr=8-1

Or this one from Western Digital:

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digita.../ref=pd_cp_e_3

The Western Digital seems to get better reviews on Amazon but I have more faith in the people here.
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5/31/12 at 2:33pm
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Originally Posted by RCD7210 View Post

I just had success with a 6.19gb file. And it is a 2 hr 40 min recording so my TME issue may not be file size related. Im trying imgburn for the first time now to create a disc with the edited file.

In some instances some virus/malware scan software which runs things invisibly in the background must be turned off while burning. My Norton Security Suite software specifically mentions this, and even has a mode to automatically go into sleep mode when it detects you launch certain programs of your choosing [and disc burning software is specifically mentioned].
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Today I used the "join" command in tsmuxer to combine two large TS files. It took 6m47s and plays back in TME without issue, no pausing, BTW.

Media center also had no issue.
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post #3187 of 3646
5/31/12 at 2:39pm
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Originally Posted by gimp View Post

Recently upgraded from a DirecTV HR22 to the new HR34 and was shocked to find that the HR34 has SPDI/F instead of TOSLINK. Looks like I'll have to buy a converter

Did you get a converter and does it work? Can I ask you which converter you bought?

They're replacing my HR20-700 with a HR34 and I have the same problem with my Hauppauge Colossus. Ordered a digital coax to optical convertor and will give it a try. Just wondered how yours worked out.
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post #3188 of 3646
5/31/12 at 4:51pm
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Originally Posted by m. zillch View Post


In some instances some virus/malware scan software which runs things invisibly in the background must be turned off while burning. My Norton Security Suite software specifically mentions this, and even has a mode to automatically go into sleep mode when it detects you launch certain programs of your choosing [and disc burning software is specifically mentioned].
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Today I used the "join" command in tsmuxer to combine two large TS files. It took 6m47s and plays back in TME without issue, no pausing, BTW.

Media center also had no issue.

I have been using game booster which does shut down some non essential programs. Ive tried it both ways. I ran malware remover also because i was thinking that too. I cant seem to get tsmuxer to work for me. Keep getting a stopped working message and windows shuts it down.
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post #3189 of 3646
5/31/12 at 5:03pm
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Originally Posted by RCD7210 View Post

I have been using game booster which does shut down some non essential programs. Ive tried it both ways. I ran malware remover also because i was thinking that too. I cant seem to get tsmuxer to work for me. Keep getting a stopped working message and windows shuts it down.

Is that with the TME edited m2ts files or with the PVR created ts files?
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post #3190 of 3646
5/31/12 at 5:13pm
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Originally Posted by RCD7210 View Post

Ive tried it both ways. I ran malware remover also because i was thinking that too.

No, no, I wasn't suggesting the problem was malware, but rather the watchdog security program I use which is constantly operating in the background looking for viruses, malware, firewall intrusions, etc. that's getting in the way of a complete, fully burned disc.

Read about "quiet mode" here:
https://www-secure.symantec.com/nort...=1&pvid=f-home
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post #3191 of 3646
5/31/12 at 5:27pm
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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post

These are not DOS commands - they are operating system commands that you type in a Windows command window. I can understand some people being afraid to open a command window and issue operating system commands, but if you're careful they are safe to use.

I agree, I've found the command line method to be absolutely reliable. I went one step further to avoid having to type the command each time. Here's my workflow:

First, I open a text editor like notepad and paste this line:
copy /b *.ts joined_files.ts
Then I save the file and name it joiner.bat (make sure that the extension is .bat and not .txt). This is a one time operation only, and I keep the joiner.bat file in the folder where my recordings are saved.

From here the procedure is simple. I name my .ts files sequentially to get the desired joining sequence (1.ts, 2.ts and so on will do the job). I place the joiner.bat file and the individual .ts files in the same folder and double click on joiner.bat. The joining process starts immediately and after a few seconds (depending on the size of the .ts files) a merged clip named joined_files.ts is created
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5/31/12 at 7:36pm
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Originally Posted by cyberfly502 View Post

I am looking to get a media player to play the files I create with the PVR. I have narrowed the list down to two and was wondering if anybody can recommend one over the other.

I am thinking about either this Hauppauge:
http://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-1340...8493164&sr=8-1

Or this one from Western Digital:

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digita.../ref=pd_cp_e_3

The Western Digital seems to get better reviews on Amazon but I have more faith in the people here.



I've use the Western Digital before, while it does read most any file, I wasn't happy with the picture quality.
I currently use a Samsung bdc5500 bluray player as my media player for the PVR files. Picture quality is very very good.
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post #3193 of 3646
5/31/12 at 7:45pm
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Originally Posted by RCD7210 View Post

Thanks nikknightt. That is the same version i have. Guess they didnt resolve it.

Sorry for not letting anyone know...V7Goose and myself seemed to be the only one's having the 100 minutes or longer issue.

I had exchanged emails with Hauppauge on this issue and received a reply from Jerry at Hauppauge
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According to our engineer, the problem with 100 minutes avchd should be fixed in the upcoming Arcsoft update release that we been working on with them. The update would come from Arcsoft once we tell me that we are satisfied with it and TME2 would tell you that an update is available.

The issue has been resolved in my case Everything is working as desired.

I received an program update notice from Arcsoft within the program start....the version of TME2 I'm now using is 2.0.45.12 & TME Studio version is 3.0.39.27 I've done about 20 disks without a hitch (single disks & dual-layer disks).

I always use Imgburn for burning. I test on RW Disks (Single-layer movies) first to see title menu appearance and font look/sizing and check quality, chapter stops etc..... before committing to a disk. This method works for me.

Thank You nikknightt for you many tips

Steve
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post #3194 of 3646
6/1/12 at 8:11am
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Originally Posted by cyberfly502 View Post

I am looking to get a media player to play the files I create with the PVR. I have narrowed the list down to two and was wondering if anybody can recommend one over the other.

I am thinking about either this Hauppauge:
http://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-1340...8493164&sr=8-1

Or this one from Western Digital:

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digita.../ref=pd_cp_e_3

The Western Digital seems to get better reviews on Amazon but I have more faith in the people here.

I have used the WD players for years and they work great. I am currently using the WD Live Hub and it plays the files from the HD-PVR just fine. I have run some HDTV test signals through it and it is excellent picture quality and I set 7 feet away from my 65 inch 1080P HDTV.

Mike T
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post #3195 of 3646
6/1/12 at 8:21am
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Originally Posted by Zon2020 View Post


Did you get a converter and does it work? Can I ask you which converter you bought?

They're replacing my HR20-700 with a HR34 and I have the same problem with my Hauppauge Colossus. Ordered a digital coax to optical convertor and will give it a try. Just wondered how yours worked out.

Didn't buy one yet. Let us know how it works. HR34 is fantastic! Highly reccommend.
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post #3196 of 3646
6/2/12 at 5:41am
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Originally Posted by m. zillch View Post


No, no, I wasn't suggesting the problem was malware, but rather the watchdog security program I use which is constantly operating in the background looking for viruses, malware, firewall intrusions, etc. that's getting in the way of a complete, fully burned disc.

Read about "quiet mode" here:
https://www-secure.symantec.com/nort...=1&pvid=f-home

Oh. Yea i have heard that. Ill have to look and see if that is something that is shut down by game booster. I know they say windows defender is, but maybe the iorbit malware isnt. Ill have to look at that.
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6/2/12 at 5:45am
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Originally Posted by Shooter33 View Post


Sorry for not letting anyone know...V7Goose and myself seemed to be the only one's having the 100 minutes or longer issue.

I had exchanged emails with Hauppauge on this issue and received a reply from Jerry at Hauppauge

The issue has been resolved in my case Everything is working as desired.

I received an program update notice from Arcsoft within the program start....the version of TME2 I'm now using is 2.0.45.12 & TME Studio version is 3.0.39.27 I've done about 20 disks without a hitch (single disks & dual-layer disks).

I always use Imgburn for burning. I test on RW Disks (Single-layer movies) first to see title menu appearance and font look/sizing and check quality, chapter stops etc..... before committing to a disk. This method works for me.

Thank You nikknightt for you many tips

Steve

Do you have to change any imgburn settings when burning a dual layer disc? I tried one and it burned partially then failed. I could actually play it too, right up to the point of failure.
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6/2/12 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by cyberfly502 View Post

I am looking to get a media player to play the files I create with the PVR. I have narrowed the list down to ...
I am thinking about either this Hauppauge:
http://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-1340...8493164&sr=8-1

Or this one from Western Digital:

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digita.../ref=pd_cp_e_3
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I use a Dune HD Smart H1 (http://dune-hd.com/hd_players/curren...-smart-h1.html) and it is great (plays everything I throw at it)...but it recently had a big price increase, so it may no longer be such a great choice. My brother has a WD streamer and had troubles accessing files over the network. If you go that way, you might need to consider buying or building a NAS. You can easily build a NAS for free using an old computer and unRAID (http://lime-technology.com).
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6/2/12 at 10:35am
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Originally Posted by RCD7210 View Post

Do you have to change any imgburn settings when burning a dual layer disc? I tried one and it burned partially then failed. I could actually play it too, right up to the point of failure.

No changes are necessary with imgburn to create a dual layer disc. However, some brands of dual layer discs have lots of failures. Memorex is the worst. I had 50+ percent failures with Memorex. I now use only Verbatim dual layer discs and never have failures.
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6/2/12 at 11:43am
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No changes are necessary with imgburn to create a dual layer disc. However, some brands of dual layer discs have lots of failures. Memorex is the worst. I had 50+ percent failures with Memorex. I now use only Verbatim dual layer discs and never have failures.

Nice. Verbatim is what I have.
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post #3201 of 3646
6/2/12 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by RCD7210 View Post

Nice. Verbatim is what I have.

Make sure you have the latest firmware on your DVD burner. Also, Verbatim makes two different dual layer DVD discs, a 2X and an 8X. I always use the 8X because I think the price is the same. I've burned hundreds of Verbatim dual layer 8X disks with imgburn and never had a single failure.
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6/2/12 at 5:24pm
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Make sure you have the latest firmware on your DVD burner. Also, Verbatim makes two different dual layer DVD discs, a 2X and an 8X. I always use the 8X because I think the price is the same. I've burned hundreds of Verbatim dual layer 8X disks with imgburn and never had a single failure.

I have 2x. My burner is "slimtype dvd A DS8A1H ATA Device". Found my firmware as WH66, but the HP website shows no firmware updates. Just tried with my Plextor PX-880U to see how that goes. When using imgburn, am i selecting the BDMV folder that was created after editing with TME? And use "write files/folders to disc" on the imgburn?
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6/2/12 at 6:48pm
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Originally Posted by Zon2020 View Post

They're replacing my HR20-700 with a HR34 and I have the same problem with my Hauppauge Colossus. Ordered a digital coax to optical convertor and will give it a try. Just wondered how yours worked out.

I use this one with my H24 and HD PVR without any problems.
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6/2/12 at 6:55pm
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I have 2x. My burner is "slimtype dvd A DS8A1H ATA Device". Found my firmware as WH66, but the HP website shows no firmware updates. Just tried with my Plextor PX-880U to see how that goes. When using imgburn, am i selecting the BDMV folder that was created after editing with TME? And use "write files/folders to disc" on the imgburn?

Did you follow the ImgBurn guide i posted awhile back?
You should add a 'certificate' folder to the burn also.
But that's not your burning issue.

http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/arch...th_imgburn.cfm
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6/2/12 at 6:56pm
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Originally Posted by bpratt View Post

No changes are necessary with imgburn to create a dual layer disc. However, some brands of dual layer discs have lots of failures. Memorex is the worst. I had 50+ percent failures with Memorex. I now use only Verbatim dual layer discs and never have failures.

This information is accurate in my opinion also.......I only buy Verbatim dual-layers. I use JVC/Taiyo Yuden, Sony for single-layer burning.

Imgburn automatically senses which format you burning the disk for video .ts or BDMV, I also never change any settings. I always "verify" disks also, I do not verify my test disks (DVDRW)

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Do you have to change any imgburn settings when burning a dual layer disc? I tried one and it burned partially then failed. I could actually play it too, right up to the point of failure.

I also had successful burns before the disk would choke at the 100 minute mark. I originally thought it was a imgburn/disk issue till I heard about others having the 100 minute problem with TME2. All is good now.

Steve
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6/2/12 at 7:11pm
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Originally Posted by nikknightt View Post

Did you follow the ImgBurn guide i posted awhile back?
You should add a 'certificate' folder to the burn also.
But that's not your burning issue.

http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/arch...th_imgburn.cfm

I just burn BDMV folder to DVD or DVD DL no certificate folder. When I create a file/folder to burn I have never had a certificate folder. According to the link I have below.
http://adubvideo.net/how-to/burn-avchds-blurays-imgburn
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If you include the CERTIFICATE folder in a AVCHD compilation, you run the risk of confusing your Blu-ray player and producing a non-playable disk.

Now if I was burning to a blu-ray disk (which I don't) I would have to include the certificate folder. I would assume that you would now have the certificate folder in which to include with your burn, when creating with TME2. Someone who burns to blu-rays would have to confirm this.


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6/2/12 at 7:59pm
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Originally Posted by nikknightt View Post


Did you follow the ImgBurn guide i posted awhile back?
You should add a 'certificate' folder to the burn also.
But that's not your burning issue.

http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/arch...th_imgburn.cfm

I just did one with my external Plextor burner and imgburn. Worked perfectly. Must be something with my internal burner. Didnt include the certificate folder though. Played fine on my ps3. Thanks for the guide. Ill check that out.
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6/3/12 at 9:04am
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Originally Posted by Shooter33 View Post

I just burn BDMV folder to DVD or DVD DL no certificate folder. When I create a file/folder to burn I have never had a certificate folder. According to the link I have below.
http://adubvideo.net/how-to/burn-avchds-blurays-imgburn
Now if I was burning to a blu-ray disk (which I don't) I would have to include the certificate folder. I would assume that you would now have the certificate folder in which to include with your burn, when creating with TME2. Someone who burns to blu-rays would have to confirm this.
Steve

Opinions vary on the Certificate folder.
Tsmuxer & Multiavchd both add it when authoring avchd & blu-ray.
I add it for both formats.
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6/3/12 at 9:12am
I now always use the certificate folder in addition to the BDMV. True, many BD players don't need it, and will play a BDMV file all by itself without issue, however there are some that definitely need the Certificate folder to be present, or they won't play at all, and there's no such thing as a standalone BD player that only plays BDMV discs without any Certificate folder present on the disc.

Adding the Certificate folder is now a largely automatic process with these burning programs anyways, so it's fairly painless, but even when having to be done manually, it is the better bet because it ensures greater compatibility down the road, even if one's current BD machine happens to not be so picky about this matter.
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6/3/12 at 10:49am
Thanks for the responses Hyrax, mtallent, and pacofortacos. I think I am going to get the Western Digital. The price is about the same as the Hauppauge and seems to be the more recommended choice. I am not really going to be networking, mostly playing files from my external hard drive or a flash drive.

I probably won't use the netflix streaming or hulu etc., although I said the same things before I got an iPhone. "I won't use apps or play games on my phone" and then once I had them, I did.
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