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post #3271 of 3646
6/13/12 at 5:33pm
I haven't posted here in a long time since I worked all the bugs out long time ago but anyway I have the 1st generation PVR and all of a sudden i'm "USB Device Not Recognized". I tried unplugging the USB, Power to try to reset but it didn't work. I tried a different USB cable with same result. Power light is on so the unit is getting power i'm wondering if anyone knows a fix for this. I've had this unit since the 1st shipment so I've gotten my money's worth if it's dead just don't wanna buy another one right now.
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post #3272 of 3646
6/13/12 at 6:30pm
I had that same problem about two weeks ago, I reistalled the drivers and I was good to go. Hopefully your problem will be as simple to fix.
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post #3273 of 3646
6/14/12 at 7:01am
I'm moving my HD PVR + ViewHD converter from my home office to my TV room. I'm used to my office being a rat's nest of wires, but don't want the same look in my TV room. Has anyone been able to set this up so it doesn't look like Frankenstein's workshop? If so, a brief description of a picture of your setup would be appreciated.
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post #3274 of 3646
6/14/12 at 3:44pm
So, I finally got the 1212 and have been playing around with it a little bit. I have been saving the files as ts files. I was thinking of then converting to mp4 as I will be keeping these files on a hard drive and playing them on my computer or WD TV Live streamer.

My question is, for my purposes is it better to leave it as a ts file? Will ts files continue to be playable? Should I convert it to something else?
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post #3275 of 3646
6/14/12 at 3:54pm
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Originally Posted by cyberfly502 View Post

So, I finally got the 1212 and have been playing around with it a little bit. I have been saving the files as ts files. I was thinking of then converting to mp4 as I will be keeping these files on a hard drive and playing them on my computer or WD TV Live streamer.
My question is, for my purposes is it better to leave it as a ts file? Will ts files continue to be playable? Should I convert it to something else?
Windows Media Player, as well as many others, like VLC Media Player, play .ts files just fine. In fact, .ts files are more generally playable than .m2ts files. I've had some issues with .mp4 files - mostly with either missing or out-of-sync audio.

I've been saving everything as .ts files and burning just the straight files to BluRays. Yes, I know that some standalone BluRay players may not like them but my PS/3 has no problem and I figure if I ever want to set them up with titles and chapters, I can start with the .ts files and work from there (not likely, though - I don't have the time or inclination to mess with 400 hours or more of video).
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post #3276 of 3646
6/14/12 at 5:36pm
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Windows Media Player, as well as many others, like VLC Media Player, play .ts files just fine. In fact, .ts files are more generally playable than .m2ts files. I've had some issues with .mp4 files - mostly with either missing or out-of-sync audio.
I've been saving everything as .ts files and burning just the straight files to BluRays. Yes, I know that some standalone BluRay players may not like them but my PS/3 has no problem and I figure if I ever want to set them up with titles and chapters, I can start with the .ts files and work from there (not likely, though - I don't have the time or inclination to mess with 400 hours or more of video).

I was not surprised VLC could play the ts files but I was surprised Windows Media Player could play them. I have been using VideoReDo trial also. I converted the files to mp4 but had to also convert the audio to aac from ac3 in order to get sound (although VLC played the mp4 with ac3, but media player and the WD did not). The picture quality was fine but I did not like the audio so keeping them as ts is a maybe.

Another question, I combined my test ts files using videoredo as well as the windows DOS command method. Both worked, but I found on the WD, the DOS joined file was missing audio in the middle (it was the second of three files I joined). Any ideas why? The source file (the indivdual file that was merged in between the other two) played fine on the WD, and the joined file played fine on the computer. The Videoredo joined file played fine everywhere. Seemed strange that it had no sound only in the middle on the WD, but the source played fine.
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post #3277 of 3646
6/14/12 at 6:53pm
I bought VideoRedo TV Suite about 4 months ago and I'm very happy with the program and the results. Edits are exactly where I set them. It's fast and simple to use. I use Ad Detective both to find commercials, though sometimes it misses breaks or places edits where it shouldn't (you have to check each) and to "zip" through a recording and note segment and program changes. I've dubbed nearly 200 2-hour videocassettes and fit them onto 14 BluRays, saving 7 shelves of space in my office.

Luckily, I have access to a TBC (Time Base Corrector), so the videos are rock-solid - no video tearing or rolling.
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post #3278 of 3646
6/22/12 at 5:53am
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Originally Posted by cyberfly502 View Post

So, I finally got the 1212 and have been playing around with it a little bit. I have been saving the files as ts files. I was thinking of then converting to mp4 as I will be keeping these files on a hard drive and playing them on my computer or WD TV Live streamer.
My question is, for my purposes is it better to leave it as a ts file? Will ts files continue to be playable? Should I convert it to something else?

I wondered about this as well. I have recorded many movies/programs now and all at .ts stored on a ex hd. My thinking is that if they are playing well (which they do) I would keep them that way and could change later if needed. I did see a few posts back where someone mentioned that they preferred .m2ts. I didnt understand the explanation as to why so Im not sure if it was opinion or if there is a real benefit to that. I will say that my concern is when I have to edit the .ts with TME. Using TME to edit, you "create avchd" and end with a .m2ts file. I then try to change the edited .m2ts file back to .ts (just to be consistent) and tsmuxer wont do it for me. So, I have been just changing the extention by renaming. They play fine, but Im not sure how I feel about doing it that way.
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post #3279 of 3646
6/22/12 at 6:25am
My feeling is that renaming a video file extension is to be avoided. Renaming doesn't change the container so it doesn't really do anything except obscure what the original container might be. More often than not, it probably doesn't cause a problem, but it is a real pain when it does. You may run into a situation something like where you want to run a batch converter in the future, but it may choke because the container type doesn't match the extension on the renamed files.

I've had no problems with .TS files, but it really is not a common container. As to which is better, mp4 seems to be more limiting as to what type of audio it can contain. m2ts used to be problem sometimes with some players like VLC, but that seems to have gone mostly away.

Therefore, I have settled on having the HDPVR create m2ts files that I've been converting to MKV files - using MakeMKV. I keep the original file as a backup in case I ever need it.
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post #3280 of 3646
6/22/12 at 11:18am
new power supply did the trick
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post #3281 of 3646
6/22/12 at 7:34pm
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Originally Posted by RCD7210 View Post

I wondered about this as well. I have recorded many movies/programs now and all at .ts stored on a ex hd. My thinking is that if they are playing well (which they do) I would keep them that way and could change later if needed. I did see a few posts back where someone mentioned that they preferred .m2ts. I didnt understand the explanation as to why so Im not sure if it was opinion or if there is a real benefit to that. I will say that my concern is when I have to edit the .ts with TME. Using TME to edit, you "create avchd" and end with a .m2ts file. I then try to change the edited .m2ts file back to .ts (just to be consistent) and tsmuxer wont do it for me. So, I have been just changing the extention by renaming. They play fine, but Im not sure how I feel about doing it that way.

So far, I have been keeping everything as .ts files. The only problem I have had was trying to play them at work, but they do not keep the systems updated that much. (the computers are still running windows XP). mp4 did play though, so I figured I will keep everything as ts and change as necessary.

I do want to say I give a big thumbs up to VideoRedo. After a slight learning curve, I have found it very easy to use and very good.
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post #3282 of 3646
6/22/12 at 7:36pm
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My feeling is that renaming a video file extension is to be avoided. Renaming doesn't change the container so it doesn't really do anything except obscure what the original container might be. More often than not, it probably doesn't cause a problem, but it is a real pain when it does. You may run into a situation something like where you want to run a batch converter in the future, but it may choke because the container type doesn't match the extension on the renamed files.
I've had no problems with .TS files, but it really is not a common container. As to which is better, mp4 seems to be more limiting as to what type of audio it can contain. m2ts used to be problem sometimes with some players like VLC, but that seems to have gone mostly away.
Therefore, I have settled on having the HDPVR create m2ts files that I've been converting to MKV files - using MakeMKV. I keep the original file as a backup in case I ever need it.


Keeping the original unedited files are a good idea. I think I will start doing that. Never hurts to have the original.
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post #3283 of 3646
6/23/12 at 7:29pm
I have a problem that I have not seen mentioned before. Some of the files I have created with the Hauppauge have audio only coming out of one speaker on my computer when I play back the file. This is happening on both my computer and my parents so it is not the computer. I have a DVD recorder outputting to the Hauppauge using component cables.

I am computerizing my old DVDs. The files that I am having this problem with were originally recorded on a Betamax using coax cables. (I know it is the worst connection but at the time I was just happy I could record anything). I eventually transferred it to DVD from the Beta. I am not sure how I connected it, but it was most likely composite or S-Video if it had the connection. I might have used coax but I don’t think so. Could that be the cause of the issue of me only getting audio out of one speaker?

I have another machine that I have used (DVD/VCR combo) and files from there play fine on both speakers, but unfortunately that machine won’t play the DVD so I cannot test it from there.

I will test some more but if anyone can shed some light I would appreciate it.
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post #3284 of 3646
6/23/12 at 7:48pm
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Originally Posted by cyberfly502 View Post

I have a DVD recorder outputting to the Hauppauge using component cables. I am computerizing my old DVDs.
First, you are re-encoding.
Second, why not just copy VOB files to your computer and then merge them using VOBMerge. http://www.videohelp.com/tools/VOBMerge
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post #3285 of 3646
6/23/12 at 7:53pm
Cyberfly, One of the RCA phono plugs, usually one's red and the other's white/gray/blue/or black, was not well seated or the cord or connection jack is faulty/intermittent, somewhere in your chain. If it happened as you were recording to the DVD then it is permanently etched into the recording and you'll have to live with it. To diagnose where the lost channel occurs, flip the left and right RCA jacks at each connection juncture along the way to discover where the lost channel occurs. Good luck.
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post #3286 of 3646
6/23/12 at 8:10pm
MozartMan, I will look into VOBMerge. I do realize I am re-encoding, I am learning on the fly here.

M. Zillich - I think it is etched onto the recording. I did some more testing (just watching through Arcsoft without capturing anything) and the problem seems to be limited to the first two dvds I made. These are unique in that they were the only two made on a Gateway machine I had (which I returned because it was crap). Later DVDs made on an RCA machine and the current Panasonic machines I have do not have the problem, leading me to believe it was the Gateway machine that probably had a faulty connection. (it was a piece of crap).

Thanks, I will have to live with it. It seems to be only the first two DVDs and it is not that bad. I did not even notice it on my own computer. I realized it at my parents house and only if I put my ears to the speakers do I even notice the problem.
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post #3287 of 3646
7/6/12 at 1:35pm
Hey Guys (and gals?) I am wanting to put movies on a thumb drive that must be fat16 or fat32. So, I am limited as far as my file size. My player will play h.264/mpeg4, mpeg2, mpeg1, and wmv9. If you had a .ts file from the hauppauge......say 7gb in size......what would be a good way to go to get on my drive taking into consideration the file size limitations? My first thought was wmv9 only because I was thinking it would be small enough. Or, splitting the movie in half and just dealing with the whole part 1, "intermission", part 2.

Just FYI....I am trying to play on my Kenwood head unit which will not read usb formatted NTSF frown.gif That would have been too easy for me. I can burn to dvd, but was hoping to avoid that. If wmv9 is the best option, any programs you know of? Maybe another reason to get videoredo?
Thanks!
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post #3288 of 3646
7/6/12 at 3:21pm
What is the model number of your Kenwood unit?
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post #3289 of 3646
7/6/12 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by m. zillch View Post

What is the model number of your Kenwood unit?

DNX-6990HD. Just checked to see if it plays dual layer DVDs thinking I could use RWs. But no. I did use a 16gb usb drive just to see if the drive size was limited and its works fine. Seems like i am just needing to be able to convert large .ts files to smaller size in any of the supported formats.
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post #3290 of 3646
7/6/12 at 6:15pm
With many home Bluray machines I have, the files it supports in the disc drive is quite different from the files it supports in the USB port and SD card slot, so I would think this would likely be true of your car deck. I would read the manual

it says , regarding USB, p115:
Video Decoder
: MPEG1/MPEG2/MPEG4/WMV/H.264
Audio Decoder
: MP3/ WMA/ AAC/ WAV

Further discussion of you car radio should be in another forum since it doesn't really pertain to the Hauppauge.wink.gif
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post #3291 of 3646
7/6/12 at 7:47pm
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Originally Posted by m. zillch View Post

With many home Bluray machines I have, the files it supports in the disc drive is quite different from the files it supports in the USB port and SD card slot, so I would think this would likely be true of your car deck. I would read the manual
it says , regarding USB, p115:
Video Decoder
: MPEG1/MPEG2/MPEG4/WMV/H.264
Audio Decoder
: MP3/ WMA/ AAC/ WAV
Further discussion of you car radio should be in another forum since it doesn't really pertain to the Hauppauge.wink.gif

Thank You M. zillch. Yes. I did read the manual and saw what you did. Thats how I was able to list the same formats you mentioned in my original question. Sorry if I worded it more like a car radio question as opposed to a "converting the .TS file for a specific use once I captured from hauppauge" question. I guess I was only asking here because I know from past experience that yourself, cctvtech, nikknightt, and tacosforpaco, just to mention a few, have been so helpful and use various programs to convert, demux, remux, author, etc
Just to complete the thought in case it does help someone though..... Windows Live Movie Maker converted the 5.08 gb .TS file and created a 2.80 gb .wmv file. The quality is not too bad for intended purpose. Looks pretty good on the 6.1" screen.
Thanks again for the help !
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post #3292 of 3646
7/6/12 at 9:03pm
I couldnt open the kenwood manual but if it plays avchd from flash drive you can create ts files with great quality (large file size) with the hauppauge and then use tsmuxer to create the avchd.
Just choose to split the file into chunks up to 4gb under the split/cut tab.
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post #3293 of 3646
7/7/12 at 7:05pm
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Originally Posted by nikknightt View Post

I couldnt open the kenwood manual but if it plays avchd from flash drive you can create ts files with great quality (large file size) with the hauppauge and then use tsmuxer to create the avchd.
Just choose to split the file into chunks up to 4gb under the split/cut tab.

Thanks nikknightt ! I often seem to have issues with tsmuxer for some reason. Sees the video, but not the audio. I think we discussed this before and ended up with the possibilty that there could be a few seconds of 2 channel at the beginning of the capture that throws things off. And when I tried to test that theory by cutting off the beginning with TME, I end with the m2ts that tsmuxer never allows for me. But, as it turned out, Windows Live Movie Maker is a very easy solution. I am importing the appropriate .ts made by the Hauppauge.......choosing to create a dvd in WLMM......then just saving it instead of actually burning to disc. It is providing me file sizes that are around 2 - 3 gb. No problems putting on the flash drive and they actually look nice on the 6.1" screen. 2 channel audio which is all my head unit will play anyway. Probably wont do this that often, but just wanted the option. Nice to have a handfull of movies on a usb stick in the glovebox. I actually considered splitting like you mentioned as well. Might still try it.
Thanks for replying. Your advice has always helped and is appreciated !
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post #3294 of 3646
7/7/12 at 7:31pm
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Originally Posted by RCD7210 View Post

Thanks nikknightt ! I often seem to have issues with tsmuxer for some reason. Sees the video, but not the audio. I think we discussed this before and ended up with the possibilty that there could be a few seconds of 2 channel at the beginning of the capture that throws things off. And when I tried to test that theory by cutting off the beginning with TME, I end with the m2ts that tsmuxer never allows for me. But, as it turned out, Windows Live Movie Maker is a very easy solution. I am importing the appropriate .ts made by the Hauppauge.......choosing to create a dvd in WLMM......then just saving it instead of actually burning to disc. It is providing me file sizes that are around 2 - 3 gb. No problems putting on the flash drive and they actually look nice on the 6.1" screen. 2 channel audio which is all my head unit will play anyway. Probably wont do this that often, but just wanted the option. Nice to have a handfull of movies on a usb stick in the glovebox. I actually considered splitting like you mentioned as well. Might still try it.
Thanks for replying. Your advice has always helped and is appreciated !

oh yeah, that issue again.. lol
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post #3295 of 3646
7/7/12 at 7:47pm
RCD, try using tsmux (Different than tsmuxer) to remux the file before importing it into tsmuxer. it might help make it compatible.
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7/7/12 at 7:52pm
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RCD, try using tsmux (Different than tsmuxer) to remux the file before importing it into tsmuxer. it might help make it compatible.

I just did a quick test with my pvr, created a ts file with the video already streaming thru and captured it.
Then I put my dvr on pause then started capturing.
The clip that started with my dvr on pause worked with tsmuxer, the clip that was already in motion streaming thru the pvr didn't.

Do you start capturing with your dvr on pause?
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post #3297 of 3646
7/14/12 at 9:38am
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Originally Posted by nikknightt View Post

I just did a quick test with my pvr, created a ts file with the video already streaming thru and captured it.
Then I put my dvr on pause then started capturing.
The clip that started with my dvr on pause worked with tsmuxer, the clip that was already in motion streaming thru the pvr didn't.
Do you start capturing with your dvr on pause?

I did not.....and if I ever have it was by mistake. So your saying set up the dvr where I want to begin and set it to pause at that point. Then, start the capturing and after it actually starts, hit play on dvr ? I will have to start doing that way and see what happens for me.
Thanks once again ! It is now officially my goal to help you out with something some day ! lol
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7/14/12 at 11:15am
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Originally Posted by RCD7210 View Post

So your saying set up the dvr where I want to begin and set it to pause at that point. Then, start the capturing and after it actually starts, hit play on dvr ?
Yes.
It may have just been a fluke but the file worked with tsmuxer when I do it that way.. (thats how I always capture)
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7/14/12 at 12:10pm
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Recently upgraded from a DirecTV HR22 to the new HR34 and was shocked to find that the HR34 has SPDI/F instead of TOSLINK. Looks like I'll have to buy a converter

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Didn't buy one yet. Let us know how it works. HR34 is fantastic! Highly reccommend.

Bought a Monoprice Coaxial (RCA) to Optical Toslink Digital Audio Converter but it does not work. When connected I get no picture or sound in the TME Record app. Changing TME audio to rca front or rear results in getting a picture OK. I'm using the original TME that came with the Hauppauge. Any freeware alternatives?
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7/14/12 at 4:03pm
To record using optical cord (Toslink) in Dolby Digital 5.1, the source has to be spitting it out, not DTS, etc. The default of many devices is to not activare the optical out and when they do it is often preset to stereo, not 5.1 Dolby D.

You also can't just use the CD software that comes in the Hauppauge box (at least not when I bought mine), you have to upgrade the software at the Arcsoft site/(and Hauppauge site?), per their instructions, a free process; you aren't buying anything.

Have you verified the signal coming out of the Monoprice adapter is DD 5.1 by sending it to a device like an AVR that takes DD 5.1?

P.S. What's "in" and what's "out" on the back of the HDPVR is very poorly laid out. Be sure you aren't accidentally going to the "out" port. It isn't placed where one would think it should be.
Edited by m. zillch - 7/14/12 at 4:10pm
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