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post #3391 of 3814
Searching for the answer to an issue. I've posted a self-explanatory video at http://youtu.be/2cAmSoBt2iU - audio also has a lot of hum. Perhaps a power issue, as one or two people have already experienced?
post #3392 of 3814
You most likely have a ground loop created when your computer system is connected to you A/V system. There are different ways to address it, but usually the best and fastest is to install a ground breaker on the incoming cable or sat. feed.

See this:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1055232/hauppauge-hdpvr-1212-owners-thread/2040#post_18889001

[Obviously check to see that all your RCA plugs are seated fully in their jacks, too.]
post #3393 of 3814
You know, I was thinking along those lines. However, nothing's changed that I can think of since the last time it was used (admittedly, a few months back). I'll do a bit more digging. Thanks for the idea.
post #3394 of 3814
If your on CableTV system then want pick up a Viewsonics VSIS-EU or Jensen Transformers ISO-MAX VRD-1FF
Go to your local RadioShack and try pick up this Audio Ground Loop Isolator Model: 270-054 | Catalog #: 270-054
There also Component Video Isolation Transformer out there how ever I never tested any which I'm sure a good one are not cheap, I try look at Audio Authority you maybe able get way with Passive or may need Active model or go for all one package Audio Authority 1184 HDTV Signal Hum Eliminator / DC Blocker or got money to burn then look at Jensen Transformers VBH-3RR
post #3395 of 3814
It's DirecTV. Looking at it again, this doesn't look like 'hum'. Did some further tests last night and found the following:
  • Component output from Direct box works
  • Cable from Direct box to PVR appears OK
  • PVR "pass-through" of component signal doesn't work

This morning: PVR isn't recognised by TME. it's like it doesn't exist. It powers up but there's nothing shown in the "source" box., even after a refresh. I think the PVR is deceased, unless anyone has any other suggestions :-(
post #3396 of 3814
Have you tried an uninstall/reinstall of the drivers? Might do nothing but sometimes it works. Any help from Hauppauge tech support?
post #3397 of 3814
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Originally Posted by garyalex67 View Post

Have you tried an uninstall/reinstall of the drivers? Might do nothing but sometimes it works. Any help from Hauppauge tech support?

Been there, but thanks for the suggestion. Haven't talked to their support. I'm thinking it isn't worth the effort.
post #3398 of 3814
Well, some time ago I had an issue with mine. The unit would power up and was available in TME but I couldn't view any channels. Rebooted, reinstalled, etc. The only fix was to remove the device from my set up. I contacted Hauppauge support. I was expecting a response with some suggestions to fix the problem. What I got were instructions to RMA the box for a replacement. Took about ten days to get the new unit. It was still under warranty. Just a thought.
post #3399 of 3814
Just tried the driver thing again out of interest. It tells me "no compatible hardware found" and won't go any further. This one's well out of warranty.
post #3400 of 3814
You've probably already done this but maybe try a different USB cable and port? If you connect it to a different machine is the device detected? If it were me I'd still contact tech support. Even though it's out of warranty they may have a solution for you. Good luck.
post #3401 of 3814
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Originally Posted by Mad Mac View Post

Just tried the driver thing again out of interest. It tells me "no compatible hardware found" and won't go any further. This one's well out of warranty.

So it more then warranty period of 2 years ?.
I guest if had get a new one I would just get newer HD-PVR 2
post #3402 of 3814
I wouldnt rule out the pwr cord.
didn't others who had issues with it say that the unit would power up but would show a 'device has been disconnected' warning?
post #3403 of 3814
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Originally Posted by nikknightt View Post

I wouldnt rule out the pwr cord.
didn't others who had issues with it say that the unit would power up but would show a 'device has been disconnected' warning?
When that usely happing it dosen't show power ligth or just seat there with Blinking Blue Light
Try some gizmo around your house may one of them in a 5V, 2A power transformer if not there go to Radio Shack has them for about $1 I belive the plug was 5.5mm.
Or order from Hauppauge Web Store rigth here http://store.hauppauge.com/accessories2.asp?product=power_supply_hdpvr
Edited by SHS - 9/30/12 at 10:26am
post #3404 of 3814
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Originally Posted by SHS View Post

When that usely happing it dosen't show power ligth or just seat there with Blinking Blue Light
Try some gizmo around your house may one of them in a 5V, 2A power transformer if not there go to Radio Shack has them for about $1 I belive the plug was 5.5mm.
Or order from Hauppauge Web Store rigth here http://store.hauppauge.com/accessories2.asp?product=power_supply_hdpvr

Mine did show a power light and it looked fine, but the pass through didn't work and the PC didn't see it anymore. A new power supply remedied it all. It's definitely worth trying another power supply, it definitely fixed mine. I do believe the Power supplies with the older units are starting to die a slow death.
post #3405 of 3814
FYI - The Hauppauge 1212 is currently on sale at $159 on Amazon.com. I am ordering a second one for my other room as I have been much impressed by the reliability of this device. I have already made about 800 recordings with no issues whatsoever.
post #3406 of 3814
Thanks for the heads up.

I see the HDPVR 2 is the same price. Correct me if I'm wrong but the back includes HDMI in and out (bypass out, but unit must be powered up), retains component in but via a supplied (?) dongle, and comes with Arcsoft "Showbiz" software which if I recall correctly some say is a little bit nicer in layout. Comments anyone?
post #3407 of 3814
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Originally Posted by tightrope View Post

FYI - The Hauppauge 1212 is currently on sale at $159 on Amazon.com. I am ordering a second one for my other room as I have been much impressed by the reliability of this device. I have already made about 800 recordings with no issues whatsoever.

I saw it at best buy today for $159 also.
post #3408 of 3814
Guys,

I am selling my HDPVR 1212. I don't need it anymore because I have Colossus and Whole Home DVR service from DirecTV and can record with Colossus from all three HD-DVRs.
If anybody interested send me PM.

Regards.
post #3409 of 3814
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Originally Posted by rebkell View Post

Mine did show a power light and it looked fine, but the pass through didn't work and the PC didn't see it anymore. A new power supply remedied it all. It's definitely worth trying another power supply, it definitely fixed mine. I do believe the Power supplies with the older units are starting to die a slow death.

Turned out that's what it was. Changed the power supply and all is again well. Thanks to all for their input and assistance.
post #3410 of 3814
Do those of you with power supplies that spontaneously go bad (I assume they haven't been dropped to a hard floor, for example) then check them with a multimeter to verify that they are faulty?

It could be that simply unplugging the device and allowing it to sit for a while, but then reconnecting later [which allows it to reset and boot up from a fresh, clean state] is what is remedying the situation and not so much the new power supply. I know on rare occasion my connection goes kaput and simply rebooting the box by unplugging its power input for a few minutes cures it. Just a thought.
post #3411 of 3814
What is the best capture software to use with this box. All I want to do is use it for recording off of my Direct TV DVR, in HD and off of some SVHS tapes. I had it hooked up about a year and a half ago, and the Arcsoft software was a nightmare. It was CONSTANTLY crashing, so I updated it to no avail, and gave up.

I have Video Redo for editing, and win Media Center on Windows 7 ultimate 64. Actually, I would prefer to keep it separate from Media Center. IOW, I do not have to control it from MC. Once I get the recordings on to a hard drive, I can play them anyway. I tried searching this thread, and thought it better to just ask. Any feedback would be great. smile.gif
post #3412 of 3814
I've been using the Arcsoft TotalMedia Extreme on 64 bit Windows 7 for a couple of years now with no problems. I also have DirecTV HDDVRs and use Video Redo for editing the .ts files TME creates. Why don't you post the problems you are having with TME and I'm sure someone in this forum can help you with them. I have downloaded hundred of shows from my DVRs and have never had TME crash.
post #3413 of 3814
Yeah, in my experience the problems are generally NOT TME related - it is almost always either the computer hardware, cables or the Hauppauge. The HD-PVR is buggy and temperamental - best to make sure it is restarted at least once a day. Some computers just do not seem to work well with it, even if the hardware specs meet the minimum requirements. I saw these problems personally with several older computers when I first got the HD-PVR, but after I picked up a new fairly low-end computer to dedicate just for video capture, the only problems I have seen with crashing or messed up captures are 100% obvious Hauppauge bugs.

After setting up the dedicated capture machine, I have captured and burned well over 3,000 movies without any TME problems other than the bug with TME2 that limited authoring to 100 minutes max (and ArcSoft finally created a fix for that).

And just to repeat a point - even after you get the right computer working with the HD-PVR, do NOT forget to restart the Hauppauge box at least once every day. It will save you a lot of grief!
post #3414 of 3814
I just received my PVR-1212 and so I'm a novice.

I'm using the supplied TME2, captured a movie without any problems, the Total Media Thearters 3 module "won't" play the file, the Total Media Studio will play the file and let me burn to disc. Plays well in my stand alone Panasonic Blue Ray player.

Question....

1. When I burn the movie (no editing done), it won't burn to a DVD-R disc, but burns to a DVD+R disc, I have two burners and various Verbatim, TDK, Taiyo, etc. discs and all the DVD-R discs won't burn, they go to 50%, then just an error that it won't burn. Any suggestions as to why -R won't burn and +R will?

2. Can I use TME2 to capture longer than 140 minutes with a bit rate of 5, and burn to a DVD+R DL disc? Anything special needed here?

3. I plan on burning to BLue Ray BD-R discs, have an Asus buner. I plan on using the TME2 for the capture to give me the TS file. My thoughts are that I can capture with max bit rate and burn the larger file to the larger BR-R disc.

I also plan on using TSmuxer to convert and IMGburn to burn.

Am I correct in the above assumptions for Blue Ray?

If I'm good to go with the BD-R and apps, can some one give me detailed instructions (settings) what I should do in TXmuxer and IMGburn to make this a painless experience?

What about the BR Certificate?


Thanks,


Bob P.
post #3415 of 3814
1. I had a problem similar to what you are describing a few years ago. Burning a DVD-R would not complete without an error. I solved the problem by installing the latest firmware upgrade on my DVD burner.
2. I assume you want to create an AVCHD disc. At some point of reducing the bit rate you will be better to create a DVD instead of an AVCHD disc. I never set the bit rate below 9 for AVCHD discs. You can get more on an AVCHD disc if you set your 1212 to capature at a variable instead of fixed bit rate.
3. I can't help you with TSmuxer because I use MultiAVCHD and IMGburn to create AVCHD or Blu Ray discs. When I want to create a blu ray disc, I always set the bit rate to max. MultiAVCHD creates all the directories necessary for a blu ray disc including the Certificate directory. I would guess that TSmuxer does the same.
post #3416 of 3814
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Originally Posted by bpratt View Post

1. I had a problem similar to what you are describing a few years ago. Burning a DVD-R would not complete without an error. I solved the problem by installing the latest firmware upgrade on my DVD burner.
2. I assume you want to create an AVCHD disc. At some point of reducing the bit rate you will be better to create a DVD instead of an AVCHD disc. I never set the bit rate below 9 for AVCHD discs. You can get more on an AVCHD disc if you set your 1212 to capature at a variable instead of fixed bit rate.
3. I can't help you with TSmuxer because I use MultiAVCHD and IMGburn to create AVCHD or Blu Ray discs. When I want to create a blu ray disc, I always set the bit rate to max. MultiAVCHD creates all the directories necessary for a blu ray disc including the Certificate directory. I would guess that TSmuxer does the same.

Thanks for the reply.

1. I have 2, Samsung 203B drives and have the latest firmware updates, but these are older drives so maybe they just don't have the right capability. I have a new Asus BR writer coming today.

2. Do you know if TME2 will write to DVD+R "DL" discs, these discs would increase my capacity where I could use higher bit rates.

3. I always thought that variable bit rate is a compromise that would give bad results, am I wrong?

4. I have no problems trying MultiAVCHD, I'm just starting out trying to burn BR discs. Any suggestions on to what settings I should use with it to make a smaller learning curve.
post #3417 of 3814
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Originally Posted by FussyBob View Post

1. When I burn the movie (no editing done), it won't burn to a DVD-R disc, but burns to a DVD+R disc, I have two burners and various Verbatim, TDK, Taiyo, etc. discs and all the DVD-R discs won't burn, they go to 50%, then just an error that it won't burn. Any suggestions as to why -R won't burn and +R will?
2. Can I use TME2 to capture longer than 140 minutes with a bit rate of 5, and burn to a DVD+R DL disc? Anything special needed here?
3. I plan on burning to BLue Ray BD-R discs, have an Asus buner. I plan on using the TME2 for the capture to give me the TS file. My thoughts are that I can capture with max bit rate and burn the larger file to the larger BR-R disc.
I also plan on using TSmuxer to convert and IMGburn to burn.
Am I correct in the above assumptions for Blue Ray?

1. Don't know what the issue is for #1. I assume your burner typically works fine with -R media? What app are you using to burn? Whatever you use it needs to be a udf 2.5 profile disc.
The way you wrote that, Does it burn properly after the TS file is edited?

2. I use TME to capture up to 3-4 hrs at a time for football games. You can author & burn up to a 7.75gb TS file to a DL layer disc.
I recommend capturing 1min sample files at different bit rates to estimate what your final file size will be. Multiply the 1min file size by 100min (for 1.40hr) then divide by 1024 to estimate total size.
See my post #2761 on page 93 for some estimated bitrates per duration & destination disc. You should be able to capture 720p at around 12.0vr for a DL disc.

3. Single layer BD blanks can hold up to 23gb of data. SO you should be able to author multiple captures to a disc.

Just use tsmuxer to mux into Blu-Ray format and burn with IMGburn.
post #3418 of 3814
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Originally Posted by nikknightt View Post

1. Don't know what the issue is for #1. I assume your burner typically works fine with -R media? What app are you using to burn? Whatever you use it needs to be a udf 2.5 profile disc.
The way you wrote that, Does it burn properly after the TS file is edited?
2. I use TME to capture up to 3-4 hrs at a time for football games. You can author & burn up to a 7.75gb TS file to a DL layer disc.
I recommend capturing 1min sample files at different bit rates to estimate what your final file size will be. Multiply the 1min file size by 100min (for 1.40hr) then divide by 1024 to estimate total size.
See my post #2761 on page 93 for some estimated bitrates per duration & destination disc. You should be able to capture 720p at around 12.0vr for a DL disc.
3. Single layer BD blanks can hold up to 23gb of data. SO you should be able to author multiple captures to a disc.
Just use tsmuxer to mux into Blu-Ray format and burn with IMGburn.

1. The problem with burning to -R discs was with TME2. Seeing that +R worked with TME2 I just continued on. I will try some -R discs with IMGburn using the same file that failed with TME2.

2. That's good news that I will be able to record to DL discs with TME2. I will calculate the time.

3. Can you give me specific instructions and settings that I should use with tsmuxer and IMGburn.

Such as, do I use the TME captured TS file in tsmuxer and what settings in tsmuxer do I set to output to the BR format file, plus how do I add the BR Certificate and any other folders.


Thanks,


Bob P.
post #3419 of 3814
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Originally Posted by FussyBob View Post

1. The problem with burning to -R discs was with TME2. Seeing that +R worked with TME2 I just continued on. I will try some -R discs with IMGburn using the same file that failed with TME2.
2. That's good news that I will be able to record to DL discs with TME2. I will calculate the time.
3. Can you give me specific instructions and settings that I should use with tsmuxer and IMGburn.
Such as, do I use the TME captured TS file in tsmuxer and what settings in tsmuxer do I set to output to the BR format file, plus how do I add the BR Certificate and any other folders.
Thanks,
Bob P.

If you would like to try MultiAVCHD which is a free program, download and install it on your computer. Attached is a zip file that contains instructions I use to create an AVCHD or Blu-Ray disc and the MultiAVCHD.ini. file I use. I have Multiavchd installed in D:\downloads\avchd\multiavchd. After you install MultiAVCHD, save the multiavchd.ini file and copy my file in its place. Then you will need to edit my file and change the references to C: and D: paths to match your original ini file.

multiAVCHD.zip 91k .zip file
post #3420 of 3814
OK, tell me if I'm wrong so far with burning a TME2 captured TS file of a DirecTV show to BD.

1. Capture TS file with TME2

2. With TSmuxer
- add the TS file to the Input window, output to Blue Ray. This generates a BDMV folder (with many various sub-folders) and a Certificate folder.

3. With IMGburn
- Select files/folders to disc mode.
- Add the BDMV and Certificate folders (do I leave the other various sub-folders in the BDMV folder, or do all folders need to be in the root dir?) to the Source area.
- Click Calculator Icon.
- The IMGburn detects that I want to burn BD and select YES.
- Add a Volume Label
- Click the Burn button.

And hopefully that will get me a Blue Ray disc that will work with my stand alone BR player.

If anything above is completely wrong please correct me.


Thanks,


Bob P.
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