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post #3751 of 3814
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Originally Posted by mtallent View Post

I have tried it once and I think I like it better so far, seems more responsive.

Mike T

I just checked it out on the link..

http://www.hauppauge.com/capture/

I have the older hdpvr model 1212. the info from hauppauge says limited support for hdpvr... how limited?
anyone know what the differences between what functions are supported on hdpvr2 vs the older hdpvr?

I may try it out just to see if it solves the audio sync issues, but I don't want to install it and then find out the 5.1 channel audio is blocked for hdpvr etc.

Anyone have any 1st hand experiences with this software and an hdpvr?
thx
post #3752 of 3814
I've been using an older version for a while on my hdpvr 1212 and I like it better than TME. The only thing I don't like is there is no way to set it to stop recording after a set time like there is in TME. Download it and try it. If you don't like it you can always continue using TME. I don't know the answer to your 5.1 audio question.
post #3753 of 3814
OK, I downloaded the latest version of Hauppauge capture and it appears the only thing that is not supported for the HDPVR is "StreamEez" what ever that is. When I select StreamEez it tells me that I need an HDPVR2 or StreamEez or Colossus in order to use StreamEez.
post #3754 of 3814
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Originally Posted by bpratt View Post

OK, I downloaded the latest version of Hauppauge capture and it appears the only thing that is not supported for the HDPVR is "StreamEez" what ever that is. When I select StreamEez it tells me that I need an HDPVR2 or StreamEez or Colossus in order to use StreamEez.
Yes that true also you can't record 5.1 audio on any off them any way with that capture tool best stick with TME or Showbiz
post #3755 of 3814
I just switched around my setup..
HTPC HDMI OUTPUT to HDFURY3 HDMI IN, HDFURY3 COMPONENT OUT and OPTICAL OUT to DENON COMPONENT IN and OPTICAL IN, DENON ZONE 2 COMPONENT OUT and ZONE2 OPTICAL out to HAUPPAUGE HDPVR COMPONENT INPUT and OPTICAL INPUT. HAUPPAUGE HDPVR USB2 OUT to AMD THUBAN USB IN. THUBAN HDMI OUT to DENON ZONE 1 HDMI IN...

It seems to work this way. I don't know why.. The denon is now processing the video / audio from the hdfury and routing it thru zone2.. I'm feeding zone 2 video / audio from denon into the HDPVR.. Doing it this way allows me to feed the hdmi from the amd system back into zone 1 of the denon.. (it seems to work.. no more lip sync issues so far)

update:
just ran it like this all nite.. No audio lag.. I tried making several test recordings... (just news stuff.. good for testing cause of the talking heads..lol)
So far.. so good.

As for the root cause, not sure.. The only difference is that I'm connecting the hdfury3 component video / optical outputs to the Denon, and then routing that out the zone2 optical output / component video output to the Hauppauge. For some reason, the Hauppauge does not suffer from the audio sync issue when getting the video / audio from the denon..

I probably have a dip switch setting on the hdfury3 incorrect... (not sure) The video / audio processor in the denon is probably more robust than in the hauppauge./ pc software. All I know is that the hauppauge video drifts out of sync with audio when hdfury3 component video/ optical outputs are connected direct to the hauppauge 1212.

When I connect the hdfury3 component video out / optical out direct to the Denon component / optical inputs, and route it out the zone2 component out / optical out to the hauppauge it works without lag. I sat and watched it do this.. it starts out in sync, then the video starts to lag behind audio.. the delay slowly grows up to about 1/2 second over a 7-10 minute time range.. then after that the the picture jerks and its back in sync again... and then the process repeats.. If I manualy pause WMC playback on the HTPC, when I start it the lag delay is gone,but drifts back out...

I seen the prior post about the new Capture software not supporting Dolby 5.1 audio (bummer) The only reason Im interested in using the hauppauge is for 1080i / dd 5.1 audio.(thats what makes it special) With the advent of Dolby True theater / dts master audio, even good ole DD 5.1 is getting a bit primative...
I am annoyed at the difficulty to make this stuff work halfway right..

Even when I do get an in sync recording, its still a little jerky when I play back the recordings on media center.. (varies with playback software.. ironically WMP seems to playback the recording smooth)
Edited by NCoastTweaker - 11/18/13 at 7:42am
post #3756 of 3814
[quote name="bpratt" url="/t/1055232/hauppauge-hdpvr-1212-owners-thread/3750#post_23960315 The only thing I don't like is there is no way to set it to stop recording after a set time like there is in TME. ..[/quote]

The latest version will do this.
post #3757 of 3814
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Originally Posted by SHS View Post

Yes that true also you can't record 5.1 audio on any off them any way with that capture tool best stick with TME or Showbiz


The latest HC can record 5.1 (although I'm using a 1512.)
post #3758 of 3814
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Originally Posted by JimLely View Post

The latest HC can record 5.1 (although I'm using a 1512.)
That funny there no option to tell the Hauppauge Capture Tool to do that the option it MP3 only they even removed AAC option (I'm using a 1512 to).
post #3759 of 3814
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Originally Posted by SHS View Post

That funny there no option to tell the Hauppauge Capture Tool to do that the option it MP3 only they even removed AAC option (I'm using a 1512 to).
Never mind I see it work but I kind of surprise it wasn't work a few ver back
post #3760 of 3814
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Originally Posted by JimLely View Post

[quote name="bpratt" url="/t/1055232/hauppauge-hdpvr-1212-owners-thread/3750#post_23960315 The only thing I don't like is there is no way to set it to stop recording after a set time like there is in TME. ..

The latest version will do this.[/quote]

I though I had the latest version, but I can't find and option to stop recording after a period of time. I have version 31248 but I see a Beta version 31312. Is that the version that allows you to stop recording after a specific time period?
post #3761 of 3814
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Originally Posted by bpratt View Post

The latest version will do this.

I though I had the latest version, but I can't find and option to stop recording after a period of time. I have version 31248 but I see a Beta version 31312. Is that the version that allows you to stop recording after a specific time period?[/quote]

That (31248) is the version. I'm not able to check right now but I think the timer is next to the "device name."
post #3762 of 3814
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Originally Posted by JimLely View Post

I though I had the latest version, but I can't find and option to stop recording after a period of time. I have version 31248 but I see a Beta version 31312. Is that the version that allows you to stop recording after a specific time period?
That (31248) is the version. I'm not able to check right now but I think the timer is next to the "device name."[/quote]

According to SHS photo it's right under the record button.

A little confused, Does the new HC tool record AC3? Is it better to use it over TME?
post #3763 of 3814
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Originally Posted by nikknightt View Post

That (31248) is the version. I'm not able to check right now but I think the timer is next to the "device name."

According to SHS photo it's right under the record button.

A little confused, Does the new HC tool record AC3? Is it better to use it over TME?

I pref the HC tool over the TME or Showbiz as my PC Game recoder.
It dose just be sure to turn OFF the microphone input set as none other then that if it ON it will over ride AC3 (Dolby Digital) ops that guest that make me idiot rolleyes.gif .
post #3764 of 3814
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Originally Posted by nikknightt View Post

That (31248) is the version. I'm not able to check right now but I think the timer is next to the "device name."

According to SHS photo it's right under the record button.

A little confused, Does the new HC tool record AC3? Is it better to use it over TME?[/quote]


It records ac3 if the input is ac3 (on my 1512). One advantage of TME over HC is that TME tells you what the incoming audio is (dolby 5.1, AAC, etc) but HC does not.
post #3765 of 3814
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Originally Posted by JimLely View Post

It records ac3 if the input is ac3 (on my 1512). One advantage of TME over HC is that TME tells you what the incoming audio is (dolby 5.1, AAC, etc) but HC does not.
Yup that true that about advantage of TME and Showbiz have over HC
post #3766 of 3814
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Originally Posted by SHS View Post

Yup that true that about advantage of TME and Showbiz have over HC

So if I understand you guys correctly, The only thing better about TME is that is shows the incoming audio codec.
Everything I capture is from my DVR which always outputs AC3. (no prob there)

HC doesn't offer any better capturing quality does it? Sounds like it's not 'better' than TME if you're only capturing and creating HD files not destined for streaming or uploading.. ?
post #3767 of 3814
Hello all, I have a problem with my HDPVR 2.

The problem occurs because I record a movie of my STB.
Once completed movie recording with hdpvr2 on my computer. Running time displayed is not the reality.
For example, the movie has a duration of 1 hour 45 min.
The information you TS file can be 10 seconds, 12 minutes, 42 minutes. But it has yet been encoded in full even the size of the TS file confirms this. I can't Watch movie completly., it has a problem encoding.

I noticed that the problem occurs when I encode in 5.1 audio (with HDMI cable or optical).
If I'm 2 audio channels it has to be looked ok but I'm still testing.

All my drivers are up to date.
I encodes 1280x720p i'm using Hauppauge Capture program.
Does someone can help me fix the problem because it makes my record can not read. See information below TS file yet I encoded 8Mbit per sec. Movie supposed to be 1 hour 45 min!!!
I tried VideoReDo but I GET TIRED always the same mistake at the same time watch below.
I changed the size of the buffer and video audi 4096, nothing has changed.
I try tsMuxer, and several Tsdoctor to nothing to do, is my HDPVR2 box that is broken?

VIDEOREDO SCREEN SHOT
post #3768 of 3814
How many of you keep your source files after you've done something with them? I don't use this to steal anything, just use it in large part because of a combination of the fact the hard drive on DVRs seem to fail a lot, plus I have busy times of the year and slack times of the year, and tend to go back and watch a bunch of things I recorded during the summer. I use Handbrake to convert and store, but every once in a while I have found that I was converting things wrong, etc. I had a bunch of things that didn't actually convert right, but didn't catch it for months. Do you hang onto the .ts files or the like just in case you had conversion errors, or do you discard them as soon as you've converted the file to something more watchable and permanent?
post #3769 of 3814
After I convert I quickly check out the converted file, and then delete the original. I used to hold onto the converted shows for a long time, but I find that if I haven't watched the converted video within a few months, I delete it. You can stream almost anything within a year of it airing these days, and it is getting better. I used to time shift shows with my VCR, then with a huge hard drive in my DVR, but as streaming evolves it just doesn't seem worth holding onto (or even making) my recordings any more.
post #3770 of 3814
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Originally Posted by JohnJ9 View Post

How many of you keep your source files after you've done something with them? I don't use this to steal anything, just use it in large part because of a combination of the fact the hard drive on DVRs seem to fail a lot, plus I have busy times of the year and slack times of the year, and tend to go back and watch a bunch of things I recorded during the summer. I use Handbrake to convert and store, but every once in a while I have found that I was converting things wrong, etc. I had a bunch of things that didn't actually convert right, but didn't catch it for months. Do you hang onto the .ts files or the like just in case you had conversion errors, or do you discard them as soon as you've converted the file to something more watchable and permanent?

Do you convert to make the files smaller? I use the .ts files to create discs or watch them as is. No converting needed.
post #3771 of 3814
My main use is to record movies to take on vacations. I usually compress them and convert to 480p to save space. I delete them as soon as I have watched them.
post #3772 of 3814
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just use it in large part because of a combination of the fact the hard drive on DVRs seem to fail a lot

If your having a lot of DVR hard drive failures, I would check for too much heat. A properly cooled drive should last many years. I currently have a ReplayTV with a 16 year old disk, a Tivo with a 10 year old disk, and a DirecTV HR21 with a 7 year old drive. I've been using DVRs since 1997 and have never had a disk fail, but I ensure everything is kept cool.
Edited by bpratt - 2/28/14 at 2:40pm
post #3773 of 3814

Hello,
I'm trying to capture the signal from the cable TV box I have with a Hauppauge HD PVR, but no success so far.

 

Here is the box I have:

 

[img]http://i.imgur.com/EDFHgsk.png[/img]

 

And here is my connection, a Scart to Composite video, from the box to the HD PVR. What's wrong?

 

[img]http://i.imgur.com/8GwKu0Q.jpg[/img]

post #3774 of 3814
What capture software are you running on your PC. You can use TotalMedia Extreme or I prefer the new Hauppauge Capture program. You must tell the program you are using the composite connection in the front, because the default is component.
post #3775 of 3814
Has anybody tried doing a video capture with Nero Video 14?

I had no problems doing it with Nero Video 12, but the 2014 version is not receiving any video information, even though it not only recognizes the Hauppauge driver but validates that it makes a connection with the device.

I noticed that the newest Hauppauge software had the same "problem" - until I saw that the device input selector on the software was set to Composite, whereas I was using Component. When I switched it to Component, the capture worked. Is there a way to get Nero Video 14 to tell the Hauppauge box to use the component input as its source?
post #3776 of 3814
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Originally Posted by bpratt View Post

What capture software are you running on your PC. You can use TotalMedia Extreme or I prefer the new Hauppauge Capture program. You must tell the program you are using the composite connection in the front, because the default is component.

Do you just like the interface better on the Hauppauge App or does it also have better functionality?
post #3777 of 3814
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Originally Posted by nikknightt View Post

Do you just like the interface better on the Hauppauge App or does it also have better functionality?

Both. Plus the Hauppauge Capture program has a much faster interface with no delays.
post #3778 of 3814
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Originally Posted by bpratt View Post

Both. Plus the Hauppauge Capture program has a much faster interface with no delays.

I just tested the Hauppauge Cap App.. It puts twice the load on my cpu (even with no preview) which makes my poor little laptop run hotter..
The resulting files don't seem any different so I think I'll stick with TME.
post #3779 of 3814
I recently upgraded from the 1212 to the HD PVR Rocket and have some issues. This unit allows you to capture up to 18megs as opposed to the 13.5 I had before. I've been using that for some rare D-VHS recordings I had sitting around. The problem is I can't get the files to open in TME (I guess because of the higher bitrate). I also have TMPGEnc Authoring Works 5, and when I try to import the .ts files into it I get an error that there is "No valid video title in the ts file". They play just fine, but like snipes post above I can't edit them in VideoRedo either. It will let me edit the file, but when it comes time to save the changes it hangs at a random point in each one and won't go farther.

EDIT: After playing around with it I finally seem to have identified one variable. I'm using the new Hauppauge Capture program. On a recent transfer from D-VHS I set the recording file name and the amount of time it needed to record and hit "start". It captured the video up until the 2:30 I had set, and then stopped on its' own. That file will open fine in TMPGEnc Authoring Works, which allows me to make edits, etc and burn it to disc. The other recordings I named, but I just started and stopped my recording MANUALLY. It appears when capture the Hauppauge Capture program isn't closing the file properly if you manually stop the recording.

Anyone have any ideas on how I could repair these files and make them importable? I really hate to have to capture them all over again..
post #3780 of 3814
I was able to solve my importing problem. I used the convert to mp4 option on the problematic files and TMPG takes them perfectly!
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