Apex DT502 - Page 12

Sounds good. I have what's probably a similar one in my attic and it works really well. I had to move it to a fiberboard gable side after I had a metal roof installed, actually works better than when the previous owner had it pointing through the cedar shingle roof (rain); I think they were being cheap with cable as it had flat lead that was barely long enough, I never could rotate it exactly where it needed to be either the cable was so tight. With the relo I changed to coax adapter at the antenna and coax.

I used this site, nice graph and can tune for trees, height, etc.: http://www.antennaweb.org/default.aspx
I'll have to check out that TVfool sometime.

That sounds like WIWN. Tvfool for Milwaukee:
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3de779a612f63ff0

Maybe it's overload, or maybe it's this from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WIWN: If you have maxed out the signal strength indicator, there will be little difference in strength.

The Apex that Trip in Va is using at home for WBRA, RF3, is more sensitive than his Zenith DTT900 for VHF-low.
Edited by rabbit73 - 8/31/12 at 6:17pm

It was saved by holl_ands:
CECB Feature List
http://imageevent.com/holl_ands/files/ota

Excellent, thanks! Doesn't look exactly the same, rather a vastly improved DIY version as if he used it for a template; plus I get a bonus set of other interesting and useful documents. Man where was this doc when I needed it? . I see some models that I didn't know had multi-day EPGs, of course they may have been long gone by the time I needed to burn some CECB coupons. I remember a group of us AVSers didn't know about TRT (one model looking to be the ultimate box on paper) until a week or so after the program expired .

As I suspected the DT502 appears ("?") to use a different tuner than the DT250s; possibly the brain (SoC) too. Also note the Pass Thru difference (DT250A) which is most likely done in the tuner module (integration - otherwise it would have to connector to an external switch then to the tuner). I would think Samsung makes a good tuner. Hmmm, maybe overload like you suggested if everything is working properly; sounds to have good sensitivity in the VHF low band and RF 5 is the only channel he has in that band.

I didn't understand the "...suggesting a challenge to WIWN in some way." Some way?

My remote control for the Apex DT502 is broken. The box is useless without it. Can I get a universal remote? Or am I screwed and have to buy a whole new unit? The remotes are no longer for sale on the internet.

Some of the ALL-IN-ONE R/C devices will control MOST of the CECB boxes, as I responded to a similar problem for a CM7000/CM7001:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1457527/channel-master-cm-7001-remote-control-code-for-universal-remote

Be sure to check for APEX CECB (Converter Box) box support in the User Manual for any desired R/C device.

I do see used remotes for the Apex listed on eBay regularly.

I had asked in forums in the past if there is a remote code for universal remotes to work the Apex, but I didn't get any replies.

When these boxes die, the remotes usually end up on eBay.
I have one dead box, so I have a spare remote for a second box.

Out of the box, my Apex R/C barely worked at all, a common complaint. So I would advise against a USED one.

I see Apex DTV Converter Boxes in the manuals for the fol. two inexpensive R/C units:
http://www.oneforall.com/support/manual [Same R/C's and manual link cited in post #336 above]
FYI: Most Converter Box codes are also found in the Harmony R/C database, if you already have one.

All-In-One OARH04G 4-Device R/C ($12) supports most CECB's (called DTV CONVERTERS), but does NOT support LEARNING from another R/C. PS: Amazon et. al. incorrectly claim that this R/C supports LEARNING....it does NOT:
http://www.oneforall.com/uploads/support/628ee2d0046b922840ac6ebf61b50703.pdf

All-In-One OARC05G 5-Device R/C ($17) adds ability for LEARNING from another R/C, something that can be of value even for "supported" devices, since they always seem to leave out some of the less frequently used buttons:
http://www.oneforall.com/uploads/support/a48b2139fd2522b897761877f8f02750.pdf

Also (there may be more that support CECB's, aka DTV Converter):
All-In-One OARN08G 8-Device R/C ($18-25) with LEARNING:
http://www.oneforall.com/uploads/support/ac9dea51bde250afae0394cdcd442c48.pdf
Edited by holl_ands - 4/30/13 at 6:47pm