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Getting kicked out of games, but not the PSN

post #1 of 26
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I have a similar problem to others regarding staying connected to PS3 games, but unlike those others, when I lose connection to a game, I stay online and logged into the PSN.

On Rock Band, for example, I get "The Leader has Left" about 8 times out of 10 (or simultaneous disconnects from the other players). I get disconnected on Burnout Paradise, too. Even World of Warcraft, a PC game, kicks me out from time to time.

But, again, my Internet connection remains just fine, and I say connected to the PSN.

I've done the static IP thing on the PS3. I've set it to DMZ. I've turned off SSID broadcasting. Media Sharing is off. I've tried different channels on the router. My signal strength is 82%, but I even bought a wireless extender that brought it to 100%. No change.

The only difference is that I recently moved and now have the 6M+ Comcast package.

Could it be the modem? If the modem was dropping packets, though, wouldn't my entire internet connection go down?

Just how can I get disconnected from games but not the internet?

This is very frustrating, but this is also the forum with the smartest people, so hopefully someone has a suggestion or two that I haven't tried yet. Thanks!
post #2 of 26
I get kicked out from the EA server while playing FIFA 2008. A lot lately.
Like you, only the game server but not from the PSN.
post #3 of 26
Are you using a bluetooth headset? Since the 2.40/2.41/2.42 updates some of us have had this problem when our BT headsets are on. In Burnout Paradise I get kicked out of the online session I am in, but am still connected to PSN. Sometimes it kicks me from PSN completely.
post #4 of 26
Sounds like Game server issues
post #5 of 26
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I'm not using a headset.

It coincidentally started right around the time I moved and switched to Comcast (from a local terrestrial wireless outfit) and the 2.41/2.42 update.

So I can't pinpoint anything. I did a line test at dslreports, and it looks good. The download speeds are blazing fast (8mbps to 19mbps). Latency is low. All seems good.

World of Warcraft also kicks me out occasionally, so it's probably not just a PS3 thing. I've changed so many router settings on my WRT54G that I could probably get a job as an apps person there.

It's just very frustrating. If the internet would go down, too, during these disconnections, then that would actually be an easier problem to isolate. ARGH.
post #6 of 26
It's either the host or server issues.

I only really ever had that problem when playing COD4 but is now becoming a random occurrence when playing Battlefield: Bad Company but that's because of the server maintenance that they do.
post #7 of 26
but you say you were kicked from WoW on the PC? That would make me think its something else entirely...such as the modem like you suggested.
post #8 of 26
Well, speaking from experience, LINKSYS routers tend to flood easily causing it to reboot itself.

That could be the reason why you're getting kicked off.
post #9 of 26
How do you know (exactly) that you're not getting packet loss? Do you have to "sign-in" to actually use the internet? How do you know you're getting kicked from the internet?

Packet loss while surfing the net at times may be almost impossible to catch. But it may explain why you're getting kicked from servers, PS3 related or not.

I see you said you have a 6M+ Comcast cable modem package. But you tested speeds up to 19Mbps. Something's not adding up.
post #10 of 26
You might want to check your hardware there is nothing wrong with the PS3 connection its very rare that something is only wrong only your router double check that.....
post #11 of 26
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Originally Posted by jocktheglide View Post

You might want to check your hardware there is nothing wrong with the PS3 connection its very rare that something is only wrong only your router double check that.....

I think your missing some periods and comma's
post #12 of 26
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I think your missing some periods and comma's

post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by Dball2323 View Post


I see you said you have a 6M+ Comcast cable modem package. But you tested speeds up to 19Mbps. Something's not adding up.

I'm paying for the 6M package, but the dslreports speed test has given me results up to 19M. I typically get about 8M.

I think I'm gonna ask for a new modem. The problems happened right when I moved, so the only variable that changed was the new ISP.
post #14 of 26
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While playing World of Warcraft last night, I noticed the latency occasionally going way up--to around 1500ms. Then it would go back and stay at around 150ms for a while, then go back up. 150 even seems higher than I think it should be.

My guess is that if the latency becomes too big, the PS3 game servers probably interpret the lack of response as a disconnection on the other end. The PSN, though, doesn't care, and that's why I still stay connected to it.

That's my guess. Comcast is coming out tomorrow to check the line.
post #15 of 26
When you do an Internet Connection test what is your NAT type?

It should be NAT 2, if it's NAT 3 that's your problem.

But since you did all the static IP stuff, you might be ok in that aspect.

You might want find out what ports the games you're playing operate on and open them up. Your firewall could be kicking you out.
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by DarrellG View Post

When you do an Internet Connection test what is your NAT type?

It should be NAT 2, if it's NAT 3 that's your problem.

But since you did all the static IP stuff, you might be ok in that aspect.

You might want find out what ports the games you're playing operate on and open them up. Your firewall could be kicking you out.

NAT 2 with the PS3 set as DMZ, so all ports are open.
post #17 of 26
I bet it's your modem.

If it was just your PS3, that's one thing. If it's your PS3 and PC, that's another.

What's your router? How are you connecting the PS3 and PC to the router? I would get the modem replaced, just to rule that out, since it was the new factor added to your setup that you started experiencing these problems.
post #18 of 26
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I bet it's your modem.

If it was just your PS3, that's one thing. If it's your PS3 and PC, that's another.

What's your router? How are you connecting the PS3 and PC to the router? I would get the modem replaced, just to rule that out, since it was the new factor added to your setup that you started experiencing these problems.

It's a Linksys WRt54g, rev.3, with latest firmware. PC connects directly to the router--PS3 wirelessly.

World of Warcraft disconnects much less often than the PS3 games. I can barely get through one online Rock Band song without a disconnect. WOW can go as long as a half and hour or more before disconnecting from the server.

Comcast has done their remote tests while I'm on the phone with them, and they insist the modem looks good. But they're coming out to check the outside line, so I'll have them do a test swap of the modem, too.

SOMETHING is causing the unusually high spikes of latency, and that's got to be the problem, I think.
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by KingShorty View Post

Well, speaking from experience, LINKSYS routers tend to flood easily causing it to reboot itself.

That could be the reason why you're getting kicked off.

How do you prevent/combat this?

Brandon
post #20 of 26
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The Comcast guy came out today--he said all his tests showed everything on their end working great (of course. ). I wasn't home, but convinced him to swap out the modem just to rule it out. I'll see what happens when I get home tonight.
post #21 of 26
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The Comcast guy came out today--he said all his tests showed everything on their end working great (of course. ). I wasn't home, but convinced him to swap out the modem just to rule it out. I'll see what happens when I get home tonight.

I had an issue with my Comcast modem years ago (actually, I think at the time, the cable company was owned by a different company). I was experiencing random disconnects (if I recall, my network said that I was still connected) from games.

It went on for a month or so, and I had talked to several tech support people that kept telling me that nothing was wrong. They finally sent out a tech person to come take a look at it. He told me, without even looking at the problem, that the issue was the modem. He swapped it out, and it resolved my issues.

I'm betting that this will resolve your issues as well.
post #22 of 26
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Originally Posted by ppshooky View Post

I had an issue with my Comcast modem years ago (actually, I think at the time, was owned by a different company). I was experience random disconnects (if I recall, my network said that I was still connected) from games.

It went on for a month or so, and I had talked to several tech support people that kept telling me that nothing was wrong. They finally sent out a tech person to come take a look at it. He told me, without even looking at the problem, that the issue was the modem. He swapped it out, and it resolved my issues.

I'm betting that this will resolve your issues as well.

Cool. I hope so.
post #23 of 26
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UPDATE for those scoring at home...

It seems like it was the modem. Knock on plastic, but I haven't been disconnected in a game or match since the modem was replaced.
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by jrinck View Post

UPDATE for those scoring at home...

It seems like it was the modem. Knock on plastic, but I haven't been disconnected in a game or match since the modem was replaced.

Good to hear!

I'll take a gander and bet your previous modem was a Motorola Surf Board?

Seems like their modems are hit and miss in terms of getting a working product.
post #25 of 26
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Originally Posted by ppshooky View Post

Good to hear!

I'll take a gander and bet your previous modem was a Motorola Surf Board?

Seems like their modems are hit and miss in terms of getting a working product.

I'm not sure what model it was, but it was/is black, with the four or five lights in a vertical row on the front. It has no reset button or power switch, just a standby button on the top that was essentially useless.
post #26 of 26
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Originally Posted by jrinck View Post

I'm not sure what model it was, but it was/is black, with the four or five lights in a vertical row on the front. It has no reset button or power switch, just a standby button on the top that was essentially useless.

Model is irrelevant, I have this strong belief that all Motorola products suck. The modem I had in my final year of college was 6 years ago.
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