Originally Posted by zicoz
Can you play HD-DVDs/BRs disks on a Linux computer yet? And no ripping and converting is not an option.
In the original thread before the forum reset, there were many posts re: the BluRay issue.
I will attempt to summarize.
First, there are a LOT of threads and posts like this in the Win forumhttp://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ht=throw+towel
that demonstrate that BluRay disk playback on Win is not easy, bug free, or worth the effort for lots of people, either. The DRM/protected video/audio baloney needed to play BluRay discs decreases reliability, increases cost due to updated video and motherboards needed, and uses more CPU and RAM.
And no, if you can't count ripping on Linux, then you can't count AnyDVD on Windows- AnyDVD costs more money, and all its doing is "ripping" in realtime.
Second, lots of Win people rely on/prefer ripping BluRay disks to servers rather than use the discs directly. Linux can do this with DVD Fab HD Decypter and play the movie from the rip without conversion with mplayer.
In time, probably sooner than later, Linux media players will be able to handle BD discs directly like AnyDVD, since one piece of software has done it, then it can be replicated/reverse engineered.
Third, lots of people don't care about BluRay, don't want the DRM, and are content with upscaled DVD:http://entertainment.slashdot.org/ar.../08/07/1811259http://www.abiresearch.com/press/120...ayer+Purchases
"Blame Hollyweird's obsession with DRM protection on their movies for that. The Blu-ray players have to do a load of self-authentication against internal keys, check for signs of tampering, and load the goddamn stupid JVM before you can view your movie.
*curses whoever thought a JVM was a good idea for an embedded consumer device*
The delay from pressing the 'on' button to getting something on the screen was a big issue when I was working with a certain consumer electronics company on the firmware, but it was very difficult to reduce it further because of all the required DRM/anti-tampering crap. The actual embedded kernel boots very quickly."
"90 seconds? that's a short one.
I had just came from a service call with a client. his Sony 300B Bluray player took 6 minutes from on to being able to use the menu on the Disc for "vantage point" that is fricking insane.
I have another client that stopped buying Blu Ray discs because his player does not give enough of a quality difference to overshadow his Denon DVD player that has a decent quality scaler attached to it. (decent quality means $1100.00 or more)
I am right there in the trenches with users that have >108" screens and 1080p projectors sitting on leather seating that costs more t han Most slashdotters complete AV setup. ($12,000 for a theater chair is high end btw) these people pay over $10,000 for their speakers and THEY dont see any worth in blu ray."
"A lot of the problem comes from the fact that Blu-ray quality quite often sucks. This has nothing to do with the format, and everything to do with the mastering process. I have seen countless Blu-rays that hardly have enough detail to justify a DVD release, let alone anything in HD; some examples include Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Cowboy Bebop: The Movie, the latter of which was done as a film transfer... and had dirt all over the film and jittered throughout the entire movie, along with the film grain, which seemed completely out of place for an animated feature.
Its difficult to market a new format with better quality when in reality a large number of the discs are produced so badly that there's no reason to get them in place of a DVD."
"Then everyone watched Live Free or Die Hard (SD-DVD). Nobody said anything for the entire duration of the film. It looked superb. At the end, I commented "Yeah, it's a shame it isn't currently available on HD DVD" at which point my wife and my mother both turned to me and said "Wait, that wasn't HD?"
To me, I could see it wasn't. But I also appreciated why they thought it was. It looked great."