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post #1201 of 6171
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Originally Posted by hiteshkb View Post

a question for the gurus of AVS...

I'm planning on pulling the trigger on the 58PZ800U in a month or so with a panny BD35. I'm thinking of setting up my environment as follows:

BR Player ---> Panny TV (via HDMI)
Dish HDDVR ----> Panny TV (via HDMI)
Panny TV ---> Onkyo Receiver (via Digital Optical Audio cable)

I want to send all the sound through to my receiver. My question is, do you guys think I'll lose audio quality by transferring the sound signal through the TV? I'm hoping the transfer is purely pass through and the TV won't try to decode the sound signal. Do you guys have a better suggestion in terms of setting up the system?

This is how I've set up mine and I'm very happy with it.. Although you'll probably need a Optical Audio cable between your BR Player and your receiver. BTW, I am not an expert on this myself, so don't take my work on it
post #1202 of 6171
Just curious - Is anyone using their 58PZ800U with the base stand that comes with TV? If so, does it wobble a little bit? Mine isn't sturdy enough and i wasn't sure if thats because the delivery guys didn't assemble it properly.
post #1203 of 6171
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Originally Posted by cyrus879 View Post

Just curious - Is anyone using their 58PZ800U with the base stand that comes with TV? If so, does it wobble a little bit? Mine isn't sturdy enough and i wasn't sure if thats because the delivery guys didn't assemble it properly.


Mine wobbles a little. I'm not worried about it. screws are tight enough.
post #1204 of 6171
Thanks Kenn157. Good to know I wasn't the only one
post #1205 of 6171
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Originally Posted by cyrus879 View Post

Just curious - Is anyone using their 58PZ800U with the base stand that comes with TV? If so, does it wobble a little bit? Mine isn't sturdy enough and i wasn't sure if thats because the delivery guys didn't assemble it properly.

At first it was a little wobbly, but then my wife realized that the screen needed to be tilted upward while someone else tightens the screws a bit more.
post #1206 of 6171
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Originally Posted by nicholas01 View Post

At first it was a little wobbly, but then my wife realized that the screen needed to be tilted upward while someone else tightens the screws a bit more.

I used the included base stand until I replaced it with a Sanus LA112 automated wall mount. The stand was square and solid. No wobble, no tilt. I have no issues with the stand other than it being a stand and not a wall mount.

Make sure all your blots and screws are used and tight.

I swapped out the base for the Sanus LA112 because the automated wall mount is too cool to pass up - and I wanted to get the HDTV off my low-boy cabinet.

G
post #1207 of 6171
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Originally Posted by hiteshkb View Post

a question for the gurus of AVS...

I'm planning on pulling the trigger on the 58PZ800U in a month or so with a panny BD35. I'm thinking of setting up my environment as follows:

BR Player ---> Panny TV (via HDMI)
Dish HDDVR ----> Panny TV (via HDMI)
Panny TV ---> Onkyo Receiver (via Digital Optical Audio cable)

I want to send all the sound through to my receiver. My question is, do you guys think I'll lose audio quality by transferring the sound signal through the TV? I'm hoping the transfer is purely pass through and the TV won't try to decode the sound signal. Do you guys have a better suggestion in terms of setting up the system?

If you set this up as described, the Panny TV will strip Dolby Digital (DD) encoding from your BD and HDDVR, leaving only stereo audio to be fed to the audio receiver. I tried it, hoping that DD would be passed through also. You really need an audio receiver that can switch multiple HDMI inputs, or alternatively you can feed the receiver with digital audio from each device separately, and manual switch receiver inputs when you switch TV inputs.
post #1208 of 6171
Well, I just got my 58 inch 800zu unboxed and hooked up! I was so excited! I plug it in and turn it on, and now it will not come on. The red light on the front just blinks! I moved it to another outlet and it still doesnt work. Help? Has this happened to anyone? Please help ease my worries!

Thanks

Ricky
post #1209 of 6171
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Originally Posted by risbell View Post

Well, I just got my 58 inch 800zu unboxed and hooked up! I was so excited! I plug it in and turn it on, and now it will not come on. The red light on the front just blinks! I moved it to another outlet and it still doesnt work. Help? Has this happened to anyone? Please help ease my worries!

Thanks

Ricky

Your screwed.
post #1210 of 6171
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Originally Posted by Gerald C View Post

If you set this up as described, the Panny TV will strip Dolby Digital (DD) encoding from your BD and HDDVR, leaving only stereo audio to be fed to the audio receiver. I tried it, hoping that DD would be passed through also. You really need an audio receiver that can switch multiple HDMI inputs, or alternatively you can feed the receiver with digital audio from each device separately, and manual switch receiver inputs when you switch TV inputs.

First of all, hello everyone. I have just finished reading (actually skimming) through all 1209 posts. I am in the market, and am definitely set on the 58PZ800U. Props to all who have contributed to this. I am greatful for all the info here.

Can someone confirm Gerald C's claim? Is this only for Dolby Digital or for all surround sound formats (i.e., 5.1, 7.1, dts, THX)? PS3 with HDMI into the Panny, and optical out from Panny to an audio receiver that can decode the surround sound formats. Shouldn't my audio receiver be able receive the surround sound format? Based on Gerald C's claim, my audio receiver will only be able to output stereo? Then what's the point of having an optical out from the Panny? I really need to know this before purchasing this set.
post #1211 of 6171
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Originally Posted by Amishman View Post

Your screwed.

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That is not very nice! Anyway, after doing some research, it looks like I have gotten bitten by the bad PSC board bug on my Panny. What sucks is that I have never seen anything on it yet. Unbox it, turn it on, and Bam! Nothing. My luck. Anyway, going to call Concierge and see if I can set up a replacement. I read on the internet that Panasonic has a 21 day DOA policy, if it dies within 21 days, they bring out a new one to you. Has anyone had any experience with this?
post #1212 of 6171
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Originally Posted by Airvtec View Post

First of all, hello everyone. I have just finished reading (actually skimming) through all 1209 posts. I am in the market, and am definitely set on the 58PZ800U. Props to all who have contributed to this. I am greatful for all the info here.

Can someone confirm Gerald C's claim? Is this only for Dolby Digital or for all surround sound formats (i.e., 5.1, 7.1, dts, THX)? PS3 with HDMI into the Panny, and optical out from Panny to an audio receiver that can decode the surround sound formats. Shouldn't my audio receiver be able receive the surround sound format? Based on Gerald C's claim, my audio receiver will only be able to output stereo? Then what's the point of having an optical out from the Panny? I really need to know this before purchasing this set.

Confirmed - The optical out only carries the 5.1 coming from the off the air or QAM tuner. It does not take the 5.1 from HDMI inputs and pass it through. If you plug in a DVD player via HDMI, you'll only get stereo out.
post #1213 of 6171
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Originally Posted by Airvtec View Post

First of all, hello everyone. I have just finished reading (actually skimming) through all 1209 posts. I am in the market, and am definitely set on the 58PZ800U. Props to all who have contributed to this. I am greatful for all the info here.

Can someone confirm Gerald C's claim? Is this only for Dolby Digital or for all surround sound formats (i.e., 5.1, 7.1, dts, THX)? PS3 with HDMI into the Panny, and optical out from Panny to an audio receiver that can decode the surround sound formats. Shouldn't my audio receiver be able receive the surround sound format? Based on Gerald C's claim, my audio receiver will only be able to output stereo? Then what's the point of having an optical out from the Panny? I really need to know this before purchasing this set.

Its for all sound formats. Running audio through the optical out on the TV will only pass two channel stereo unless you are using the TV's internal tuner. In other words, you can get 5.1, if its available on the program you are viewing, and you are watching OTA or via the QAM tuner. That's the point of the optical out connection. If your source is a Blu-ray player, DVD player, PS3, STB, etc... you will only get two channel audio sent to your AVR. There are probably exceptions but this pretty much holds true for all TVs.
post #1214 of 6171
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Originally Posted by Buckeye911 View Post

Its for all sound formats. Running audio through the optical out on the TV will only pass two channel stereo unless you are using the TV's internal tuner. In other words, you can get 5.1, if its available on the program you are viewing, and you are watching OTA or via the QAM tuner. That's the point of the optical out connection. If your source is a Blu-ray player, DVD player, PS3, STB, etc... you will only get two channel audio sent to your AVR. There are probably exceptions but this pretty much holds true for all TVs.

Thanks for the confirmation. I was so hoping to be able to get HDMI's surround sound signal directly from Panny's optical out to the audio receiver.
post #1215 of 6171
^ You're quite welcome. Does your AVR not have an HDMI or optical input that you could use to connect from your PS3?
post #1216 of 6171
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Originally Posted by cyrus879 View Post

Just curious - Is anyone using their 58PZ800U with the base stand that comes with TV? If so, does it wobble a little bit? Mine isn't sturdy enough and i wasn't sure if thats because the delivery guys didn't assemble it properly.

My stand is rock solid now. It wasn't initially. I believe the installers fully tightened one screw first - then tightened the rest.

That is the wrong way to do it. You need to very gently "snug" up one screw first, then go to the next screw, etc. Then repeat the process a few times, tightening each screw again a little bit more. Otherwise, if you just tighten one screw first - the rest of the screws won't center properly.
post #1217 of 6171
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Originally Posted by risbell View Post

Well, I just got my 58 inch 800zu unboxed and hooked up! I was so excited! I plug it in and turn it on, and now it will not come on. The red light on the front just blinks! I moved it to another outlet and it still doesnt work. Help? Has this happened to anyone? Please help ease my worries!

Thanks

Ricky

When the LED blinks it is givng you an error code. Call the seller or Panasonic. The number of blinks supposedly tells the service person the nature of the problem.
post #1218 of 6171
Does anyone know why changes in the PZ800U service menu do not get saved? As a check, I dialed down the B-Cut and R-Drive all the way down, but it does not impact the picture after I completely close out of the service menu. I want to calibrate the TV, but I can't until I figure out how to save the settings.
Thanks.
post #1219 of 6171
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Originally Posted by daarrid View Post

My stand is rock solid now. It wasn't initially. I believe the installers fully tightened one screw first - then tightened the rest.

That is the wrong way to do it. You need to very gently "snug" up one screw first, then go to the next screw, etc. Then repeat the process a few times, tightening each screw again a little bit more. Otherwise, if you just tighten one screw first - the rest of the screws won't center properly.

As a general practice, when clamping with multiple bolts, that is the way to do it.

One would expect the "professional installers" would have known.
post #1220 of 6171
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Originally Posted by Buckeye911 View Post

^ You're quite welcome. Does your AVR not have an HDMI or optical input that you could use to connect from your PS3?

thanks for confirming Buckeye! I'm in the same boat. My AVR doesn't have an HDMI interface. I have one digital optical audio input and a bunch of digital coaxial inputs. I guess I'll have to manage with those. They should support 7.1 though right?
post #1221 of 6171
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Originally Posted by hiteshkb View Post

thanks for confirming Buckeye! I'm in the same boat. My AVR doesn't have an HDMI interface. I have one digital optical audio input and a bunch of digital coaxial inputs. I guess I'll have to manage with those. They should support 7.1 though right?

Sorry but no, they will only support up to 5.1. The only ways to get discrete 7.1 are via HDMI or analog connections from source pre-outs. Your PS3 doesn't have pre-outs so you cannot get 7.1 without connecting audio via HDMI.
post #1222 of 6171
I want to connect ps3, cable box, xbox to it. Will it switch to powered input automatically?


Thanks
post #1223 of 6171
As many may be aware I've been collecting owner's settings for this set and then listing them along with CNET's settings.

Here, in an easier to read format, are the recommended settings AVERAGED for the 2008 58" THX Panasonic Plasma (TH-58PZ800U). These settings do NOT apply to any other model.

Note: In most cases I've simply averaged CNETs settings along with those posted by users. However, in a few cases, I've excluded a recommendation from the average that was wildly at odds with everyone else's. At the very least, these settings are a good starting point.


Recommended Picture Settings - Panasonic Plasma TH-58PZ800U - AVERAGED:

THX Settings - AVERAGED (includes CNET and AVS forum members)

Picture: 97
Brightness: 57
Color: 55
Tint: -2
Sharpness: 50
Color Temp: Normal



CUSTOM Settings - AVERAGED (AVS forum members only - CNET did not publish any recommendations)

Picture: 85
Brightness: 50
Color: 36
Tint: -3
Sharpness: 50
Color Temp: Normal


Start with these settings and then experiment. It is very likely these settings will be very close to what you end up preferring.

In all cases have BOTH of Panasonic's noise reduction options turned off as well as the CATS turned off. Also have the black level set to 1.

In my mind, there is nothing more important to enjoying this set than getting the settings right!

Enjoy

Daarrid
post #1224 of 6171
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Originally Posted by Airvtec View Post

Can someone confirm Gerald C's claim?

Just to put a nail in this , the Panasonic manual quotes:

Quote:


When audio from other equipment connected to this unit via HDMI is output using DIGITAL AUDIO OUT of this unit, the system switches to 2CH audio.
post #1225 of 6171
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Originally Posted by czachari View Post

I want to connect ps3, cable box, xbox to it. Will it switch to powered input automatically?

This functionality is only supported with compatible VIERA Link HDAVI Control products.
post #1226 of 6171
Ok everyone... I just pulled the trigger on the TH-58PZ800U. I am upgrading my family room setup from the Panny TH-50PHD7UY that has served me quite well for 5 years.

They didn't have it in stock so I have to wait until Wednesday to pick it up. Hopefully it comes in time for Thanksgiving football. I chose the 58PZ800U because unlike 5 years ago, price is an issue today (wife and baby). It was time to go 1080p and 58-63" is the best size for the space in my family room.
I'll be pairing it with the Panny DMP-BD35 BluRay player.

So here I am watching football on the old faithful and I'm still impressed with it's 720P/1080i picture.

I'm a little concerned going from a Pro model to a Consumer model.

Question:
Is everyone happy here with how their 58PZ800U displays 720p/1080i signals coming via cable/sat? Anyone else here gone from a *PHD7UY to the 58PZ800U?

Sidebar question, anyone hooked up a macbook pro (or other laptop I suppose) via a DVI out into an HDMI in on the TV?

Thanks!
post #1227 of 6171
My wife and I just bought one from hhgreg, got a solid deal and a free blu ray player to boot. We did quite a bit of research, we even considered the new 9 series LCD from Samsung and of course the Pioneer Elite 50. The Samsung catches your eye as soon as you walk into any store so bright, so vivid, its looks like a champ (they had it hooked up to a Blu Ray player running an animated film). As for the Pioneer, they had it hooked up to Direct TV... and it looked crappy. But I knew the Pioneers capabilities and price tag... The Samsung was way up there in price as well... Then we hit the internet and saw all the good things about the this TV's little brother and of course the price point... Long story short, we just could not justify the additonal 1k it would take to get the Samsung or the Pioneer, so after 8 hours of shopping around and going back and forth we got it, they even had 1 in stock... I adjusted the picture settings according to whats in this thread and all I am very impressed. Yes it does not have that "pop" and brightness as the Samsung but the picture quality is stunning. We went from an OLD Mitsu 55" inch square box monster to this TV. I had no idea how much detail we were missing. We watched Wall-E on the Mitsu and then on this TV, man its like a whole new movie. The subtle details is what gets you. For the money, this TV simply cannot be beat. We are quite happy with our purchase, the free blu ray was just a bonus.

Funny thing is we went out shopping for an audio tower... and came home this gem, Merry Christmas
post #1228 of 6171
All- I'm a new owner, and am loving the picture of this set. But I am noticing lip sync problems that I did not have before when using component video connections into an older RP set. It's very slight, but enough to notice, and of course, bother me. My setup is now all HDMI video connections, and I have the problem regardless of whether I'm listening to the set's internal speakers or via optical-out into a AVR. My sources are a Dish 722 and a Phillips DVD. Anyone else experiencing this problem?
post #1229 of 6171
Would it be possible for some of you lucky panny 58pz800 owners to post some screen shots of your tv in action?
post #1230 of 6171
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Originally Posted by Buckeye911 View Post

^ You're quite welcome. Does your AVR not have an HDMI or optical input that you could use to connect from your PS3?

It does, but I was acutally hoping to reduce the amount of wires/cables. Just would have been nice if the optical out from Panny carried over the surround signal from HDMI.

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Originally Posted by Gerald C View Post

Just to put a nail in this , the Panasonic manual quotes:

Thanks for the nail
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