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post #61 of 1093
I notice in a few places that the HT-S9100THX comes with the "HT-R960" receiver, yet I cannot find ANY information on this receiver anywhere, other than the fact that it exists. Onkyo lists it as a registrable product, but it doesn't show up on their site otherwise. I'm wondering if this is a model # from outside the US? If so, does anyone know which US model # it corresponds to? I've spent hours trying to figure this out (why I don't know) and all I have to show for it is eyestrain and a brutal headache. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
post #62 of 1093
so does anyone in the toronto area have this? Where can I find this thing and how much is this going for?
post #63 of 1093
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Originally Posted by keith1229 View Post

I notice in a few places that the HT-S9100THX comes with the "HT-R960" receiver, yet I cannot find ANY information on this receiver anywhere, other than the fact that it exists. Onkyo lists it as a registrable product, but it doesn't show up on their site otherwise. I'm wondering if this is a model # from outside the US? If so, does anyone know which US model # it corresponds to? I've spent hours trying to figure this out (why I don't know) and all I have to show for it is eyestrain and a brutal headache. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

it's a specific model included only with the 9100thx
post #64 of 1093
xxxm....Im from Toronto, and I bought this HTIB from Sonic Boom (electronicsforless). They are located in Markham, and are an authorized Onkyo Canadian dealer. Go to onkyo.ca and do the search for onkyo dealers. You will find the contact info you need.
post #65 of 1093
Thanks Midnight. That makes sense I had tried to match up it's specs with the 706 + 806 and it seemed to fall somewhere between those two. Guess that's why.
BTW if anyone cares, the 706 is on sale for a remarkable $540 on Amazon, which is like $100 less than anywhere else I could find it. I just wish I could justify buying it and still pay my rent.
post #66 of 1093
Hey guys,

For those with a PS3, what listening mode are you using when you are playing games?

Thanks
post #67 of 1093
so how much should i expect to pay for this? in canadian dollars that is...
post #68 of 1093
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Originally Posted by keith1229 View Post

Thanks Midnight. That makes sense I had tried to match up it's specs with the 706 + 806 and it seemed to fall somewhere between those two. Guess that's why.
BTW if anyone cares, the 706 is on sale for a remarkable $540 on Amazon, which is like $100 less than anywhere else I could find it. I just wish I could justify buying it and still pay my rent.

By the looking at the pics on the Onkyo website that show the back of the receiver, I'd say its closer to the 606 than the 706 or 806. Its doesn't have any preouts except for the subwoofer and the physical dimensions are the same as the 606. Same size and weight. Its probably a 606 with a couple extra features.


Good price on the 706 at Amazon.
post #69 of 1093
Just got my HT-S9100THX yesterday. I ordered it from electronicsforless.ca and it showed up rather quickly.

I'm still waiting for my HDMI cables from Monoprice, they should be here this week. Without the benefit of HDMI, my first impression of this system is very good. It's very loud, and crystal clear at all levels. I have no complaints.

I originally wanted to go more high-end. I started looking at the TX-SR806 or maybe the TX-SR876 receiver coupled with Axiom Epic Grand Master - 500 series. This would have cost about 4.5 times the money, and might very well have been worth it, but I couldn't resist the bang-for-the-buck of this system.

The only complaint I can come up with is the size of these speakers (while crystal clear and more than loud enough) don't offer the displacement that a larger speaker can offer. With the tunes cranked I don't find that "pound-in-your-chest" feeling that a larger speaker can offer. For literally a fraction of the price though, I will easily do without this.

I will be adding an HD FTA, and HTPC, and a Blu-ray to this setup in the upcoming weeks or months, and I will post any differences I find with the addition of HDMI cables as soon as they show up next week.
post #70 of 1093
Just bought this on newegg for $899 free shipping, cant wait to hear how it sounds.

[Edit] ****, i forgot to order all the cables to go with it...

Question: If i plug a DVD player into the unit VIA component cables, will the HDMI out on the receiver transfer the component video? Or will i need an HDMI DVD player?
Thinking about getting another PS3 to use as a media server / DVD player for the room... Will probably just do that...


Oh and if anyone wants to know where i buy my cables, I use Firefold.com Very cheap cables, got a VGA and HDMI cables there for less than 75 cents a foot, and they work great.
post #71 of 1093
Does anyone know how to get rid of the faint humming/buzzing sound from the subwoofer? Its not a huge issue. Perhaps some of you are experiencing this? (Im using the cheap cable that came with the system)
post #72 of 1093
I'm thinking of getting this system. Does anyone have pictures you could post after you have it set up?
post #73 of 1093
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Originally Posted by JDub_41 View Post

Does anyone know how to get rid of the faint humming/buzzing sound from the subwoofer? Its not a huge issue. Perhaps some of you are experiencing this? (Im using the cheap cable that came with the system)

I'm using the cable that came with the system too and I have no humming/buzzing at all.
I know this doesn't help you at all, but I just don't want other people thinking this happens with all of them.
post #74 of 1093
I purchased this set and I'm picking it up tomorrow. But I wonder if it will fit in my car. How big is the box? Is it one big box or several smaller boxes?

Thanks
post #75 of 1093
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Originally Posted by SirValkyr View Post

I purchased this set and I'm picking it up tomorrow. But I wonder if it will fit in my car. How big is the box? Is it one big box or several smaller boxes?
Thanks

I havnt been home yet to see it, but my mother accepted delivery and said it was just one big box. 140lbs weight on the invoice.

What kind of car do you have? SUV / minivan would be ideal. Probably wont fit on your back seats even if folded.
post #76 of 1093
I have a VW Passat. Alternatively I can borrow a van from a friend, but using my own car would be more convenient of course.
post #77 of 1093
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Originally Posted by JDub_41 View Post

Does anyone know how to get rid of the faint humming/buzzing sound from the subwoofer? Its not a huge issue. Perhaps some of you are experiencing this? (Im using the cheap cable that came with the system)

It sounds like you are having a ground loop problem. If you have an extension cord laying around try plugging the receiver/sub into another outlet. It's really all about the power just not being properly grounded. It sucks if you're in an apartment complex or something just because you can't do much about it.
post #78 of 1093
http://whathifi.com/Review/Onkyo-HT-S9100THX/

Here is a review if anyone is interested in reading it.
post #79 of 1093
thanks Aaron......

Will the sub get damaged if I can't fix?
post #80 of 1093
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Originally Posted by HDTVRookie View Post

http://whathifi.com/Review/Onkyo-HT-S9100THX/

Here is a review if anyone is interested in reading it.

I don't disagree with anything said in that review, however, they were really harsh. They should have been a lot more objective.

Also, they were talking about the DVD player that comes with it. This system doesn't come with a DVD player. I have to almost wonder if they tested the right system.
post #81 of 1093
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Originally Posted by 6.6diesel View Post

I don't disagree with anything said in that review, however, they were really harsh. They should have been a lot more objective.

Also, they were talking about the DVD player that comes with it. This system doesn't come with a DVD player. I have to almost wonder if they tested the right system.

I think that review website is UK or CA based as they referred to the cost in non US currency. Which may explain why the system had a DVD player. I also felt they were being extremely harsh on the system as price to performance its almost unbeatable.
post #82 of 1093
While the review was harsh, its basically saying the speakers aren't that good. This is pretty common in HTiB systems, especially Onkyo. We all know their receivers are pretty good and give good bang for the buck, but they have to cut corners somewhere in order to make an affordable package and in this case its the speakers and subwoofer.

The receiver is pretty much an Onkyo 606 with a couple of extras so just get the 606 for $350 and add different speakers for another $400-$500 or so.
post #83 of 1093
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

While the review was harsh, its basically saying the speakers aren't that good. This is pretty common in HTiB systems, especially Onkyo. We all know their receivers are pretty good and give good bang for the buck, but they have to cut corners somewhere in order to make an affordable package and in this case its the speakers and subwoofer.

The receiver is pretty much an Onkyo 606 with a couple of extras so just get the 606 for $350 and add different speakers for another $400-$500 or so.

The 606 is only 90w/ch, vs 135w/ch.
The 606 is not THX Certified.
I don't see anywhere that says the 606 has GUI, which is a huge convenience.
That's just what I could spot at a glance. I don't think you can really compare these two receivers.
I'm not going to try and tell anyone these are great speakers, but they are a huge step forward for what we've come to expect from HTIB systems in the past.
post #84 of 1093
According to the Onkyo EU site, this system doesn't come with a DVD player there either. I'm still a bit confused by what they were talking about in the review.

http://www.eu.onkyo.com/products/pro...8_6927341.html
post #85 of 1093
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Originally Posted by 6.6diesel View Post

The 606 is only 90w/ch, vs 135w/ch.
The 606 is not THX Certified.
I don't see anywhere that says the 606 has GUI, which is a huge convenience.
That's just what I could spot at a glance. I don't think you can really compare these two receivers.
I'm not going to try and tell anyone these are great speakers, but they are a huge step forward for what we've come to expect from HTIB systems in the past.

Look how they rated the power, 130 W/Channel (8 ohms, 1 kHz, FTC) . That's not how you measure power in a receiver. It should be 2 channels across the 20hz-20khz frequency spectrum. The rating on the 606 is much more honest.

When you want to sell a HTIB unit and make it seem more powerful, you measure it at the lone 1hz frequency. Those receivers have the same power, trust me.

Look at the specs for the 7100 and 6100 system. Receiver on both has 130w/channel just like the 9100. Then look at the photo gallery. You can clearly see its the Onkyo 606 receiver. I've seen these two systems (6100 and 7100) in person and can verify they use the 606 receiver. Now look in the receiver only section on the Onkyo site and find the Onkyo 606 receiver. All of a sudden its rated at 90watts but measured differently.

Onkyo 7100 system specs, same power as the 9100.
http://onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=HT-S...ss=Systems&p=s

So what's the deal? Its the way they measure HTIB systems vs standalone receivers. Different target market, different specs.

Like I said before the HTR-960 is just a rebadged 606 with a THX certification and maybe an extra feature or two.

The 606 definitely has on screen menus. The manual can be downloaded right here.
http://63.148.251.135/redirect_servi..._En_A_Rev1.pdf

The 9100 system manual can be downloaded here.
http://63.148.251.135/redirect_servi...9100THX_En.pdf

Notice the receiver instructions are the same as the 606 and the on screen menu is exactly the same.
post #86 of 1093
Maybe someone can take photo's of this system and put them here? It would be nice to see real size of speakers and box. Please
post #87 of 1093
How would this system be expected perform in a room (LxWxH) 14x26x10? It's a living room and I guess kind of large, open to a kitchen of about 10X20.

My other option would be in a bedroom of 10x12x10... from one extreme to the next.

All opinions and recommendations are much appreciated.
post #88 of 1093
@ Musicman15,
I have a similar setup in my living room running the long way and it works well.
At first out of the box the sound was worrisome. After setup and some tweaking I'm definitely $999 happy.
Peace and good luck,
Tim (PwrLoon)
post #89 of 1093
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Originally Posted by JDub_41 View Post

thanks Aaron......

Will the sub get damaged if I can't fix?

Over time, yes it will.
There are several possible issues most of which are power related. Are your connector or speaker cables or sub cable near power? Can you move them or the setup? The power running to the Onkyo may be "dirty" and need to be conditioned. Or their may be a fault in the way it was setup. Perhaps a connection that is slightly loose...
post #90 of 1093
pwrloon..

my sub cable is running along the speaker wire to the reciever. My sub is connected to an extension cord and then plugged into an outlet....

The faint buzz sound is on and off....When you turn up the volume the buzz sound does get a little louder...However, it's very faint and does not hamper the sound experience..

None of the connections are loose, but what do you mean by "Are your connector or speaker cables or sub cable near power?

I have the sub into one outlet via an extension cord, and my TV, PS3, amp into a different outlet...
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