"Official" Denon AVR 2809CI/989 Thread - Page 92

When my 2809CI arrives I may sell it and buy the 3310CI

When the 2010 models hit, my work here will be done and I plan to sail off to the Undying Lands with Frodo, Gandalf, and the elves.....














oh wait, too much LOTR. Trust me, I have enough free time to monitor another thread or three Hopefully Denon will keep their horrendous manuals and menu interfaces the same so as not to obsolete my website!

You can also bi-wire the front's and not have to use you back surround amps (b-amp). I have the same fron type speakers and I bought some 4 conductor speaker wire and bi-wired the fronts.

Interesting choice. You can find a lot of weird stuff on this topic, but most say biwiring does not offer any advantage over using a single set of properly gauged 2 conductor speaker wire. What is your Ga/length and have you tried to disconnect the extra pair of wires to see if you hear any difference?

I'm using a decent quality 2 conductor 12 ga speaker wire for <8' runs on the fronts (RT800i towers, CS 400 Center) These are all "biampable" speakers and on the PolkAudio forums some guys recommend removing the stock conductor plate jumper and replacing it with hefty wire such as mine. This makes no sense to me so i haven't taken the trouble to try it. As the opinions I have read on the passive biwire technique using the surround backs are very inconsistent, I have not taken the much greater trouble to try that out either.

SoM - the only reason he suggested bi-wiring was that the OP was missing the "jumpers" which connect the binding posts. I don't think he was implying that it will actually improve performance in any way, it was just an alternate solution for a speaker w/ four binding posts if you are missing the jumpers...

Right, I understand and am sincerely just asking for more info out of curiosity.

gotcha, just checkin' can't help it, I'm pedantic!

And we love ya' for it!

So far I've tried this with no luck.

1) comcast -> DVI to HDMI cable -> 2809 -> hdmi -> TV --- picture flashed on TV and then went to blank. I found reports the 2809 doesn't handshake with DVI.

2) comcast -> optical -> 2809 for audio. comcast -> component -> 2809 -> hdmi -> TV. I assigned appropriate selection in Input.

I got sound in the receiver but no signal found on TV

3) same as #2 but: 2809 -> component -> TV. I specified input of no hdmi, RCA #3.

Still no signal found on TV


I've tested the component cables to make sure they work and that there is a good signal coming out of the comcast component plugs.




Sorry I haven't been able to find an answer using search even though it seemed like it would be there.

Try RCA #1 as that's most likely where you have the component plugged in to.

Thanks, but I have a WII connected to component 1. I have the comcast box connected to component set 3.

Most importantly, are you confirming that using component cables in and components cables out is the right approach for a Comcast DVI HD box?

DVI/HDMI has caused problems for others connecting to the Denon so using component and optical or RCA generally solves that problem. Although you should be able to use HDMI out to the TV. It's just the DVI/HDMI issue that the Denon sometimes has problems with getting to work right. Keep in mind though that if you are passing 1080p via the Comcast box (Movies on Demand) then you MUST use a component OUT as well.

I don't have to do anything special to make the signal output on component in addition to HDMI do I? I'm assuming the 2809 sends the video signal out on anything that's connected.

Oh, you must do something special indeed, as mere mortals must input component to output component. See Video Conversion graphic on p9 of the manual.

I'm not sure why, but it started working using component output now. I still need to get a comcast hdmi box, but from what I understand you have to wait in a long line only to take a chance on whether they have one in stock.

Ok I still cant get the Blue HD logo to fire up.

I am connected to HDMI from my PC, PC has a HDMI passthough card to my Receiver, when I select Multi channel in, I set Movie to True HD I get 5.1 sound but AL24 is on and No HD light on receiver.

When I select Digital in I get 5.1 Digital sound, but when I change track to True HD I get 2 channel stereo converted to 5.1 at the receiver end.

What am I doing wrong, thanks in advance.

Well my Polk RM30's came with the jumpers but I decided to bi-wire anyway. Did not even test them with the jumpers. I guess this was because I tried jumpers a couple of years ago with my center speaker (CS5i) and was not happy with sound quality but after bi-wiring a big improvement. I am just using 16AWG 4 conductor. Added banana jacks on the amp end and hard wired on speaker end. Sounds good and I am happy. I have read many articles that the bi-wire approach is marginal improvement (at best) but speakers came that way so I took the "purist" approach. Certainly would not specifically buy speakers that could be bi-wired as I feel this is more marketing approach or maybe for high end (to be bi-amped).

I don't know much about HTCP and you may have already done so. But do you have the latest Asus Xonar driver? Forgive me if I'm wrong.

Yes

Guys another question sorry.
With HDMI to HDMI Connected to a Sony Bravia, I only watch Digital TV and DVD and BR disks, should I enable video conversion on the Receiver for a better picture, or leave it disabled for my TV to deal with? what seems to be the best.

Rev, looks like you should spend some (more?) time with batpig's guide. HDMI is untouched so your TV will do what it should. Getting the Blue HD light on is a source problem, you need to bitstream into the Denon.

Interesting. Thanks.

I began installing my 2809 today and temporarily have to run tv audio through the tv speaker. Following the instructions, I switched the HDMI Audio Out from "Amp" to "TV". Video through put is fine. However, I do not get any audio when the receiver is "on". The audio, however, comes out when the receiver is on stand-by.

Is the function working correctly? Or should audio come through in both instances?

Thanks in advance.

If you're using HDMI from cable box, DVD, etc to AVR then out to TV via HDMI then audio should come thru when the receiver is "on" when HDMI Audio Out is set to "TV". Is that how it's hooked up? If so, I am not sure what's wrong but check the sound settings in your TV &/or try switching the AVR HDMI Control (it follows HDMI Audio Out in HDMI Setup) because "if HDMI Control is ON, the settings in the TV take priority".

I have a Denon DVD-2500BTCI BluRay player that I cannot get the HD Audio light to illuminate on my 2809ci. The DVD player shows "Dolby TrueHD Mulit-ch" output with no secondary. Is there a setting that I'm missing as I've tried many different settings on the AVR to no avail? Current movie Spider-Man 3 with Dolby TrueHD. I too seem to be stuck with Multi CH IN, but I'm not using a PS3. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

SoundofMind,

Thanks, per your suggestion I checked my TV settings and found the issue. The tv automatically defaults to the receiver for audio when it gets a signal that the receiver is on via HDMI connection. Once I manually switch back to tv for audio on the display everything worked. It's just an annoyance now b/c the tv will default back to the receiver when I turn off/on the receiver.

Well I should be bitstreaming, My Xonar 1.3 card is set to HDMI , my HTPC is set to digital out, My player is set to HDMI passthrough, Dolby Digital works, DTS works, but True HD doesnt work only in 2 channel.

This is weird.

I can get LPCM working.

By focusing on bitstream at the Blu-Ray player, I was able to get this working.

Settings under Audio:
BD Audio Mode = HD Audio Output
->Output only the primary audio (audio will be output in bitstream)

HDMI Audio OUt = HDMI Multi(Normal)
->multi-channel audio signals are output from the HDMI OUT with a bitstream or LPCM

I am currently connecting my 2809ci to my Samsung 58a760 via HDMI. I have my Cablevision HD DVR connected to my 2809ci via Component cable.

I have my 2809ci set to "full" on the menu set-up, however my TV shows black bars on all 4:3 programming. I can't seem to fix this on my Samsung as a default setting either. I have to manually stretch the TV. Before connecting to my 2809ci ... I had the 58a760 set to "just" mode and it worked flawlessly on non 16:9 content. Once I connected everything to the 2809ci it stopped working and i have bars on 4:3 content.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks in advance.

This is yet another example of why my mantra in these situations is "IT'S THE SOURCE!!"

Other than putting the receiver on "AUTO" for Input Mode, there are no settings on the receiver that can affect this! The receiver will decode what you give it, it cannot tell your Blu Ray player or DVD player or whatever what audio track to send. (not picking on you wadek, just pointing it out again for the "lurkers" )

So in any of these situations -- your Xbox 360 isn't giving 5.1 DD, your Blu Ray player isn't lighting up "True HD", your cable box will only output stereo, etc. CHECK YOUR SOURCE and make sure the audio settings are correct!